gulfcoastfella Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Hey, I tried getting into CloD way back when it first came out, but the training missions had lots of bugs in them. Were these ever fixed? Chris 1
343KKT_Kintaro Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, gulfcoastfella said: Hey, I tried getting into CloD way back when it first came out, but the training missions had lots of bugs in them. Were these ever fixed? Chris My rig is broken at the moment and I cannot check this now, not even offline, but I think that the training missions are still a mess in the game: at some point, on board the Tiger Moth, your AI teacher will tell you something like "and now for something completely different" (meaning that he's in charge and that there's nothing you can do for having back the controls)... and then he'll enter into a dive until he crashes the aircraft on the ground and you die with him in the very middle of a great ball of fire.... As a conclusion, think about it: what is the better training? the one you'll get in the game or the one you'll get with your friends on TS or Discord?
Semor76 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) On 6/23/2022 at 11:37 PM, 343KKT_Kintaro said: As a conclusion, think about it: what is the better training? the one you'll get in the game or the one you'll get with your friends on TS or Discord? Sorry, but this is a bad excuse for lazy developmet. How long are the training missions broken? How many years? I think the training missions are an integral part of the single player experience. My conclusion: a paying customer likes to have a working product. Thats it..? Edited June 25, 2022 by Semor76
343KKT_Kintaro Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Semor76 said: Sorry, but this is a bad excuse for lazy developmet. There are no excuses, no good excuses... nor bad ones. There is (simply) no need of this training section. In the game's menu, the developers only need to disable (or hide) the line that links to this unnecessary training section. But this hasn't been done yet... why is that? NO IDEA... maybe as Pete Mitchell says... "it's one of life's mysteries, sir".
OBT-Eazy Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Semor76 said: Sorry, but this is a bad excuse for lazy developmet. How long are the training missions broken? How many years? I think the training missions are an integral part of the single player experience. My conclusion: a paying customer likes to have a working product. Thats it..? I guess you don't fly on DCS ?
Sokol1 Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) On 6/23/2022 at 5:28 PM, gulfcoastfella said: I tried getting into CloD way back when it first came out, but the training missions had lots of bugs in them. Were these ever fixed? No they are not fixed, personally I doubt that will fix someday.* One issue is not in the Training module per si, but in Tiger Moth, the AI is not able to land this plane in some situations, and in the Training module is require that the "instructor" (AI) land de plane, resulting in crash. This is reproducible in other airfields done a Single Mission. The other issue is bad scripting, synchronize in the "chit-chat", what is not in the missions files, but buried in the game code. Better don't touch there, may cause "collateral effect". So, with other priorities, like the VR (that some suppose will "save the game"), who cares about an AI Tiger Moth? * The practical solution, just hide the Training module from game GUI, and put some missions, years ago I start made a training mini-campaign for Tiger Moth, just for fill this gap, but I ended up not finishing... After all, they will add this campaign to the game? No, so at best 2 or 3 will download... because..."who cares about Tiger Moth". Edited June 26, 2022 by Sokol1 1
Dagwoodyt Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, OBT-Eazy said: I guess you don't fly on DCS ? There are many DCS modules with varying training routines and related commentary from users on the DCS forum. If you have issues with DCS why not raise them there? The CloD training module was broken at initial release. Maybe it will one day be replaced or hidden. OTOH you may believe it is fine as is. IDK because you haven't said ?
343KKT_Kintaro Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 gulfcoastfella asked one question and the answer is "no". Other than that, we can keep arguing until a moderator bursts in here and locks the topic.
Team Fusion Buzzsaw Posted June 26, 2022 Team Fusion Posted June 26, 2022 A goal for TF 6.0 is to create a new set of training missions... and delete the old ones. 4 1
343KKT_Kintaro Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Buzzsaw said: A goal for TF 6.0 is to create a new set of training missions... and delete the old ones. Please Buzzsaw if you create a new training section with new sets of training missions... please do not insert again the unrealistic arcade-style markings on the ground and in the air (I hate this in the game as it is... unless you decide the contrary... and in such case I'll be forced to make a concession):
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