VR center position has suddenly moved to the left side of cockpit.

[Blitzen]

I use Reverb G2 headset & in the last day or so my default "centered" position has moved off-center to as if I have been positioned leaning against the left side of the cockpit, but noy only there but through out the game play on menu screens as well. This is not too bad in the new Mosquito ( or the old Ju-88,) where it almost feels right,but in all the other plays it is obviously wrong. My assigned centering button will not correct or override this - it merely recenters in another position that is still off center ! See screenshots that sort of show what I mean. All shots staring directly at the monitor BTW.)

Here's what I've tried:

1.) Uninstalling & reinstalling Steam VR

2.) Restarting Steam.

3.) Uninstalling reinstalling Windows Mixed reality. Re-center for "Sitting Position ,"& when that had so effect did a "Room Boundary "walkaround. Still no joy.

4.) In Data/Startup.cfg resetting "or_render_eyes:"from "1" back to default"0".

5.) Uninstalling Steam Great Battles  & reinstalling same.

6.) Rebooting PC

Still the problems presents itself .Has anyone else had this problem and how have they solved it? Could this be somehow involved in the latest update or patch?

Any ideas on what to do next? Thanks!

( BTW the effect does NOT show up in Cliffs Over Dover gameplay...)

Please move to Technical problems if deemed better placed  for solution there

 

Edited June 19, 2022 by Blitzen
text

[jollyjack]

try the INS HM PU DEL END PD buttons on your keyboard for positioning?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

47 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

I use Reverb G2 headset & in the last day or so my default "centered" position has moved off-center to as if I have been positioned leaning against the left side of the cockpit, but noy only there but through out the game play on menu screens as well. This is not too bad in the new Mosquito ( or the old Ju-88,) where it almost feels right,but in all the other plays it is obviously wrong. My assigned centering button will not correct or override this - it merely recenters in another position that is still off center ! See screenshots that sort of show what I mean. All shots staring directly at the monitor BTW.)

Here's what I've tried:

1.) Uninstalling & reinstalling Steam VR

2.) Restarting Steam.

3.) Uninstalling reinstalling Windows Mixed reality. Re-center for "Sitting Position ,"& when that had so effect did a "Room Boundary "walkaround. Still no joy.

4.) In Data/Startup.cfg resetting "or_render_eyes:"from "1" back to default"0".

5.) Uninstalling Steam Great Battles  & reinstalling same.

6.) Rebooting PC

Still the problems presents itself .Has anyone else had this problem and how have they solved it? Could this be somehow involved in the latest update or patch?

Any ideas on what to do next? Thanks!

( BTW the effect does NOT show up in Cliffs Over Dover gameplay...)

Please move to Technical problems if deemed better placed  for solution there

 

It isn't quite clear from your post, but I understand you already pressed F10?

[Blitzen]

12 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

It isn't quite clear from your post, but I understand you already pressed F10?

Yes.

46 minutes ago, jollyjack said:

try the INS HM PU DEL END PD buttons on your keyboard for positioning?

No effect - PU and PD do pause the game , I suspect because of the "P" for "Pause " key.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

The normal procedure to reset view in VR is:

- Move your head so that your view is the way you would like.

- Press F10 to store this view as the default view.

- Move your head back to how it feels natural.

- Press numpad 5 to reset the view.

 

Can you describe exactly what happens at what point?

[jtbg]

It's interesting to see that it is happening on the Menu screens as well.

Could you post a short video of what happens when you:

1. Start a flight (unpaused)
2. Press the key for "Default VR view"
3. Move you head to the desired position
4. Press the key for "Save current corrections in head snap position"
5. Move your head around
6. Press the key for "Default VR view"

It almost seems like the button you have binding to your "Save current corrections in head snap position" (default is F10) might not be working at all. You might try remapping that function to a new key/button. Make sure it's a button/combo that isn't used for another function, since that can sometimes cause weirdness. 

[Blitzen]

41 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

The normal procedure to reset view in VR is:

- Move your head so that your view is the way you would like.

- Press F10 to store this view as the default view.

- Move your head back to how it feels natural.

- Press numpad 5 to reset the view.

 

Can you describe exactly what happens at what point?

It doesn't solve anything - it adjusts things it bit more to one side or another but still off center..In other words the ditortion remains: the sort of tilted instrument panel & cockpit framing.

23 minutes ago, jtbg said:

It's interesting to see that it is happening on the Menu screens as well.

Could you post a short video of what happens when you:

1. Start a flight (unpaused)
2. Press the key for "Default VR view"
3. Move you head to the desired position
4. Press the key for "Save current corrections in head snap position"
5. Move your head around
6. Press the key for "Default VR view"

It almost seems like the button you have binding to your "Save current corrections in head snap position" (default is F10) might not be working at all. You might try remapping that function to a new key/button. Make sure it's a button/combo that isn't used for another function, since that can sometimes cause weirdness. 

I'll give this a try- its one thing I haven't stumbled upon...stay tuned.

[Blitzen]

Jtbg- I think that was the just the right ticket. I don't have to quit flying the game after all!I foggily seem to remember having to do this once before quite a long time ago...I'm not sure this also corrects menu screens as well .I'll have to check, but thanks again!?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

Well, that's quite a successful first post then. Welcome to the forums @jtbg!

[Skycat1969]

One factor that may affect this is where your Reverb G2 is physically situated when you start the game. I begin every session with a recalibration in the main hangar area, which also serves to test if my Voice Attack software is listening. I have a command in my VA profile for "Reset View."

[EAF19_Marsh]

Mine went through a period of being a right PITA. I used the controllers to centre it first outside of Il-2.

[Blitzen]

7 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Mine went through a period of being a right PITA. I used the controllers to centre it first outside of Il-2.

In Mixed Reality setup?

[Blitzen]

Unfortunately early optimism not deserved. The problem wasn't really solved only modified.

I've included a rough elevation diagram of what I'm seeing in VR. On the left is the default centered view. Easy to understand- its what I used to have. On the right is what I have now. Everything appears to be centered ; the stick & gunsight are right in front of me, but I "appear"to be "angled to the cockpit itself and positioned on the left side in my seat. This position cannot be changed by "default VR view or repetitive centering or moving my head or seated position to try to match this mis-alignment. God knows I've tried. Its a kind of optical illusion that I'm on the left side of the cockpit . I believe the entire cockpit & perhaps aircraft are not aligned with me(?!) Sounds a bit self-centered doesn't it?

Yesterday I did a completer reinstall of everything :game, Mixed Reality ,and Steam VR. Needless to say I still have the problem. Its easy to see as in the cockpits with curved cockpit canopy frames the frame appears to curve away from the viewer ( oddly in some planes like the Mosquito & Ju-88 with left pilot seats it actually improves the experience or so it seems.) This also occurs while viewing almost all of the various menu screens

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Blitzen
Screenshots

[firdimigdi]

Silly question, but WMR settings are setup like this, right?

 

Spoiler

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Firdimigdi

[Blitzen]

Not so silly at all! I just checked.The fresh install either gave me new settings as default or simply repeated what I had before.In any case changibg them to the  settings I thought I had & you just posted solved the problem!!!How could one have known? In any case mark this one :

Edited June 22, 2022 by Blitzen
Screenshots

[firdimigdi]

Right. Camera lenses are clean, no scratches on them and there is nothing emitting a magnetic field nearby, right? Orientation/motion is calculated based on what the cameras see, and what is deduced by a gyroscope and combination accelerometer/magnetometer. Although it would need to either be a strong magnetic field or real close to your headset to affect it.

 

EDIT after resolution

Oh - cool then - enjoy!

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Firdimigdi

[jtbg]

Can we just take a moment to admire this illustration though?

 

 

On 6/22/2022 at 11:27 AM, Blitzen said:

 

[Blitzen]

7 hours ago, jtbg said:

Can we just take a moment to admire this illustration though?

 

 

Yeah…how about that????

[paul_leonard]

The ears are killing me.

[McFly60]

On 6/22/2022 at 6:46 PM, Blitzen said:

Not so silly at all! I just checked.The fresh install either gave me new settings as default or simply repeated what I had before.In any case changibg them to the  settings I thought I had & you just posted solved the problem!!!How could one have known? In any case mark this one :

 

Hi guys,

 

I had the same problem some months ago, and I solved thanks to the answer to this post. Now, for some reasons I don't know (probably due to my experiments in the settings?) I have the same problem again, but I forgot the solution (sigh). Inexplicably it disappeared in this thread.

Could you please refresh my memory?

 

Many thanks

[Blitzen]

I think it was go to your Microsoft Mixed Reality screen and go to settings and reset them.I haven't had this problem for quite a long time now.

[McFly60]

Thank you Blitzen.

What is your headset display resolution setting in WMR?

[Blitzen]

I didn't check but I think its automatic or best...

[McFly60]

Solved. Thank you