Flight object linking to Waypoints ?

[jollyjack]

Generally you see 2 ways of linking a flight of a few planes to it's route waypoints.

1) Only the leader is object linked.

2) Every plane is linked.

 

I wonder why and what's best ...

[Zooropa_Fly]

1) When only the leader is OL'd - he is operating under a Formation Command. All objects TL'd to the leader will do as he does.

2) When every plane is linked to the WP, they are not 'formed up'. They won't be TL'd to a leader.

 

Formation Commands only work with objects that are 'Activated' into the game (they appear only once).

Doesn't work with 'Spawned' objects (that can be re-spawned). This is a long standing frustration.

 

S!

ZF.

[DD_Friar]

by Target linking planes 2,3,4.... (NOT 4 to3, 3 to 2, 2 to 1) to the leader, if the leader is killed, plane 2 will assume command and so on.

[jollyjack]

19 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

2) When every plane is linked to the WP, they are not 'formed up'. They won't be TL'd to a leader.

 

I guess you mean not following formation.

 

I just saw a airfield plane taxi charted take off in a mission, with every plane Object linked to the first WP, and the same for all the other wayponts.

A Formation command set to safe was at the 2nd WP, also with all planes Object linked. Flight seemed to behave well.

 

Further down was a AttackArea comand mutli OL'd.

Now on auto pilot only the flight planes started bombing, flight leader cycling around 'what am i doing here". Bingo bombs not set BTW.

[Zooropa_Fly]

There's a million and one ways to do most things in the ME, and I don't know the half of it !

 

Linking all the planes the WP's whilst connected to a 'leader' (under 'activate') will still work.

It's just not necessary.

 

S!

[Gambit21]

On 7/24/2022 at 1:15 AM, jollyjack said:

Generally you see 2 ways of linking a flight of a few planes to it's route waypoints.

1) Only the leader is object linked.

2) Every plane is linked.

 

I wonder why and what's best ...

You have “logic” formations whereby the aircraft are in formation as per the mission logic MCU “formation” and all aircraft are target-linked to the leader.

 

In this case only the leader should be object linked - the end. Anything else is a logic ‘mistake’ 

 

Then you have “faked” formations whereby every plane is object linked to it’s own waypoint. We use this for bomber formations and such. As an aside Patrick was creating his formations this way for PWCG, not sure if he still is. His missions are not built in the editor.

[IckyATLAS]

When you have a formation and you damage voluntarily with a Command Damage a plane, you can only have a complete damage which makes the plane explode but also explode all the planes in the formation.  When an enemy shoots down a plane only that plane is destroyed.

Same for artillery formations. This command should be only applicable to the entity that is object linked and not the others.

A bug that has never been corrected.

 

[jollyjack]

Icky, you mean a formation with only the leader object linked to the waypoints?

 

PS Could use that bug with the locally forecasted wasp-plague this year. Get my air gun ready LoL.

Alas they all look alike ...

[IckyATLAS]

3 hours ago, jollyjack said:

Icky, you mean a formation with only the leader object linked to the waypoints?

Yes I have never tried to link in duplicate each element of the formation with the same waypoint as for the leader.

But this changes nothing as in AAA artillery where there are no waypoints the result is the same.