LeLv30_Redwing- Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said: Well, it's got to be North Africa then. No other options so far as I can see. Can't be Europe or Russia as it's somewhere new. Confirmed as not the Pacific or Italy. No cities, which rules out many places. Where else could it be? Somewhere with a lot of forest and lakes? 1
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, CountZero said: Well after this last stream im converted it could even be Korea lol Quote Quote: The direction of the graphics engine improvement we have chosen is massive and fundamental, requiring some new approaches to the content creation routines - therefore they affect not only our programmers but all our artists as well. As a result we'll have a new level of objects and environment quality. Quote By the time it is released, the player's hardware, competitors' tech and game industry standards will be more advanced and we have to keep our place in the vanguard of the industry and the genre. Doesnt sound like they will backfit that into BoM, BoS, BoK, BoBP and BoN. That will be a new singular game without backwards compatibility, so theatre could as well be Barbarossa / Smolensk or anything else you see fit.
DragonDaddy Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said: Even I don't have a clue what the next module is, so it is being kept a tight secret at the moment. I'm as curious as the rest of you and will probably find out a hour before you do. I’m not certain this is a good way to mange expectations and retain/grow your player base. I feel like not only do you (Wardog) not have a clue what is next, but perhaps the team doesn’t either. This presentation was a great opportunity for the franchise to connect and excite the players. I don’t believe it was successful. Jason may be more missed than ever! 2 1 1
migmadmarine Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I'm still holding out hope for Sicily since it potentially avoids the sprawl of Rome issue, and would account for new crew models with an all Italian axis lineup, but that may be grasping at straws. Maybe they will lean on the implementation of Romania with the IAR and choose a theater with a lot of their presence?
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, sevenless said: Doesnt sound like they will backfit that into BoM, BoS, BoK, BoBP and BoN. That will be a new singular game without backwards compatibility, so theatre could as well be Barbarossa / Smolensk or anything else you see fit. To me that just sound like when they tell me why i need to replace my iphone 12 with version 13, i dont think they plan to just abandon what we have now and start it again in new game engine. 1
kendo Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said: All that buildup and no announcement on the next module.... no major announcements at all really. We're working on collector planes... and "something new" .... Thanks, I guess.... What? Work on a new engine is not a major announcement?
Gambit21 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said: Kinda like this job at the moment. ? lol You know what you need to know marine - and that ain’t much. 3
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, jusuhuh said: Gulf of Finland, anyone? If Italy is to urban what do you do with Leningrad ? also group of players are suposed to be making map or it, but its all so top secret that we dont have any word on progress.
DBFlyguy Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, kendo said: What? Work on a new engine is not a major announcement? They've always been adapting the engine, they've said this multiple times, including in the engima interview, they aren't throwing out everything and starting from scratch, so no, it's not a major announcement. Edited November 9, 2022 by DBFlyguy
Wardog5711 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: You know what you need to know marine - and that ain’t much. Exactly. If I am kidnapped and tortured by anxious forum members, I can't give up any secrets. 1 2
percydanvers Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Chief_Mouser said: So, a new sim, no more Box is how I read it, and that then could be absolutely anywhere. Really not excited about this. Back to zero and another decade of gradually reintroducing different variants of spitfires and 109s in a slightly shinier graphical package ? Honestly my biggest excitement for the series was that we'd start to get into some of the obscure aircraft you don't get to fly anywhere else. Edited November 9, 2022 by percydanvers
DBFlyguy Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Live stream thoughts aside.... Those models you had in the background @Wardog5711 Very Cool! what scale are those?
DragonDaddy Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, kendo said: What? Work on a new engine is not a major announcement? But they didn’t actually announce a new engine. They didn’t actually announce anything concrete except that good things are coming sometime.
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) So with the next step of the module series they are working on are. A. Swimming pilots B. No carries C. Needs lot of resourses D. it's not Italy E. It's something new F. Piston engine themed G. Little to no cities H. Not in the Pacific Anything else I'm missing here ? Edited November 9, 2022 by deathmisser
JG4_Moltke1871 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, deathmisser said: G. Little to no cities Bielefeld? 5
Chief_Mouser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, DragonDaddy said: They didn’t actually announce anything concrete... ...except for the things that weren't going to make it into BoX - improved radio chatter, drop tanks and fuel management, non-drowning pilots, Italy, cities, flyable B-25 or B-26, etc. 1
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said: Bielefeld? Nah It can't be Germany or Europe as it's full of cities.
Gambit21 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, DragonDaddy said: … good things are coming sometime. I trust them on this. I was hoping for more today, but I’m in a positive state of mind on the future of the product. ??
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chief_Mouser said: ...except for the things that weren't going to make it into BoX - improved radio chatter, drop tanks and fuel management, non-drowning pilots, Italy, cities, flyable B-25 or B-26, etc. hey atleast they didnt say anything about unlocks ?
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said: Bielefeld? ROFL!
Wardog5711 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said: hose models you had in the background @Wardog5711 Very Cool! what scale are those? Those are two of my 10 remaining RC ship models. The carrier in the back is the CV-14, USS Ticonderoga in 1/144 scale. The model is right at 6' long, and weighs 30 pounds with batteries. The cruiser on the other shelf is CL-50, USS Helena in 1/96 scale. Pretty much the same dimensions and weight as the carrier. And no, them being visible in my office is in no way a hint or clue about the next module! I have four carriers and only two of them are in Pacific schemes. All of them were built in the 1990's and just happened to be my favorite modeling subject back then. ? 1
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said: And no, them being visible in my office is in no way a hint or clue about the next module! I Direct denial is always a confirmation of the next module. So Pacific with carrier ops confirmed ?
Wardog5711 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, sevenless said: Direct denial is always a confirmation of the next module. So Pacific with carrier ops confirmed ? I wish. I have deliberately avoided posting any pictures of my CV-7, USS Wasp prior to the stream. The model was built and painted as she looked in April-May 1942 when she was part of the British home fleet and running spitfires to Malta. ? 1
jaguar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, LuftManu said: No North Africa. They said it would be problematic too, not enough resources. I sitll believe in Burma which actually... is not PTO, but CBI. So they have references about an even more obscure theater than MTO? I would be surprised...
AEthelraedUnraed Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, deathmisser said: So with the next step of the module series they are working on are. A. Swimming pilots B. No carries C. Needs lot of resourses D. it's not Italy E. It's something new F. Piston engine themed G. Little to no cities H. Not in the Pacific Anything else I'm missing here ? Well, pretty much, but there's two remarks: A) could just be a general game improvement since it's quite useful for Normandy. G) it's not the number of the cities that matters, but the size. Also possibly how densely the buildings are packed, since that is what they hint at. Still, I'm very curious whatever module fits those criteria, as well as being commercially attractive. 1
Guest deleted@83466 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 So who is the person making the final content decisions now, the new Jason equivalent?
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: If it isn't Sicily, I truly don't know whatever module checks all these marks: - Not Italy (mainland Italy???). - Not PTO. - Propellor-based aircraft (mainly???). - No big cities. - Something "new" (new aircraft? new area? both? what is "new" exactly?) Has anybody given a good reason it's not Hungary? I haven't closely read all the reactions to the latest dev video. Late '44 to early '45 would allow the lineup to include most of the late war missing planes from the Luftwaffe and VVS stables. I would think Hungary would qualify as both 'new' and 'visually interesting.' 1
Gambit21 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said: So who is the person making the final content decisions now, the new Jason equivalent? I get the impression that they’re coming to a consensus as a group - with Han/Albert making (already made) the final call.
spreckair Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, oc2209 said: Has anybody given a good reason it's not Hungary? Or maybe Romania, to coincide with the IAR 80?
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: Still, I'm very curious whatever module fits those criteria, as well as being commercially attractive. Aye for me it's got to be in Asia somewhere. The picks are the Philippines, the islands around Papua New Guinea or around the Tioman Islands. As technically they are not in the pacific. But did the Japanese used carries in these areas ?
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, ITAF_Rani said: Not Italy.... doesn' t mean No Sicily... Bit Sicily is a part of Italy thought. I think when they say no Italy it's a full no.
ITAF_Rani Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, deathmisser said: Bit Sicily is a part of Italy thought. I think when they say no Italy it's a full no. At this point if it is not Italy...really courious to know the next DLC.. Hoping Team Fusion will do my beloved Mc 205 soon or later 1
Trooper117 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 That's the biggest anti climax I've had in ages... coffee anyone? 5
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, deathmisser said: Bit Sicily is a part of Italy thought. I think when they say no Italy it's a full no. I'm inclined to agree no Italy == no Sicily, but they did say the main issue with Italy was handling cities, which is less of a problem with Sicily, so I think Sicily might still an outside contender. Possibly also Malta, with corners of Tunisia and Sicily to operate from. Right now my money's on Burma though.
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, spreckair said: Or maybe Romania, to coincide with the IAR 80? Yeah, that would make sense as well. At this point, I think Hungary/Romania are the prime contenders. Much less likely but still theoretically possible: the Courland pocket.
Gambit21 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said: Not Italy.... doesn' t mean No Sicily... lol ? Been telling you guys for years that you’re not going to see Italy - for reasons.
percydanvers Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, oc2209 said: Yeah, that would make sense as well. At this point, I think Hungary/Romania are the prime contenders. Much less likely but still theoretically possible: the Courland pocket. Hungary vs Romania could be interesting because there was the possibility for dogfights between 109s and 109s. I don't believe it actually happened in history, but that was more of a case that it just didn't happen to happen rather than it couldn't happen. Courland Pocket would be really, really interesting, but it might be kind of tough. As I understand it the only Luftwaffe presence was just I. II. and IV. gruppen of JG 54 all flying various Fw-190As, so not a lot of chance for variety in the planeset.
oc2209 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Quote Fourth, we have already started the creation of the technical design documents for the new aircraft and one of these aircraft is already in development. The work on new pilots models is already underway. The pre-production of the new map has started - our designers are doing various research on the new area. This work is very extensive and complex because the chosen theatre of war is very interesting and visually appealing. But the reference documents and materials are not easy to come by. In fact, as it was before in our team experience, it looks like we'll not only create a new memorable realistic combat sim, but make a contribution to the history as a science by uncovering new data. At the very least we'll do our part in refreshing the public memory of these events. Okay, just reposting this here for analysis. New pilot models. Let's think about that for a moment. Wouldn't that almost mean a new air force? Hungary or Romania would qualify here. So would Sicily or somewhere in the Pacific, but I'm still going with Europe for probability.
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