deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, percydanvers said: Hungary vs Romania could be interesting because there was the possibility for dogfights between 109s and 109s. I don't believe it actually happened in history, but that was more of a case that it just didn't happen to happen rather than it couldn't happen. Courland Pocket would be really, really interesting, but it might be kind of tough. As I understand it the only Luftwaffe presence was just I. II. and IV. gruppen of JG 54 all flying various Fw-190As, so not a lot of chance for variety in the planeset. Plus it's not really something "new" ether.
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, percydanvers said: Hungary vs Romania could be interesting because there was the possibility for dogfights between 109s and 109s. I don't believe it actually happened in history, but that was more of a case that it just didn't happen to happen rather than it couldn't happen. Courland Pocket would be really, really interesting, but it might be kind of tough. As I understand it the only Luftwaffe presence was just I. II. and IV. gruppen of JG 54 all flying various Fw-190As, so not a lot of chance for variety in the planeset. Didn't Swiss 109s shoot down German 109s at some point? As for Courland, after re-reading the developer comment I posted, I think new pilots might eliminate that possibility, besides the reasons you mentioned.
Dennis_Nedry Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Now I'm leaning CBI, specifically China. Operation Ichi-Go 19 April – 31 December 1944. Tencent, a Chinese company, bought 1C so maybe they are influencing that decision. Edited November 9, 2022 by Dennis_Nedry
ROCKET_KNUT Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said: Bielefeld? Doesn't exist. At all. Everybody knows that. ? 1
percydanvers Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, oc2209 said: Didn't Swiss 109s shoot down German 109s at some point? As for Courland, after re-reading the developer comment I posted, I think new pilots might eliminate that possibility, besides the reasons you mentioned. I've heard it happened, but I haven't actually ever come across the details. Courland is one of those things I really wish could fit the BoX model because I think the terrain would be really cool and it's one of my own favorite stories - this lone fighter wing essentially doing the work of an entire luftflotte and somehow managing to keep the fight alive against utterly impossible odds.
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 While some people are still holding out hope for mainland Asia, I take the devs' earlier statement of 'the next module won't be Pacific' to include the entire region. Obviously I could be wrong, but that seems like they'd be splitting hairs. Same as Sicily versus 'no Italy.'
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 After Enigmas video with devs it was clear it cant be PTO, after this stream its clear it cant be Italy(i count Sicily in that). All i know at this point is that when they do anounce what it is i will be wondering how it was not obvious that they selected that DLC. ? 1
Dennis_Nedry Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, oc2209 said: While some people are still holding out hope for mainland Asia, I take the devs' earlier statement of 'the next module won't be Pacific' to include the entire region. Obviously I could be wrong, but that seems like they'd be splitting hairs. Same as Sicily versus 'no Italy.' I think a lot of people and sources consider CBI separate from the Pacific even though they are related. The Chinese Air Force also flew a lot of interesting aircraft from other nations in addition to the USAAF. I know Jason was always hesitant to move forward with Japanese aircraft because lack of documentation outside of a few aircraft like the Zero but maybe the team is ready to try it with the IJAAF. Also, remember Tencent bought 1C so maybe that is having an influence as well. Its also something that hasn't been done before. and this Ki-48 is in Moscow ? Edited November 9, 2022 by Dennis_Nedry 2
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dennis_Nedry said: I know Jason was always hesitant to move forward with Japanese aircraft because lack of documentation outside of a few aircraft like the Zero but maybe the team is ready to try it with the IJAAF. I can understand that in some ways but it's bad for business. Especially the guys over at team fusion are doing BOB, BOF and may enter the med later on with the release of Tobruk. There's not many places left to do without going into the pacific.
Hien-0_1* Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Karelian Front (FAF vs VVS) - Brewster B-239, Hawk 75, Fokker D.XXI, Fiat G.50, Morane-Saulnier 406/410 - Polikarpov I-15, Polikarpov I-153, Petlyakov Pe-3, Sukhoi Su-2, Tupolev SB-2
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Also in video when they were saying why not Italy (46min) , why it cant be, as other examples they would like to do but cant, with italy they mentioned africa, malta, and even balaton. So highly dout they are also on table for next DLC.
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dennis_Nedry said: and this Ki-48 is in Moscow ? Whatever happens... Let's hope we get better camo jobs than this one.
BladeMeister Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Now What? Oh wait, that's the other thread. They did a good job with the format and presentation, but they didn't really announce anything accept the graphical and physics upgrade? Or is that a completely new engine being readied for the next announcement after the still unannounced module to follow Normandy? They pretty much danced around the questions and were very vague and even laughed off some of them. Sorry, but I was underwhelmed by the information given. One thing that struck me, I always tend to be concerned when someone tells me 'don't worry' like 8 times in just a couple of minutes. This made me think of the comment made in the early access written announcement for BOS that said, "don't worry, we know how to make what hard core flight simmers want!" Then we got the 'points grinding' BOS. It is what it is, but I hope they make a true and fully disclosing announcement of what, where and which planes will be in the next project before the end of the year. I know, "Don't Worry Guys, Yes! Edit: Oh and late war eastern front, here we come! S!Blade<>< Edited November 9, 2022 by BladeMeister 3
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hien-0_1* said: Karelian Front (FAF vs VVS) - Brewster B-239, Hawk 75, Fokker D.XXI, Fiat G.50, Morane-Saulnier 406/410 - Polikarpov I-15, Polikarpov I-153, Petlyakov Pe-3, Sukhoi Su-2, Tupolev SB-2 A possibility
Robli Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, CountZero said: Also in video when they were saying why not Italy What did they say about it then?
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Robli said: What did they say about it then? to urban , to many streats, roads, and so on... they cant make it realistic and have fps for combat over its map Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, Robli said: What did they say about it then? Cities--especially Rome--are too demanding both on game performance and on resources to make them. Same reason they've avoided London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, etc. This is why, whereas Italy is definitely off the table, I'm not totally convinced Sicily is.
Hien-0_1* Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 an old source / was very quickly deleted from the forum 1
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hotaru_Ito said: Cities--especially Rome--are too demanding both on game performance and on resources to make them. Same reason they've avoided London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, etc. This is why, whereas Italy is definitely off the table, I'm not totally convinced Sicily is. Thats why i re-lisen to that part , and as example of what is not douable like Italy he says Malta, so if they consider Malta as not douable then why do Sicily also. Lisen to video from 46min and youll here that next DLC is not planed to be Africa, Italy, Malta and Balaton, as he listed thouse as examples. Here: 7 minutes ago, deathmisser said: A possibility Its build by player moders group, but nothing about when or if it will be added Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero
I.JG3_CDRSEABEE Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, CountZero said: Thats why i re-lisen to that part , and as example of what is not douable like Italy he says Malta, so if they consider Malta as not douable then why do Sicily also. Lisen to video from 46min and youll here that next DLC is not planed to be Africa, Italy, Malta and Balaton, as he listed thouse as examples. Its build by player moders group, but nothing about when or if it will be added I am guessing Solomons/New Guinea. Didnt they say the next one was going to setup the Pacific??
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hien-0_1* said: an old source / was very quickly deleted from the forum That area has small cities part from Lens and Lille. But is that area covered by BON and BOBP ?
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, CountZero said: Thats why i re-lisen to that part , and as example of what is not douable like Italy he says Malta, so if they consider Malta as not douable then why do Sicily also. Lisen to video from 46min and youll here that next DLC is not planed to be Africa, Italy, Malta and Balaton, as he listed thouse as examples. You're right, he definitely rules out those four--I missed the specific mention of Malta, which does seem to exclude Sicily as well. Not that I'm complaining, since I'm still rooting for Burma.
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CDRSEABEE said: I am guessing Solomons/New Guinea. Didnt they say the next one was going to setup the Pacific?? I would pick them before Burma or any other Asian ground war area, but i think Solomons/New Guinea fit under PTO, Like Sicily would fit under Italy. Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero
Dennis_Nedry Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, CountZero said: I would pick them before Burma or any other Asian war area, but i think Solomons/New Guinea fit under PTO, Like Sicily would fit under Italy. If its CBI I am heavily leaning towards the C.
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, Dennis_Nedry said: If its CBI I am heavily leaning towards the C. but what is CBI ? ?
Dennis_Nedry Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, CountZero said: but what is CBI ? ? China-Burma-India
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, Dennis_Nedry said: China-Burma-India i know , i just tought i didnt have to worry about it as it was 100% Sicily 43 ? 1
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 @Hien-0_1* I just had a look and that area was covered by the BON module.
Robli Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, deathmisser said: @Hien-0_1* I just had a look and that area was covered by the BON module. I think he is referring to Karelia. 1
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Robli said: I think he is referring to Karelia. I thought it was Arras but your might be right.
Deicide Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 As long as it's not another Russian front I don't care. Just no more Russian fronts.
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Deicide said: As long as it's not another Russian front I don't care. Just no more Russian fronts. Here here. Yea we have three modules and a mini one if you count the lend lease stuff with missions.
Gambit21 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, CDRSEABEE said: I am guessing Solomons/New Guinea. Didnt they say the next one was going to setup the Pacific?? Ummm…the Solomons are in the South Pacific. My favorite - but it’s PTO.
ww2fighter20 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Could it be East Prussia/Courland? Soviets used IL4 and A20G with Torpedo's. Germans used Ar196 from seaplane bases and even launched from ships. These 2 things can be considered new. Not many cities and largest cities (Koningsberg/Danzig/Riga) are around size of Rheinland/Normandy cities. Most if not all late war soviet aircraft were used there like Yak3/La7/IL10/Tu2/P39Q/A20G. Enough german aircraft to fill 5 slots (Bf109G10/Bf109G14AS/Fw190A9/Ar196/Ju87D5/Hs129B3). Career could be from summer 1944 till end of war. They might need new pilot uniforms for late war VVS pilots/Normandy-Niemen. Edited November 9, 2022 by ww2fighter20
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, ww2fighter20 said: Could it be East Prussia/Courland? Reposting this again, since my last time was a page bottom: Quote Fourth, we have already started the creation of the technical design documents for the new aircraft and one of these aircraft is already in development. The work on new pilots models is already underway. The pre-production of the new map has started - our designers are doing various research on the new area. This work is very extensive and complex because the chosen theatre of war is very interesting and visually appealing. But the reference documents and materials are not easy to come by. In fact, as it was before in our team experience, it looks like we'll not only create a new memorable realistic combat sim, but make a contribution to the history as a science by uncovering new data. At the very least we'll do our part in refreshing the public memory of these events. I don't imagine that the Courland area would be described as 'visually appealing.' I mean, it could be, since I've never been there. But I imagine it as looking kind of like a mostly flat area with tons of small lakes and such. I would assume the mountains of Hungary/Romania would be much more easily described as 'visually appealing.' Since we have only one other mountainous map, Kuban, and it's not really that mountain-y, but more like some pretty high hills--the Carpathian mountains could definitely constitute a 'complex' area besides being a beautiful area.
Dennis_Nedry Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, oc2209 said: Reposting this again, since my last time was a page bottom: I don't imagine that the Courland area would be described as 'visually appealing.' I mean, it could be, since I've never been there. But I imagine it as looking kind of like a mostly flat area with tons of small lakes and such. I would assume the mountains of Hungary/Romania would be much more easily described as 'visually appealing.' Since we have only one other mountainous map, Kuban, and it's not really that mountain-y, but more like some pretty high hills--the Carpathian mountains could definitely constitute a 'complex' area besides being a beautiful area. It’s gonna be China
itsmecamille Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) I would hate it to be Courland or Finland to be honest. I'd still buy it to support the effort towards the PTO but would have little interest in it. So at this stage I guess all I can do is cross fingers for CBI Edited November 10, 2022 by ptisinge
CountZero Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Dennis_Nedry said: It’s gonna be China And Russians piloting MiG-15s from China bases, over desert like, no roads, bridges buildings left standing and hilly land of N.Korea 1953. Edited November 10, 2022 by CountZero
I.JG3_CDRSEABEE Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Gambit21 said: Ummm…the Solomons are in the South Pacific. My favorite - but it’s PTO. Yeah. But it's not carriers. Anyway they said they have started working on the next one so why not announce it while everyone was watching.
zan64 Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 after seeing that finland map screenshot, kraelia or however its spelled im calling not winter war but continuation war RAF, Germans, Finns, Soviets, late, mid early war timeframes, late war soviet, plenty of opportunity for collector planes thanks to finland's diverse inventory
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