ROCKET_KNUT Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 Reeeeeeeealy? Where do you get your ideas of German First Names from? Chinese lucky cookies or Google, once it has had three bottles of Nordhäuser Doppel Korn? "Hilde" is short for Hildegard (female) and Bert is... well it is just Bert (male) or short for Heribert (male and helarious in itself) all squeezed into one single first name. Back in 1933? Already outdateted a thousend years or so. I don´t want to imagine the hell, one school girl or -boy would have to go through in the 2020ies like now. But that name, back then, under a Naziregime??? Was für ein gequirlter Quark, ihr habt echt nicht alle auf der Leitung, vielleicht holt ihr euch mal professionelle Hilfe!!! 1 4 1
Asgar Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 It's a common German name... in time around 700 to 1100 3
ROCKET_KNUT Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Asgar said: It might have been a common name in which part of the world is yet to be discovered... in time around 700 to 1100 Quoting myself here: "Already outdateted a thousend years or so." But thank you very much anyway... ? 2
Asgar Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 i tend to not read shit rants in full fat writing that are crying for attention, but hey, if that's your biggest issues with the game... i guess that's pretty good 3
AndyJWest Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 This guy seems to have survived being called Hildeburt: https://www.journals.elsevier.com/phytomedicine/announcements/obituary-professor-dr-dr-h-c-mult-hildebert-wagner
1CGS LukeFF Posted June 24, 2022 1CGS Posted June 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, ROCKET_KNUT said: Reeeeeeeealy? Where do you get your ideas of German First Names from? Chinese lucky cookies or Google, once it has had three bottles of Nordhäuser Doppel Korn? "Hilde" is short for Hildegard (female) and Bert is... well it is just Bert (male) or short for Heribert (male and helarious in itself) all squeezed into one single first name. Back in 1933? Already outdateted a thousend years or so. I don´t want to imagine the hell, one school girl or -boy would have to go through in the 2020ies like now. But that name, back then, under a Naziregime??? Was für ein gequirlter Quark, ihr habt echt nicht alle auf der Leitung, vielleicht holt ihr euch mal professionelle Hilfe!!! Dude, slow down already. As for where all these names come from, they come from unit rosters, not some random site on the Internet. Most of the German names come from either Jan Horn's book on KG 51, a loss list of JG 54 personnel, or the Wikipedia list of German aces from WWII. As for "Hildebert" being an outdated name by the 1930s: https://books.google.com/books?id=7QMAwpZvNocC&pg=RA12-PA56&lpg=RA12-PA56&dq="hildebert"+pilot+wwii&source=bl&ots=-jwGraRUaN&sig=ACfU3U2d6RDy9RZtQXHTe-nHdKjl827ukA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvz-_Y-Mb4AhWhJkQIHQfaAO0Q6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q="hildebert" pilot wwii&f=false https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/74118/Ellersiek-Kurt-Hildebert.htm https://www.herbalgram.org/resources/herbalgram/issues/90/table-of-contents/feat_adaptogens/ Quote Hildebert Wagner, PhD, is Professor Emeritus at the Institute for Pharmaceutical Biology at the University of Munich in Germany. He is the author of 7 books including: Plant Drug Analysis (Springer Verlag Heidelberg, 1996), and Drugs and Drug Constituents (Wissenschaftliche Verlagsgesellschaft Stuttgart, 1998), as well as authoring over 900 scientific publications. Dr. Wagner was made a full professor of pharmacognosy in 1965, and later served as director of the Institute of Pharmaceutical Biology in Munich until 1999. He has been distinguished by many international scientific institutions, including the Universities of Ohio, Budapest and Debrecen, Dijon, and Helsinki for his work in pharmacognosy. Dr. Wagner sits on advisory/editorial boards for Phytochemistry, the Journal of Ethnopharmacology, the Journal of Natural Products, as well as serving as Founding Editor for the international journal Phytomedicine. He is the recipient of the American Botanical Council’s Norman R. Farnsworth Excellence in Botanical Research Award in 2008. I don't mind my work being criticized, but at least do your research before going off on a rant like this. 1 6
ROCKET_KNUT Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 You have to win, right? Mir doch egal. Issues with the game? A lot more than that one. Are to be adressed once there will be time to do it. Whatever that means. This one? Well, if you as a German don´t get it... There is nothing left for me to explain. Have fun with Hilde or Bert or both. At the same time or not... Yeah, forget it, you win. Just now, LukeFF said: Dude, slow down already. As for where all these names come from, they come from unit rosters, not some random site on the Internet. Most of the German names come from either Jan Horn's book on KG 51, a loss list of JG 54 personnel, or the Wikipedia list of German aces from WWII. As for "Hildebert" being an outdated name by the 1930s: https://books.google.com/books?id=7QMAwpZvNocC&pg=RA12-PA56&lpg=RA12-PA56&dq="hildebert"+pilot+wwii&source=bl&ots=-jwGraRUaN&sig=ACfU3U2d6RDy9RZtQXHTe-nHdKjl827ukA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvz-_Y-Mb4AhWhJkQIHQfaAO0Q6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q="hildebert" pilot wwii&f=false https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/74118/Ellersiek-Kurt-Hildebert.htm https://www.herbalgram.org/resources/herbalgram/issues/90/table-of-contents/feat_adaptogens/ I don't mind my work being criticized, but at least do your research before going off on a rant like this. Yeah, just living in this country for ages, understanding nothing of it and its history, what do I know of its culture. But thank you for the education anyway. Of course, you win. Call it whatever you like KnutFritzIngeBärbel or else...
1CGS LukeFF Posted June 24, 2022 1CGS Posted June 24, 2022 Wait, hang on a second - is this a PWCG career? I can't find that name anywhere in the German pilot names list. If so, you need to be posting that message in the PWCG forum. Luke (who can't speak German but has Germanic ancestry going back as far as 1000 AD ?).
sevenless Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, LukeFF said: Wait, hang on a second - is this a PWCG career? I can't find that name anywhere in the German pilot names list. If so, you need to be posting that message in the PWCG forum. Luke (who can't speak German but has Germanic ancestry going back as far as 1000 AD ?). Just type Hildebert in Google. There are quite some hits for prominent academics and lesser german, austrian or swiss folks who still carry this name today. Very rare though. Obviously it is of old-german maybe even going back to frankish origin, but even today and obviously 80 years back that was a completely legit name. Interesting meaning of the name: Der männliche Vorname Hildebert ist ein alter deutscher Name mit der Bedeutung "der berühmte Kämpfer". Der zweigliedrige Name setzt sich zusammen aus den althochdeutschen Elementen hiltja für "Kampf" und berahtfür "glänzend, berühmt". the male first name Hildebert is an old German name meaning "the famous fighter". The two-part name is made up of the Old High German elements hiltja for "fight" and beraht for "shining, famous". https://www.cup.lmu.de/de/departments/pharmazie/personen/prof-em-dr-dr-h.c.mult-hildebert-wagner/?lang=de https://www.dvag.de/hildebert.ruhhammer/impressum.html https://de-de.facebook.com/hildebert.hutt etc. Edited June 24, 2022 by sevenless 1
Juri_JS Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, ROCKET_KNUT said: But that name, back then, under a Naziregime??? After a short search in my Luftwaffe documents I found a Flak officer with the name Hildebert Kistner, so apparently the name wasn't that uncommon during the time.
Noisemaker Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 Soon he'll be complaining about the upcoming Italian names like Biggus Dickus. 13
ROCKET_KNUT Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 Rocket, german ancesters... From when? Dunno, ten thousend years or more, from Moon, Mars or whatever? Who gives a flying toss, I don´t. These things don´t matter to me. If you know something better then me, I´ll admit it, I´m glad to improve, not to patronise... Been in Germany all my live, speaking the language, worked for her, served her, being part of her and still contributing to her social live, her culture... Probably will be spending the rest of my live here... Learned three foreign languages as well, spent time abroad. Learned to work with people from other countries without issues. You love the german language because of your german ancesters? They can´t date back more than 1492 (and I doubt, Germans being on Colombusses ships...) So here is one for you: "Also, wenn Du mir ans Bein pissen willst, steh´ früher auf." All I did highlight in my first post is: Put more care into your german name creations, but if I have to explain that to you... well... 3
ROCKET_KNUT Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 Not complainig, surely not about italian names, made up by the British, since these are two of the four countries I know, love and speak their language. 2 minutes ago, sevenless said: Less Schnaps would be better for the rocket... You should know, how horrible Nordhäuser Doppelkorn really is... I do. Haven´t touched that shit for decades....
1CGS LukeFF Posted June 24, 2022 1CGS Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ROCKET_KNUT said: Who gives a flying toss, I don´t. Then why did you bring it up in the first place? ? 13 minutes ago, ROCKET_KNUT said: You love the german language because of your german ancesters? They can´t date back more than 1492 (and I doubt, Germans being on Colombusses ships...) One of my maternal great-grandmothers had the maiden name of Mauser. That family line comes from the Baden-Württemberg region of Germany; they emigrated to the USA in the early 1800s. Trace it back through the years, and you end up at Graf Ludwig I von Schauenburg, born in 1092 and died in 1140 in Reinhardsbrunn. That's 25 generations of German ancestry. Trust me, I take this stuff very seriously. Edited June 24, 2022 by LukeFF
ROCKET_KNUT Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, LukeFF said: Then why did you bring it up in the first place? ? One of my maternal great-grandmothers had the maiden name of Mauser. That family line comes from the Baden-Württemberg region of Germany; they emigrated to the USA in the early 1800s. Trace it back through the years, and you end up at Graf Ludwig I von Schauenburg, born in 1092 and died in 1140 in Reinhardsbrunn. That's 25 generations of German ancestry. Trust me, I take this stuff very seriously. I didn´t bring up my ancesters... You brought up yours... I´m not impressed by how many "Graf von zur See und auf den Wellen" you can dig out. Die waren alle auf der Santa Maria, ja? I was born here, I´ve been raised here, I´ve been teached here, I´ve served Germany, I worked for her, I´m still doing it and all that shit... None of what relates to my original post, but since you brought it up... Looks like, I can bring up a bit more then just "...my ancesters have been Graf..." The 26th generation of some high born makes you exactly what? You´re not even on the same continent. Let alone speaking the bloody language. And, by the way, since you brought it up... You know, what sort of a shithole Reinhadsbrunn is these days..? Didn´t think so. You own it now (i know you don´t?)?, then go ahead and fix it. Mann oh Mann... This is getting boring... 2
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