After Normandy - 3 Good Choices

[Feldgrun]

Soon the Normandy map will be released, and we will learn what to look forward to in a couple of years. The way I see it, there are three good choices:

 

Pacific: Battle of Guadalcanal

Map includes from Western tip of Guadalcanal (Henderson Field) to Munda Airfield on New Georgia.

New Planes:

  Mitsubishi A6M

  Mitsubishi F1M2

  Aichi D3A1

  Mitsubishi G4M 

  P-40 Tomahawk/Warhawk/Kittyhawk

  P-400 (P-39 export)

  F4F Wildcat

  Lockheed Hudson

  Collectors: Nakajima Ki-43 & SBD Dauntless

 

Italy: Battle of Anzio

Map starts South of Rome & includes Gustav Line.

New Planes:

  Spitfire Mk VIII

  P-40F/K

  A-36/P-51A

  Bristol Beaufighter

  Macchi MC.200

  Macchi C.205

  Reggiane Re.2005

  Savoia-Marchetti SM.79

  Collectors: Fiat G.55 & P-38F

 

Western Europe: Battle of the Rhine

Map combines part of Normandy map (SE England) & extends to targets in Bodenplatte map (Western Germany).

New Planes:

  B-17E/F/G (AI)

  Lancaster (AI)

  Spitfire XVI

  P-47M

  Bf 109 G-10

  Bf 109 G-14/AS

  Bf 110 G-4

  FW Ta-152 H1

  Collectors: Me 163 & P-38L

 

The big question will not be which of these choices we are most interested in, but which of these will bring the biggest profit for the company. This is, after all, a business decision 1C executives have likely already made.

Edited June 23, 2022 by Feldgrun

[Avimimus]

I like the fact that your aircraft list has some unusual aircraft (and/or 'underdog' aircraft).

 

I'd probably rather have a Ju-188 or He-162 than three more Bf-109 variants though ?

[T-Bone51]

Pacific theater (symbolic for its ww2 air combat) would be really interesting and would likely bring some fresh air. Maybe the F4U Corsair as well? Don't know the details how many there were at that time and how long they operated there.

 

And starting/landing from/to an aircraft carrier would be just epic.

[Hoss]

Push to the Oder River on the way to Berlin...  Battle of the Oder River... or .... BoOR 

 

Stettin–Rostock Offensive Operation (16 April 1945 – 5 May 1945) by the 2nd Belorussian Front

Seelow–Berlin Offensive Operation (16 April 1945 – 19 April 1945) by the 1st Belorussian Front

Cottbus–Potsdam Offensive Operation (16 April 1945 – 27 April 1945) by the northern flank and Cavalry Mechanized Group of the 1st Ukrainian Front

Spremberg–Torgau Offensive Operation (16 April 1945 – 25 April 1945) by the southern flank of the 1st Ukrainian Front

 

 

[R33GZ]

I think new Guinea would be more likely, as there is no need to create aircraft carriers, it could conceivably encompass a longer time period and a lot of the allied aircraft are already modeled - P-40, P-39, B-25, B-26

 

For the same reasons, although Clod has already covered it, North Africa would really 'only' require a map, the aircraft are already modelled. They would need updating for sand filters etc, but there is already a good head start to work from

[Vamandrac]

I have a feeling we are either going to get a late war Germany map or heading to Italy.  I know a lot of people are wanting to see the Pacific, but I just don't see it happening.

[II./SG.1-MarkWilhelmsson]

I personally think they should do a mini Pacific release. New Guinea with a few Japanese planes. We already have P39, P40, and the AI bombers that were there. Just a couple Japanese planes and a map is really all it would require. Could probably charge the same as a full price module and it would sell well still.

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, R33GZ said:

no need to create aircraft carriers…

Solomons 

[R33GZ]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

Solomons 

The distances would be way to big based on current maps though. Most Japanese attacks were coming from rabaul weren't they? Mapping the whole slot up to new Britain would be huge... Awesome, but huge. I guess you could 'limit' the Japanese bases to bougainville or the munda area, but these really were just staging bases and is still a massive area

Edited June 16, 2022 by R33GZ

[357th_KW]

 

Roughly 400nm x 250nm to get Rabaul and Guadalcanal onto a square map - but it would be almost entirely water, and contain 1 small city, a handful of villages and 20-30 airfields to cover 1942-1944.  

[AEthelraedUnraed]

In one of the umpteen other threads about the "next Great Battle", I suggested the following map:

Two land battles, one carrier battle which they could do in another module if necessary, and one main base/target, making for campaigns from mid-42 up till the end of the war. The map size is absolutely huge, but the land area is only about half that of Rheinland, and there are relatively little towns.

 

Also, @Feldgrun, they're all good suggestions, but does that really mean they need to be big-fonted suggestions?

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

I really want something (anything) PTO. But, I'm not holding my breath. ☹️

[CountZero]

17 hours ago, Feldgrun said:

Soon the Normandy map will be released, and we will learn what to look forward to in a couple of years. The way I see it, there are three good choices:

 

Pacific: Battle of Guadalcanal

Map includes from Western tip of Guadalcanal (Henderson Field) to Munda Airfield on New Georgia.

New Planes:

  Mitsubishi A6M

  Mitsubishi F1M2

  Aichi D3A1

  Mitsubishi G4M 

  P-40 Tomahawk/Warhawk/Kittyhawk

  P-400 (P-39 export)

  F4F Wildcat

  Lockheed Hudson

  Collectors: Nakajima Ki-43 & SBD Dauntless

 

Italy: Battle of Anzio

Map starts South of Rome & includes Gustav Line.

New Planes:

  Spitfire Mk VIII

  P-40F/K

  A-36/P-51A

  Bristol Beaufighter

  Macchi MC.200

  Macchi C.205

  Reggiane Re.2005

  Savoia-Marchetti SM.79

  Collectors: Fiat G.55 & P-38F

 

Western Europe: Battle of the Rhine

Map combines part of Normandy map (SE England) & extends to targets in Bodenplatte map (Western Germany).

New Planes:

  B-17E/F/G (AI)

  Lancaster (AI)

  Spitfire XVI

  P-47M

  Bf 109 G-6/AS

  Bf 109 G-10

  Bf 109 G-14/AS

  FW Ta-152 H1

  Collectors: Me 163 & P-38L

 

The big question will not be which of these choices we are most interested in, but which of these will bring the biggest profit for the company. This is, after all, a business decision 1C executives have likely already made.

They said many times only japan airplane they have data on level needed is Zero, so your 1st option is no go. Also if they go to PTO its Midway first ,they already spend money and time to prepare for that, no way you go pacific first time in so long and you dont count on apeal of carriers.

 

2nd option is not posible as by that time all thouse italian airplanes you listed were send far north in italy, and german airplanes that we already have in game were on frontlines. If its italy then sicily timeline or max salerno if you plan to have italian airplanes, so historical anzio with what you listed would be to big map, basicly whole italy would have to be included.

 

3rd option would bancrupt the company, also you cant have 152 or 163 with map not having berlin on it if you go from west to east. So just map would have to be mutch mutch bigger then existing maps and its heavy populated with citys, even bobp map dont have rurh represented to make map playable, if you have big bombers they have to build it.

 

What is most likely to be next is Battle of Channal, map like first proposed for BoN, and airplanes from 1942 and 1943 so you can fined 5 axis airplanes for 10 plane DLC. West front is popular and this would be easy option to make after longest and most demanding build BoN DLC is. Only thing easyer would be Battle of Poland 45, but because of war thats highly unlikely, if its med then only good option is Sicily+Malta 43.

EDIT:

Battle of Channel 42/43: 

Spitfire IXc,P-38G,Beaufighter XIc,B-25C,B-26B vs Bf-109G5,Fw-190A4,Ju-87D5,Ju-188A,Do-217K

Battle of Sicily 43:

A-36A,P-38F,P-40L,Spitfire VIII,Beaufighter VIc vs MC.205,Re.2002,Re.2005,SM.79,Ju-88A17

 

Edited June 16, 2022 by CountZero

[Feldgrun]

4 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Also, @Feldgrun, they're all good suggestions, but does that really mean they need to be big-fonted suggestions?

 

It was typed on my phone, so I didn't see the font until I got on my PC.

[Enceladus828]

5 hours ago, CountZero said:

They said many times only japan airplane they have data on level needed is Zero, so your 1st option is no go. Also if they go to PTO its Midway first ,they already spend money and time to prepare for that, no way you go pacific first time in so long and you dont count on apeal of carriers.

With the Pacific, especially the first installment, there doesn't need to be a 5v5 (flyable) plane set. A 3v3 or a 8 aircraft plane set with 4 each or 5 American, 3 Japanese is totally fine. Also, the FM/DMs only really matter for fighter aircraft like the Zero, the rest like the Val, Kate and Pete don't matter as much. Therefore, you have all the aircraft you need. The only thing greatly preventing a plane from being made is if there is a total lack of documentation for the cockpit or if a lot of educated guesswork is required very early on and much of the work after relies on this guess; and the company would risk bankruptcy starting over if their educated guesses were wrong.

 

As suggested, a Battle of Guadalcanal and a Battle of the Coral Sea installment would allow for a mainly land based battle which would be much less boring than simply flying endless distances over nothing but water and only encountering the enemy once in a while and during major naval battles, and would also have a Carrier Battle -- Coral Sea.

[I.JG3_CDRSEABEE]

Since jets are getting figured out...Korea!

[GSP_6909]

I've been watching videos of the G-10 on YouTube, and quite frankly; I am now obsessed with this plane, and would give my left nut for it to be in the sim. (metaphorically speaking; of course) On a serious note: It would pretty much complete the list of 109's.