IL-2 COD VR

[Barn-Owl]

Just curios, when will the VR version of the game become available?  Was it not supposed to come out this summer?  I feel like the second coming of Christ will take place before this thing is released!  LOL

[Buzzsaw]

We are continuing to test and improve the VR Beta... right now we are working with Pimax to resolve some issues their headset has... their software people will hopefully be able to make some changes which will improve performance.

 

At this point we are still aiming for a Summer 2022 release, but no gurantees... when it is done, it is done.

[Barn-Owl]

Ahh, noted.  Thanks for the feedback Buzzsaw.  

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

On 8/4/2022 at 9:44 PM, Buzzsaw said:

We are continuing to test and improve the VR Beta... right now we are working with Pimax to resolve some issues their headset has... their software people will hopefully be able to make some changes which will improve performance.

 

At this point we are still aiming for a Summer 2022 release, but no gurantees... when it is done, it is done.

not to mention they (PiMax) also working on a new pitool update firmware and NVIDIA is also helping them (PiMax). They are boasting a 25% increase with the latest for the PiMax 5K.

Hope the same or even more, with the 8Kx that I have. 25%-30%.

Edited August 9, 2022 by 71st_AH_Mastiff

[Chilli_40]

Just out of curiosity, how many different brands of hmd's are in the beta test? And how many have currently passed the beta testing phase?

[No.54_Reddog]

On 8/9/2022 at 8:14 PM, Raven4 said:

Just out of curiosity, how many different brands of hmd's are in the beta test? And how many have currently passed the beta testing phase?

 

That is a really good question and one that would really help the community understand the progress being made.

[Buzzsaw]

All of the known types of headsets are being tested.

 

All of them have shown good results with the exception of Pimax and Vive... Vive has been resolved.

[Chilli_40]

4 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

All of the known types of headsets are being tested.

 

All of them have shown good results with the exception of Pimax and Vive... Vive has been resolved.

That's awesome news, thank you for sharing that. I am really looking forward to this release, wished I could have got in on the beta.

[Flyingwrench]

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All of the known types of headsets are being tested.

 

All of them have shown good results with the exception of Pimax and Vive... Vive has been resolved.

Great, can you guess which brand of HMD I own? Clue, it has an illuminated chevron on the front that resembles the old Chevy emblem of my youth. 

[Chilli_40]

16 minutes ago, Flyingwrench said:

Great, can you guess which brand of HMD I own? Clue, it has an illuminated chevron on the front that resembles the old Chevy emblem of my youth. 

lol, I'm sure they won't release till the issues are resolved with the Pimax.

[arprince31]

Hi Buzzsaw. I think I saw a few days ago a post that it was still possible to join the VR beta. Could I be considered, please? I've got a Valve Index VR system which I'm keen to use with CoD.

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Edited September 12, 2022 by Varrattu

[Dagwoodyt]

Given the stated timeline there is no reason to discourage anyone from requesting to participate in the "closed" beta.

[Buzzsaw]

2 hours ago, Varrattu said:

A Déjà-vu?

Unfortunately TeamFusion experienced some code issues which cause problems and glitching to the point 'VR' is not releasable?

 

~V~

No, not the case.  Nothing would prevent us from releasing VR now except that the Pimax headsets are seeing issues... which is an issue with their own software... and the fact we don't want to release VR separately from the rest of the Visual Update package.

[I.JG3_CDRSEABEE]

Why wait on Pimax. Fix it later. Most VR users don't use Pimax. 

[OBT-Eazy]

25 minutes ago, CDRSEABEE said:

Why wait on Pimax. Fix it later. Most VR users don't use Pimax. 

Do not adapt sidewalks for wheelchairs as most people do not use wheelchairs.

Edited September 6, 2022 by OBT-Eazy

[CosmicXSolitude]

1 hour ago, CDRSEABEE said:

Why wait on Pimax. Fix it later. Most VR users don't use Pimax. 

It's actually sad. The vr users not using pimax are missing out heavily. That 175° fov is great, especially for spotting

[Buffo002]

And what about users who don't use VR at all and won't use VR, and have to wait for VR to be ready. I am also in favor of releasing True sky as soon as possible and other changes ... most would definitely be for ...

 

 

[No.54_Reddog]

this dogmatic approach to releasing the whole package or none at all has been an issue since day one. doesn't matter what we say, Buzzsaw will do it his way.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

1 hour ago, No.54_Reddog said:

this dogmatic approach to releasing the whole package or none at all has been an issue since day one.

 

 

Apparently, the Flight Sims Court keeps pronouncing its pitiless (though full of justice) sentences. Dura lex sed lex... LoL.

 

 

[BOO]

1 hour ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

Apparently, the Flight Sims Court keeps pronouncing its pitiless (though full of justice) sentences. Dura lex sed lex... LoL.

 

 

Not sure how you can up vote one post asking for release without VR then immediately knock another for pointing out out that there has been past instances of releases being held until other non related matters are resolved? 

 

In this case however its not just Primax ergo VR - its speedtree and truesky as well. Now it does make sense not to release anything given 3 of the 4 headliners  still require work. Whether it makes sense when they are fixed and only Primax (not VR) is outstanding is another matter.

 

I have no idea how many poential customers use Primax. The three people I know who pre ordered no longer use them for various reasons. Clearly they are hardly representative. A release that works for all is the ideal but if a certan product becomes an obsticle there must surely become a time where "working towards" has to suffice?  Time will tell. 

[Dagwoodyt]

Half a dozen(?) disgruntled individuals demanding that their pet enhancements be released before any others will not move the needle, but maybe they should say more about why they believe they are being slighted  ?

Edited September 6, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[343KKT_Kintaro]

1 hour ago, BOO said:

Not sure how you can up vote one post asking for release without VR then immediately knock another for pointing out out that there has been past instances of releases being held until other non related matters are resolved? 

 

In this case however its not just Primax ergo VR - its speedtree and truesky as well. Now it does make sense not to release anything given 3 of the 4 headliners  still require work. Whether it makes sense when they are fixed and only Primax (not VR) is outstanding is another matter.

 

I have no idea how many poential customers use Primax. The three people I know who pre ordered no longer use them for various reasons. Clearly they are hardly representative. A release that works for all is the ideal but if a certan product becomes an obsticle there must surely become a time where "working towards" has to suffice?  Time will tell. 

 

 

Hi BOO... simply compare both messages, the one from Buffo (polite, with a smiley) and the one from Reddog (which, on top of being so aggressive, pontificates a hastly conclusion, indeed this "since day one" is nothing but nonsense). So yes, I silently responded to Buffo in the view of everyone by means of an upvote and I responded to Reddog by means of a quotation.

 

If the upgrade had been done early, those who now so nastily critisize TFS because of this delay (delay due to the fact that TFS wants the Pimax issue is addressed first)... would have critisized TFS in the same nasty way because of the TFS game is not compatible with the Pimax headsets. Yes they would have. Now we know them.

 

TrueSKY and SpeedTree may have been implemented separately from the VR arrival at the Dover series (or may not have been, I'm not a developer). Not to me to decide that, I simply expressed the same wishes as Buffo. Thus, I still find that Buffo's message deserves my upvote and I still see the agressive tone of others who use to hang around in these IL2CoD forums only to harm TFS and their work. I simply cannot understand how the TFS team of developers can stand them.

 

 

19 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

Half a dozen individuals demanding that their pet enhancements be released immediately will not move the needle, but please say more about your reasons for unhappiness  ?

 

 

Absolutely Dagwoodyt, absolutely. I can't believe this half a dozen is not able to face a so simple little thingy.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by 343KKT_Kintaro
Typo... Dogwoodyt -> Dagwoodyt

[No.54_Reddog]

However much you bait me Kintaro I am not going to resort to your mud slinging and name calling match. The facts, regardless of how you see them, are very much in my favour.

 

"Since day 1" - please point me to a point where in discussing VR & the visual improvements TFS have shown any sign of releasing any part of the visual upgrade separately? You can't. They haven't. Thus, "since day 1" is absolutely and irrefutably correct. That you find the use of clear language "aggressive" says more about you than it does about me.

 

Could you please clarify who the "those" are in your second paragraph are and whether you include myself among them (I'm pretty sure you do but I'd hate to jump to a conclusion - like assuming what anyone would or wouldn't say in a certain situation).

[BOO]

1 hour ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

Hi BOO... simply compare both messages, the one from Buffo (polite, with a smiley) and the one from Reddog (which, on top of being so aggressive, pontificates a hastly conclusion, indeed this "since day one" is nothing but nonsense). So yes, I silently responded to Buffo in the view of everyone by means of an upvote and I responded to Reddog by means of a quotation.

 

Hi Kintaro. I have a lot of respect for Reddog knowing a little of his past history with Clod so we will perhaps view things differently. I believe he has a point with what he says and I'll leave it at that. 

 

A little grit makes pearls.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

BOO, I came very recently to these official forums... but I was there in 2011. The game was released in March but my deluxe boxed set was already preordered, as of January I think, or maybe February. The game wasn't playable (not to me) so I quickly gave up and only played it from time to time. Before I realise the game was finally far more than playable, it took me two years more after 2017 (the Blitz release).

 

"doesn't matter what we say, Buzzsaw will do it his way".

 

Obviously he will. Welcome to the real world, Reddog. Please do accept the fact that software development companies do not give prerogatives to the users of their official forum as if the so mentioned forum users were an empowered committee which participates and orientates the development of the company's products. I'm not happy neither with the time it takes, I'm eager for a modern-standards "Cliffs of Dover" (3D clouds, dynamic weather, VR compatibility, 4K visuals, new add-ons, etc.), but this is an entertainment product, this is a game, and I find it is reasonable when I read positively expressed criticism (Buffo's for example, see above) same as I dislike when I read the demolishing wrecking balls that you Reddog, and a few others too I may say, are permanently activating in these forums.

 

Reddog, you're unhappy with TFS... but I'm unhappy with you forgetting that you don't run TFS. It really disturbs me. Don't you see where the problem lies?

 

[Dagwoodyt]

Does anyone really believe that failure of Pimax to update its' software to TFS' requirements would delay release of the Visual Update if all promised feature enhancements were implemented and performing as intended? ?

Edited September 7, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[OBT-Eazy]

4 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

Does anyone really believe that failure of Pimax to update its' software to TFS' requirements would delay release of the Visual Update if all promised feature enhancements were implemented and performing as intended? ?

This is a judgement of intentions.
It's a common process more and more often used here to discredit TFS.

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by OBT-Eazy

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Edited September 12, 2022 by Varrattu

[343KKT_Kintaro]

5 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

Does anyone really believe that failure of Pimax to update [blah blah blah] requirements would [etc. etc. etc. and more blah blah blah]

 

 

Who cares? To the Flight Sims Court the point is harming TFS by permanently spoiling the forums with vain gossip and head-on attacks. The promised upgrade is delayed, this is an official announcement from the official development company... and there's nothing we can do... end of story. I upvoted your above post Dagwoodyt for I agree with it, but please note that in connection with other matters I sent you one private message two weeks ago, a private message that still reads "Not read yet". Would you kindly go to the private area of the forums and respond to my query? That would be lovely, really.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Varrattu said:

Yes, it is not acceptable to import a bugged virtual reality into such a lovingly developed game like this.

And it is a very exciting progress for the TF BugBusters. They diccovered the MADDOX-Channel-Density-Bug. They diccovered the PIMAX-Virtual-Reality-Bug. What will come next? Will TeamFusion discover bugs in the TF-BugTracker?

 

~V~

 

 

Of a kind sarcastic, Varrattu?

 

 

[simfan2015]

343KKT_Kintaro wrote, and I quote : " ... To the Flight Sims Court the point is harming TFS by permanently ..."

Indeed, a "strange movement" as I call it is taking over the gaming community in general.

Is this a coincidence or is there more to it ?

 

OFF TOPIC, FWIW ...

On Steam I have reacted to some people's claims that, whatever(!) game it seems, is complete rubbish these days !?

In vain of course.

I can understand people not being happy with whatever sim and/or game, but always the same people always 

 the same completely unfounded criticism like 'this or other game/sim being cr*p, s*ucks, is abandoned, did not sell well ...'.

Why loosing time over something you are not Ok with, doesn't make any sense to me at all.

These are of course the "days of social media" where governments are brought down by conspiracy theories. 

[Dagwoodyt]

If Pimax needs to update its' software to be compatible with the Visual Update their software revision could surface before or after release of the Visual Update. 

[OBT-Lionel]

The question I ask myself,

 

if Pimax takes a year before updating its software,

 

what will happen?

[OBT-Eazy]

1 hour ago, Dagwoodyt said:

If Pimax needs to update its' software to be compatible with the Visual Update their software revision could surface before or after release of the Visual Update. 

If happens after, very bad publicity for Pimax (don't care about their customers).

Edited September 7, 2022 by OBT-Eazy

[Buzzsaw]

Hello All

 

We will wait till the rest of the update is ready... if the Pimax issue is not solved by then, we will publish the update and deal with the problem later.

[No.54_Reddog]

1 hour ago, Buzzsaw said:

Hello All

 

We will wait till the rest of the update is ready... if the Pimax issue is not solved by then, we will publish the update and deal with the problem later.

 

Excellent news. Is the same likely or possible in relation to TrueSky or Speedtree? Do you envisage the problems you're encountering there to block release of an otherwise complete component and would you make a similar decision at that point to release one without the other?

[OBT-Eazy]

22 minutes ago, No.54_Reddog said:

 

Excellent news. Is the same likely or possible in relation to TrueSky or Speedtree? Do you envisage the problems you're encountering there to block release of an otherwise complete component and would you make a similar decision at that point to release one without the other?

 

Yes, release the Visual Update without TrueSky and Speedtree, please!  Can't wait!

[BOO]

8 minutes ago, OBT-Eazy said:

 

Yes, release the Visual Update without TrueSky and Speedtree, please!  Can't wait!

 

Hi Eazy. Thats not whats being asked. The question is about releasing either Truesky or Speedtree on its own if the other is proving to be a problem. In other words does the Visual update rely on completion of all 4 elements (with or without Primax) or can it be considered for release with 3 if one or the two other outstanding elements (ST or TS) is proving more difficult to resolve. 

 

 

[stburr91]

It's not uncommon for the parent company to make many of the decisions regarding updates, as they incur expenses for the updates (overing seeing the project, quality control, packaging the update/sending to publisher, and marketing). To keep expenses down, it would make sense to package all these separate updates into one release. I guess my point is that this decision may not be completely up to TF. 

 

Anyway, I'm excited for the update (whenever it may release) as I just recently got into flight sims with CoD Blitz, and Desert Wings. 

[Dagwoodyt]

TFS needs to fulfill stated comittments to its' customers, those both old and new. If success were to drift into 2023 that would be unfortunate, but better than a piecemeal deployment that might easily backfire.

Edited September 7, 2022 by Dagwoodyt