Late war 109´s by Boelcke - Bf109G-6/AS (Bf109G-14/AS) skins added

[Boelcke]

Hi all,

 

just wanted to do some historic correct late war skins for the Bf109G-14 and the K-4. In the coming weeks/months i will add new skins from time to time into this thread.

 

Sources:

Michael Ullmann: Luftwaffe_Colours_1935-1945

https://www.abebooks.de/erstausgabe/Luftwaffe-Colours-1935-1945-Ullmann-Michael-Hikoki/2171429056/bd

BF 109 Late Versions: Camouflage & Markings

https://www.abebooks.de/9788361421139/Bf109-Late-Versions-Camouflage-Markings-8361421130/plp

and

 

the histories of JG 53, JG 77 and JG 27 - all Bf 109 users - by Jochen Prien.
 

 

Already existing are these generic packs:

The generic skipack for the Bf109G14 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

Spoiler

http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1225

The Bf109K4 generic skinpack - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

Spoiler

http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1226

 

The new ones:

 

Bf109K-4, WNr 334176, yellow 1, 11./JG3, Martin Deskau, May 1945 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

available here:

 

http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1242

 

Next one:

 

Bf 109G14, 4./JG 77, Schönwalde November 1944, pilot Horst Schlick, WNR 512382 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

 

According to the WNr the plane was build by the WNF factory. I´m not shure about the yellow rudder, i saw a lot of photos from that plane but one could never see the rudder. But the WNF build planes had usualy a yellow cowling and a yellow rudder, so it´s most likely.

 

About the pilot: Horst Schlick served with JG 77 from the invasion of Russia till the end of ww2 and was one of the few early war pilots of the unit who survived.

 

available here:

http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1241

 

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2023 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

Added two new skins:

 

Bf109K-4, Wnr 330255, Stab III./JG27 found in Wunstorf May 1945 by british troops. The lower wings are partly unpainted - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

 

Spoiler

 

available here:

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1244

 

 

The next one is a little bit speculative ... but very interesting

 

Bf109K-4, WNr 332579, black15, 14./JG 53 found in Holzkirchen April 1945 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

Camouflage is described as RLM 75/77/76, fuselage crosses filled with RLM 82. On the black and white pictures it is hard to decide, but in the book BF 109 Late Versions: Camouflage & Markings it was mentioned that way.
 

 

Spoiler

 

available here:

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1243

 

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

More Messers ...

Most probably a Messerschmitt Regensburg (Mtt) build 109:

Bf109G-14, WNr unkown, Messerschmitt Regensburg (Mtt) build, yellow5, 3./IJG53 found in Attenbaum, near Kassel, May 1945 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

 

The yellow Ruddder was overpainted, the nose is an assumption, as i could only find fotos where the nose wasn´t visible, but most likely with a white spiral on the spinner.

 

Spoiler

 

available here:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1246

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

Next one:

 

Bf109G-14, WNr 462649, Black 6, pilot Alfred Grislawski, 11./Jg53, Paderborn September 1944 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

Alfred Grislawski was shot down with this aircraft on September 26th 1944, over Münster, after combat with US fighters. He was able to bail out wounded.

I didn´t find fotos from this plane, only profiles - which are mostly wrong. According to the production number (WNr), the plane was an Erla factory build aircraft, which sported the typical Erla painting with straight demarcation line between RLM 74/75 and RLM 76 and the typical RLM 70 blotches on the fuselage.

So, perhaps call it semi historic.

 

available here:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1247

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Boelcke

[sevenless]

2 hours ago, Boelcke said:

Next one:

 

Bf109G-14, WNr 462649, Black 6, pilot Alfred Grislawski, 11./Jg53, Paderborn September 1944

Alfred Grislawski was shot down with this aircraft on September 26th 1944, over Münster, after combat with US fighters. He was able to bail out wounded.

I didn´t find fotos from this plane, only profiles - which are mostly wrong. According to the production number (WNr), the plane was an Erla factory build aircraft, which sported the typical Erla painting with straight demarcation line between RLM 74/75 and RLM 76 and the typical RLM 70 blotches on the fuselage.

So, perhaps call it semi historic.

 

available here:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1247

 

 

Nice one and a nice variation to the one published by Claes Sundin. As you said, how his machine really looked remains speculation. Even Sundin uses a disclaimer (Please note that there is not any known photos of Grislawski's brand new G-14, this profile is therefore based on other machines from this unit and period.)

 

Sundins profile here:

 

Air combat over Münster 1944 (luftwaffeinprofile.se)

[Boelcke]

Thx, yes i know Sundins profile, but Sundin generaly isn´t a good source for skinning.

 

There is a foto existing from Oskar Romms G-14, which according to its production number 462919 is also an Erla produced plane from the same production batch as Grislawskis plane WNr 462649. It looks like this:

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

That was my way to come to an assumption how Grislawskis plane has to look like.

 

btw, Oskar Romms plane will come next ...

Edited August 5, 2022 by Boelcke

[sevenless]

5 hours ago, Boelcke said:

Thx, yes i know Sundins profile, but Sundin generaly isn´t a good source for skinning.

 

There is a foto existing from Oskar Romms G-14, which according to its production number 462919 is also an Erla produced plane from the same production batch as Grislawskis plane WNr 462649. It looks like this:

 

 

That was my way to come to an assumption how Grislawskis plane has to look like.

 

btw, Oskar Romms plane will come next ...

 

Very nice. Do you take suggestions? What about Anton Hafners last mount? A late G6.

 

Here:

Anton Hafner (luftwaffeinprofile.se)

[Boelcke]

I´m sorry, i´m focused on the late war planes, G-14 and K-4 atm.

 

And later going on with my Dora skins ...

 

Edited July 9, 2022 by Boelcke

[sevenless]

15 minutes ago, Boelcke said:

I´m sorry, i´m focused on the late war planes, G-14 and K-4 atm.

 

And later going on with my Dora skins ...

 

 

No sweat. Just found out that another kind gentlemen already created it. Looking forward to your next skins. I like them.

 

[sevenless]

On 7/1/2022 at 7:03 PM, Boelcke said:

The next one is a little bit speculative ... but very interesting

 

Bf109K-4, WNr 332579, black15, 14./JG 53 found in Holzkirchen April 1945.

 

Camouflage is described as RLM 75/77/76, fuselage crosses filled with RLM 82. On the black and white pictures it is hard to decide, but in the book BF 109 Late Versions: Camouflage & Markings it was mentioned that way.
 

 

  Hide contents

 

available here:

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1243

 

 

 

Found a colour pic of that plane you might find usefull. Published in the german magazine Flugzeug Classic Extra:

 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2022 by sevenless

[Boelcke]

Ah, thx, that´s great - will make good use of it ?

[HBPencil]

Sorry to muddy the waters but I believe that magazine photo was a black'n'white that has been colourised... it looks like it has been colourised (especially the grass) and I found this:
https://www.pinterest.de/pin/291959988323684347/

[Boelcke]

Thx m8, Looks like that Plane ist still debatable 

[Boelcke]

Another Erla build plane:

 

Bf109G-14 flown by Oblt. R. Schlegel, CO of 10./JG 4 Jüterbog autumn 1944- updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

Standard camouflage RLM 74/75/76 with blotches on the fuselage, the area of the number was overpainted with RLM 82

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

available here:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1248

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

Bf109K-4, 9./JG53, Reichenbach May 1945 - updated to V2

 

A typical late Kurfürst painted RLM 76/02/81/82, engine cowling RLM 77, lower wings unpainted.

 

Spoiler

 

 

available here:

 

http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1249

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

A new one:

 

Bf109G-14, WNr 512428, 3./JG 77, Dortmund December 1944 - updated to V2 with alpha layer

 

 

 

Spoiler

The WNF build plane was painted in standard RLM 74/75/76 camo, with clean vertical Tail and bare metal or bright primer painted triangular panels under the windscreen.

The plane was found by US troops in May 1945, broken in two after a crash landing.

 

available here:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1251

 

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Boelcke

[esk_pedja]

Is it my PC... or you made a skin without alpha layer ?

[Boelcke]

Sure with alpha layer, but i don´t use glare effects cause for german planes it´s nonsense. The surface has to be dull.

 

Edited July 29, 2022 by Boelcke

[ICDP]

19 hours ago, Boelcke said:

Sure with alpha layer, but i don´t use glare effects cause for german planes it´s nonsense. The surface has to be dull.

 

 

Hi Boelcke.  These are great skins but you need to use an alpha or it causes major isses with some parts of the caircraft.  For example the tailwheel requires an alpha of 0,0,0 to avoid what is happening in your skins.  Look at your tailwheel in your images above.

 

Second.  Even matt finish paint has some reflective qualities.  So using no alpha removes all reflections for your skins, even for those parts that were reflective in real life.  For example paint chips.  Each to their own on how matt or reflective LW planes were in WWII, but at a basic level having no alpha layer breask aspects of the 3D model in sim.

 

Just an FYI.

 

EDIT:  I also forgot to add that no alpha turns off the normal maps, so your skins all look flat.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by ICDP

[Boelcke]

4 hours ago, ICDP said:

 

Hi Boelcke.  These are great skins but you need to use an alpha or it causes major isses with some parts of the caircraft.  For example the tailwheel requires an alpha of 0,0,0 to avoid what is happening in your skins.  Look at your tailwheel in your images above.

 

Second.  Even matt finish paint has some reflective qualities.  So using no alpha removes all reflections for your skins, even for those parts that were reflective in real life.  For example paint chips.  Each to their own on how matt or reflective LW planes were in WWII, but at a basic level having no alpha layer breask aspects of the 3D model in sim.

 

Just an FYI.

 

EDIT:  I also forgot to add that no alpha turns off the normal maps, so your skins all look flat.

 

 

 

Thx for your assistance, will check it out.

 

[MarcoPegase44]

On 7/29/2022 at 5:58 PM, Boelcke said:

Sure with alpha layer, but i don´t use glare effects cause for german planes it´s nonsense. The surface has to be dull.

 

Hi Boelcke,

I completely agree with ICDP.

I really like the way you treated the historical colors of the Luftwaffe, your skins are very beautiful.

But without an alpha layer they lack relief.

The alpha layer allows you to render the different reflections according to the materials of the surfaces. Metals, canvas, wood.

On the other hand, the dosage must be adjusted to avoid as many surfaces make shiny surfaces as if they were covered with ice.

Reflections but no shine, even the duralumin is matte.

I took the liberty of doing a little test with one of your skins

On the pictures

At the top your original skin and at the bottom, the same with an alpha layer that I made

 

[Boelcke]

Thx, i´m just doing some trials with different alpha channels but have some problems with the dds plugin for PS. I think it will take some time to get the things sorted.

 

What grey scale are you using for the skin on the picture?

[MarcoPegase44]

27 minutes ago, Boelcke said:

Thx, i´m just doing some trials with different alpha channels but have some problems with the dds plugin for PS. I think it will take some time to get the things sorted.

 

What grey scale are you using for the skin on the picture?

Hi,

I'm embarrassed to answer you because I don't use PS but GIMP.

You can download my Alpha file for the BF109G14 here : http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=list&id=164

And serve you as an example

For the Bf109K4 it is not yet available

[Boelcke]

So, with the kind support form MarcoPegase44, i made some work to find a suitable alpha channel ...

 

So far for the BF109G-14, i´m satisfied with the result - as you know, not too shiny, as dull as possible ?

 

 

i think this will do it for me

 

For the Fw190A-8, i´m doing the same ...

 

 

it´s looking good for me, the fuselage with some glare, the wings more dull

 

Please tell me your opinion - next step will be the Bf109K-4 and the Fw190D-9, but that will take some time

 

 

Edited August 4, 2022 by Boelcke

[esk_pedja]

Did you upload ( with min. Alpha layer) new yellow 10 as new version at Ax_and_All ?

 

I made and apply (my min. alpha layers) easily with PS...

But many members do not have editing software or skills/experience so it would be kind towards a wide community to upload these new versions. 

[Boelcke]

Give me some days, it takes some time to adjust the new alpha layers and test the results.

 

For the future, new skins i will make each skin as a twin pack with two versions of the skin, one with alpha layer and one without.

 

For the old skins, i will slowly upgrade these as a pack like for the new ones, the yellow ten will be the first one. When ready, i give you a messeage here in this thread.

Edited August 5, 2022 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

Edit: 08/08/2022

 

All Bf109 skins are updated now with alpha layers, also the generic skin packs

dl links are still the same

 

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Boelcke

[Boelcke]

 

New one - two skins, one with and one without alpha layer

 

Bf109G-14, WNr 462919, white 7, pilot Oskar Romm, 10./JG 3, Germany autumn 1944

 

 

An Erla factory build plane, didn´t find any explanation why the markings were overpainted

 

available here

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1253

 

[CUJO_1970]

I must say, the alpha looks amazing:

 

[Boelcke]

One last skin and my work for the late war 109´s is done:

 

Unkown unit, call it semi historic





To be honest, i don´t know much about this plane, but the search for a Bf109G-14 wíth the late war camo was long and very difficult and it´s one of the very few i could find.

available here

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1264

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Boelcke

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, Boelcke said:

One last skin and my work for the late war 109´s is done:

 

Bf109G-14, yellow 20, 9./JG 7, spring 1945

Platzschutz for the JG 7 jets, the plane is painted in RLM 76/81/82 camo, WNr unkown.




To be honest, i don´t know much about this plane, but the search for a Bf109G-14 wíth the late war camo was long and very difficult and it´s one of the very few i could find.

available here

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1264

 

 

Unfortunately, the info you have on this plane is erroneous. JG 7 didn't have an airfield defense staffel of 109s in the spring of 1945. The evidence shows it's a plane from a training unit, not JG 7:

 

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/articles/airframes/ge20/ge20.htm

[Boelcke]

Thx for the link, very interesting.

 

Looks like i have to correct it into an semi historic one.

[Hien-0_1*]

Hi Boelke!

Have sent you a PM. Please answer?

[Yankee_One]

On 9/16/2022 at 10:20 PM, Boelcke said:

Thx for the link, very interesting.

 

Looks like i have to correct it into an semi historic one.

Even if you have to correct that skin, its beautiful.

I like it, well done and good work on that bird.

[Boelcke]

Started my work with the new Bf109G-6/AS template - first with some Bf109G-14/AS skins for BoBP

 

an Erla G-14/AS wip:

 

 

 

 

 

[Boelcke]

 

Bf109G-14/AS, WNr 784930, red1, 2/JG77, Germany January 1944

The skin is made for the Bf109G-6/AS ingame.

 

 

dl:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1331

 

There is no blank skin included, i will do a skin pack with blank skins for the Bf109G-14/AS for different units - soon.

 

 

EDIT 20/05/2023: Updated the skin to version 2.0 to fix a small glitch when choosing the MW50 system, link is still the same.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Boelcke

[Yankee_One]

Thank you and outstanding work!

 

Please don t stop??

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Yeah, thank you, keep it up.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Boelcke]

Here we go ... the first skinpack:

 

The Bf109G-14/AS blank skinpack No1 contains 7 blank skins with fuselage band for different units.

Skins for the Bf109G-6/AS ingame.

 

 

 

 

dl:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1332

 

 

Will create another skinpack with blank Bf109G-14/AS without fuselage band for the different factory paintings from Erla factory and Messerschmitt Regensburg factory (Mtt).

 

[Yankee_One]

On 5/17/2023 at 3:15 PM, Boelcke said:

 

Bf109G-14/AS, WNr 784930, red1, 2/JG77, Germany January 1944

The skin is made for the Bf109G-6/AS ingame.

 

 

dl:

 

http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=1331

 

There is no blank skin included, i will do a skin pack with blank skins for the Bf109G-14/AS for different units - soon.

 

 

Hi Boelcke.

 

Dont know if its intended or not but selecting the MW50 causes an unpainted part on the right side.

 

Is this ac not intended to have a MW50 system?

 

Can you please investigate.

 

Thank you

 

Edited May 20, 2023 by Yankee_One