Now that we have the beautiful Me-410...what about...

[Blitzen]

other aircraft in the pipeline? We have had a little news about the C-47 , which has been most welcome , but has anyone seen anymore gen about the flyable B-25? Is is still a possibility this year? Inquiring minds would sure like to know...

[DBFlyguy]

1 minute ago, Blitzen said:

other aircraft in the pipeline? We have had a little news about the C-47 , which has been most welcome , but has anyone seen anymore gen about the flyable B-25? Is is still a possibility this year? Inquiring minds would sure like to know...

 

 

[MisterSmith]

Probably gonna have to move this but I'll let it ride for a couple of days here.

 

Smith

[Blitzen]

21 minutes ago, MisterSmith said:

Probably gonna have to move this but I'll let it ride for a couple of days here.

 

Smith

Thanks! We'll see what we can see...

[Jade_Monkey]

Zero clues other than the latest post in B25 from Jason in his officers club thread last November.

 

My guess is that there is a chance the B25 could be in scope for the next battle, but that really depends on the direction the series takes.

 

I'd really love it, and happy to pay for it.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Jade_Monkey hit it with the first word in his post.

 

 

[=621=Samikatz]

No chance we see any more announcements until Normandy is out the door and the dust settled. Not gonna lie and not say that's a good part of my hype for BoN's release though

[PatrickAWlson]

Flyable allied mediums aren't even in preorder.  Not going to see them any time soon.

[Supercharger]

They should fix all the known issues on our existing aircraft first, before we start to discuss about another new one..... 

[Avimimus]

23 hours ago, MisterSmith said:

Probably gonna have to move this but I'll let it ride for a couple of days here.

 

Smith

 

Yeah, it is basically a 'wish list' topic... but if all of the wishlist, speculation, and theory-crafted 'possible modules' threads get moved immediately there, some of us won't get to 'scratch the itch' and will spend most of our time in the wishlist section. It is just a little bit too much fun to resist.

 

[Avimimus]

 

  

21 hours ago, =621=Samikatz said:

No chance we see any more announcements until Normandy is out the door and the dust settled. Not gonna lie and not say that's a good part of my hype for BoN's release though

 

Hmm... I wonder if it'd make more sense to make the announcement while people are still coming off of a high from BoN's release... or to wait until the fall so we could get 'thirstier' and also boost the sales of the collector vehicles/aircraft?

 

It might make the most sense to launch the pre-order for Flying Circus 3 sometime in September and the pre-order for the next BoX in October or November?

 

That said, I'm not an expert in marketing. It is kind-of interesting to try to guess the timing though.

[Sitaro]

On 8/26/2022 at 11:49 AM, MisterSmith said:

Probably gonna have to move this but I'll let it ride for a couple of days here.

 

Smith

Seriously curious, where should it be moved to? I scrolled the categories.  I didn't see a wish list. Does't really seem like a suggestion since it is phrased like a question. It is not a complaint by my standards. 

 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Sitaro

[MisterSmith]

1 minute ago, Sitaro said:

Seriously curious, where should it be moved to? I scrolled the categories.  I didn't see a wish list. Does3really seem like a suggestion since it is phrased like a question. It is not a complaint by my standards. 

 

 

This morning I was actually thinking a wishlist for maps and assets would be a good category.  It is, however, by it's nature a "suggestion." So, in a day or two it will be moved there.

[Sitaro]

43 minutes ago, MisterSmith said:

 

This morning I was actually thinking a wishlist for maps and assets would be a good category.  It is, however, by it's nature a "suggestion." So, in a day or two it will be moved there.

Ok. I guess I tend to take things literally. A suggestion is typically a statement. A question is just a question. Again, being completely serious. 

[sevenless]

A20-G as a flyable would perhaps make the most sense.

 

 

[ROCKET_KNUT]

4 minutes ago, sevenless said:

A20-G as a flyable would perhaps make the most sense.

 

 

Would make an excellent give away as well... ? You´re still interested in the tear drop Spit? If so, please pm me. BR

[Avimimus]

2 hours ago, sevenless said:

A20-G as a flyable would perhaps make the most sense.

 

Ah, but which variant? The A-20G1 with its option for four 20mm cannons, which was used in Russia. A Boston III with its British bombs and four 0.303 forward armament (with an option of possibly upgrading it into a strafer?) or one of the A-20G versions that was more common with American units (and 6x0.50)?

 

I think the Pe-3 could also be quite relevant (used in Moscow and Stalingrad - and also useful with the new reconnaissance campaign system developed for BoN).

 

All of these would be a bit higher performance and more effective at strafing and low altitude work than the B-25 we'd be getting - and as variants of existing aircraft (and aircraft with two less crew positions) they'd be more affordable to develop.  I don't think I'll really be tempted by the B-25 unless they do the Pacific someday and it comes with a 75mm or 12x0.50 cal machine guns and rockets... still, I understand others wanting it!

[DBFlyguy]

26 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

 

 

I think the Pe-3 could also be quite relevant

Personally wouldn't be interested in something that is only applicable to the soviets...Would rather have something that is applicable to all of the allied nations we currently have in the game, like a B-25 or A-20

 

 

3 hours ago, sevenless said:

A20-G as a flyable would perhaps make the most sense.

 

 

An A-20G would be cool to have...  They are extremely rare today which could lead to "not enough data" challenges... As opposed to the B-25 which you can't throw a rock without hitting one at an airshow (at least in the states), especially J models...

 

 

 

 

 

The last flying A-20G

 

 

 

[sevenless]

11 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Ah, but which variant? The A-20G1 with its option for four 20mm cannons, which was used in Russia. A Boston III with its British bombs and four 0.303 forward armament (with an option of possibly upgrading it into a strafer?) or one of the A-20G versions that was more common with American units (and 6x0.50)?

 

Both.

 

A-20G

The A-20G, delivered from February 1943, would be the most produced of all the series, with 2850 built. The glazed nose was replaced by a solid nose containing four 20 mm (.79 in) Hispano cannon and two .50 in M2 Browning machine guns. After the first batch of 250, the less-accurate cannon were replaced by more machine guns. After 750 aircraft had been built, a power-driven gun turret fitted with two .50 in machine guns was fitted, with the fuselage 6 inches (15 cm) wider as a result, and the ventral tunnel gun changed from a .30 in to another .50 in Browning. The powerplants were two 1,600 hp (1,200 kW) R-2600-23.^[49] Many A-20Gs were delivered to the Soviet Union. US A-20Gs were used on low-level sorties in the New Guinea theatre.

 

Douglas A-20 Havoc - Wikipedia

10 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

An A-20G would be cool to have...  They are extremely rare today which could lead to "not enough data" challenges... As opposed to the B-25 which you can't throw a rock without hitting one at an airshow (at least in the states), especially J models...

 

Should be more than enough:

 

List of surviving Douglas A-20 Havocs - Wikipedia

United States[edit]

Airworthy

A-20G

• 43-21709 – based at Lewis Air Legends in San Antonio, Texas.^[14][15]

On display

A-20G

 

A-20G exhibit at National Museum of the United States Air Force

• 43-22200 Little Joe – National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio.^[16]
• 43-9436 – Pima Air and Space Museum adjacent to Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, Arizona.^[17] This aircraft was originally nicknamed Big Nig during its World War II service, but due to the racist origins of this name, the museum has opted to restore only the nose art image, not the name.

Under restoration or in storage

A-20G

• 43-21627 – in storage, at Pima Air and Space Museum, owned by MARC, adjacent to Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, Arizona.^[18]
• 43-22197 – in storage, owned by Fantasy of Flight in Polk City, Florida.^[19]

Edited August 28, 2022 by sevenless

[BlitzPig_EL]

The A20 G is a model used in many theaters, Widely used in Europe (West and east) and in the southwest Pacific.  Seems an easy choice because of it's universal use anywhere the sim may go next.

 

 

[Avimimus]

Well, there were different series :

A-20G-1-DO with 4x20mm cannon

A-20G-5-DO with 6x0.50 cal

A-20G-20-DO with modified fuselage housing improved defensive armament

 

So, I think one can't have the 4x20mm cannons and the heavier defensive armament (unless one includes Soviet field mods to the gunner stations).

 

The Boston III (used on the Channel map) had substantial changes to the nose and some internal structural differences I gather.

 

P.S. Interestingly some A-20B were also fitted with a strafing nose apparently! So a field mod to our existing aircraft is also possible.

 

 

[ww2fighter20]

For Normandy and Rheinland best option would be A20G Late with if possible the A20J/Boston IV as modifications.

This would give us an strafer (A20G) and an level bomber for both the RAF (Boston IV) and US Airforce (A20J).

[Avimimus]

51 minutes ago, ww2fighter20 said:

For Normandy and Rheinland best option would be A20G Late with if possible the A20J/Boston IV as modifications.

This would give us an strafer (A20G) and an level bomber for both the RAF (Boston IV) and US Airforce (A20J).

 

Ah, but the A-20G-1 / Early would give us a useful aircraft on the Soviet side as well... (e.g. Kuban with 4x20mm cannons - would outgun any other aircraft in Soviet service on that map). I do see your point though - hoping to get three aircraft with the late turret arrangment.

 

 

14 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

Personally wouldn't be interested in something that is only applicable to the soviets...Would rather have something that is applicable to all of the allied nations we currently have in the game, like a B-25 or A-20

 

Reasonable. Although, I'd personally like to see a strafer originating from each of the powers - we have the Ju-88C and the Mosquito FB.VI... we just need an A-20G and a Pe-3 to give every country its own design... and it'd feel pretty incomplete to have all three without the Pe-3.

 

The multirole Pe-3 - much like the early A-20G variants or the Ju-88C - is also quite similar to the dedicated bomber version we already have... so it might not take too much resources:

Pe-3 (197 built)
- Modified nose with increased armament (2x12.7mm).
- Fuel tanks in the bomb bay and radio-bay. Partial fairing over the of the radio-operator's bay. 
- Addition of slats to the wings and removal of dive breaks.
- Changes to the bomb-release equipment. Reduced bomb racks.
- Fixed rearward firing ShKAS.

Some aircraft:
- Increased armour
- Forward firing RS-82 or RS-132
- Field modifications with UB defensive gun
- DAG-10 aerial grenade dispensers or rearward firing RS-82
- Photographic cameras

 

Pe-3Bis (134 built)
- New nose with less glasing, and further increased armament (1x20mm, 2x12.7mm forward firing). Relocated guns.
- Late series streamlined canopy and defensive UB turret.
- Relocated nosewheel
- Increased armour
 

 

 

[Denum]

I'd love a B25... and a carrier... 

why stop there though. Its pacific time 

[SOLIDKREATE]

I think the B-25 would spawn 100+ bomber virtual squadrons over night.