Game version 4.706 discussion: Ar 234 and B-26

[Hotaru_Ito]

9 hours ago, newbravado said:

I clipped the top of a tree, the plane shuddered and threw off my aim the P47 got away. I thought my wing would be ripped off.

Their was no visible damage. Good job on the updated physics model.

 

Sounds like an improvement to me. In real life treetops and branches bend and break, you can actually clip them with a plane sometimes and not have your wing ripped off. I think I read where Yeager did it on purpose once. It'd be nifty if it left a nice dent in your wing when that happens, but it's not like the game is totally unplayable if it doesn't.

 

Now, if you flew right through the trunk with no damage, or crashed into an invisible tree, that'd be different. But trimming the treetops not necessarily meaning instant death is fine by me.

[Guster]

2 hours ago, Hotaru_Ito said:

 

Sounds like an improvement to me. In real life treetops and branches bend and break, you can actually clip them with a plane sometimes and not have your wing ripped off. I think I read where Yeager did it on purpose once. It'd be nifty if it left a nice dent in your wing when that happens, but it's not like the game is totally unplayable if it doesn't.

 

Now, if you flew right through the trunk with no damage, or crashed into an invisible tree, that'd be different. But trimming the treetops not necessarily meaning instant death is fine by me.

 

In a real life emergency you can even use trees to slow down a plane.

 

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1991/12/28/jet-plunges-from-sky-129-survive/

[migmadmarine]

It was a thing in the past at least, I've clipped the fringes of trees and gotten away with it before. Might have been borked for a while?

[Stickshaker]

The Ar-234 is fantastic! Thank you for your hard work. We never had an Ar-234 like this one. For those who want to know more about this plane: Richard Smith and Eddie Creek wrote a very good book aboutr it (Monogram Publications).

[KiwiMcG]

Really enjoying the AR234, great and well made, even down to the Hermann 1,000 bomb dynamics. 

[Regingrave-]

18.06.2022 в 08:08, XIV_Adam-1-4 сказал:

Is anyone else having trouble removing the jet booster's?

I press the key bind and only the one on the left wing drops off. I'm then stuck with one jet booster on my right wing. Strange.

Everything seems fine for me. Does it happen every time or occasionally? Is there a specific way to reproduce that situation?

[jollyjack]

I must overlooked it; where and what are the jet booster key mapping functions addressing the AR234?

[Haza]

3 hours ago, Regingrave said:

Everything seems fine for me. Does it happen every time or occasionally? Is there a specific way to reproduce that situation?

 

This has happened to me post refuel and rearm on MP. The Stbd jet booster appears to remain fixed whereas the port booster appears to be missing, post getting airbourne.

 

However, there doesn't appear to be any handling issues, so not sure if just a graphic bug. Hope this helps!

[firdimigdi]

52 minutes ago, jollyjack said:

I must overlooked it; where and what are the jet booster key mapping functions addressing the AR234?

Towards the bottom of the list of engine controls.

[migmadmarine]

They are also addressed in the pilot's notes for the aircraft

[jollyjack]

2 hours ago, Firdimigdi said:

Towards the bottom of the list of engine controls.

 

Thnx, now i hope they work on the Gotha too ...

PS how do you land that thing? Flying is piece of cake, but L-Alt + D for the chute does not seem to work however it's set in Key commands

Edited June 20, 2022 by jollyjack

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, jollyjack said:

PS how do you land that thing? Flying is piece of cake, but L-Alt + D for the chute does not seem to work however it's set in Key commands

It takes a few seconds before they deploy. If during those few seconds, you get impatient and press Alt-D a second time, they detach. I've had this happen the first time I tried them too ?

[jollyjack]

2 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

It takes a few seconds before they deploy. If during those few seconds, you get impatient and press Alt-D a second time, they detach. I've had this happen the first time I tried them too ?

 

Just found out the doggone thang was not loaded, and so the AR ran off the strip on and on forever, even with engines switched off. Good fun, and mind the cows.

[LukeFF]

On 6/16/2022 at 1:38 PM, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Is the button for the Ar234 landing gear correctly animated? When gears out the button shows Ein (in)

When it’s inside the button is on Aus (out).

Or I misunderstand something?

 

Good catch - it's supposed to be the other way:

 

[Regingrave-]

20 часов назад, Haza сказал:

This has happened to me post refuel and rearm on MP. The Stbd jet booster appears to remain fixed whereas the port booster appears to be missing, post getting airbourne.

 

However, there doesn't appear to be any handling issues, so not sure if just a graphic bug. Hope this helps!

Thank you for the details! If this issue happens after rearmament, then it's a known bug, we're getting it solved for the hotfix.

[KiwiMcG]

18 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

It takes a few seconds before they deploy. If during those few seconds, you get impatient and press Alt-D a second time, they detach. I've had this happen the first time I tried them too ?

Releasing the drogue chute is a last resort for pursuing aircraft too ? 

[Regingrave-]

16.06.2022 в 23:38, JG4_Moltke1871 сказал:

Is the button for the Ar234 landing gear correctly animated? When gears out the button shows Ein (in)

When it’s inside the button is on Aus (out).

Or I misunderstand something?

Thank you for the catch, will be fixed.

[Ptolemy_Soter]

The B-26 is amazing.

I really hope to see the same level of quality being applied to other bombers already in game.

Namely He 111s, Pe 2s and Ju 88 A-4.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

On 6/21/2022 at 12:26 PM, Regingrave said:

Thank you for the catch, will be fixed.

I find a bit more. About the Auto Pilot. I think you mixed up the elevator and rudder buttons. About the yaw I am not sure, I have to make one more test… because the button „Kurs“ is switch than…. Can I set exactly the course with this button? 

[Photomatt]

Awesome additions! I'm new/old hat to this game, having played 1946 a long time ago. My question, (and please forgive me if I am in the wrong area in the forum here), is how can we take recon photos in the Ar234 and see said results? Would be kind of neat to do so. 

 

Blue Skies!^

[SYN_Ricky]

47 minutes ago, Photomatt said:

Awesome additions! I'm new/old hat to this game, having played 1946 a long time ago. My question, (and please forgive me if I am in the wrong area in the forum here), is how can we take recon photos in the Ar234 and see said results? Would be kind of neat to do so. 

 

Blue Skies!^

Photographic reconnaissance feature is not yet implemented but will come later...

[JG4_Moltke1871]

On 6/21/2022 at 12:26 PM, Regingrave said:

Thank you for the catch, will be fixed.

Finally

Autopilot on/off is ok

Push pitch on/off the button for roll (quer) move should be Höhe (high).

Push roll on/off should move quer not high.

Push yaw makes the Kurs button switch. That’s ok because I can set the course. Just Yaw sounds a bit confusing ?

If I drop all three bombs with my bomb sight in the bomb sigh one bomb remaining (incorrect). On the Bomb panel all bombs left correctly.

[IckyATLAS]

I had imagined a hotfix was coming, but as we reach the end of the month, maybe a little more than a hotfix may come in a week or two...

?

[danielprates]

On 6/19/2022 at 6:24 AM, Hotaru_Ito said:

. I think I read where Yeager did it on purpose once

 

I read that story too. He got chewed by his superior officer because when questioned about the damage, he lied saying he hit a bird. The other guy retorted "well it must have been sitting on the nest then" since there were wood chips embeded in the wing.

[ECV56_Diskey]

I like to say is amazing at this moment this sim... all the work and the evolution is great. Seen the B-26... all the detail putting in it, like how the crew bail out ... first the front compartement and then the rear part... 

The two jet plan; first the 262 and know the Arado 234... are beutiful...

The JUNO engine start procedure, with the aux Riedel 2-strokes engine... super immersive, and i like to say perhaps in the future can add a mechanical pulling the rope.

[BritishDragon]

 

On 6/20/2022 at 9:36 AM, Regingrave said:

Everything seems fine for me. Does it happen every time or occasionally? Is there a specific way to reproduce that situation?

 

On 6/20/2022 at 12:44 PM, Haza said:

 

This has happened to me post refuel and rearm on MP. The Stbd jet booster appears to remain fixed whereas the port booster appears to be missing, post getting airbourne.

 

However, there doesn't appear to be any handling issues, so not sure if just a graphic bug. Hope this helps!

 

I just re-binded the jettison booster's to a button that had no other actions and it worked. But yeah, it happened every time I pressed the jettison booster button after all of my take offs. Only the left one would release. Consistently. I then put the input on my gaming mouse '1' key, and it's working fine now. 

 

I just downloaded Nvidia Profile Inspector so I can now enable re-sizable bar for IL-2 and anything else! Quite exciting! 

I will ask in another section though. I play in VR as well.

Edited June 25, 2022 by XIV_Adam-1-4

[Kurfurst]

Any chance to see the B-26 flyable one day? Perhaps as a collector, I understand development needs to be paid by some means.

[CountZero]

2 hours ago, VO101Kurfurst said:

Any chance to see the B-26 flyable one day? Perhaps as a collector, I understand development needs to be paid by some means.

Im sure its gona be flyable for next DLC, B-25C, B-26B, Beaufighter MkXIc, Spitfire Mk.IXc and P-38G-1 , battle of channal 43 here we come

[EAF19_Marsh]

On 6/25/2022 at 8:30 PM, CountZero said:

Im sure its gona be flyable for next DLC, B-25C, B-26B, Beaufighter MkXIc, Spitfire Mk.IXc and P-38G-1 , battle of channal 43 here we come

 

I hope not. Low risk, perhaps, but arguably low revenue.

[Fritz_X]

Usually I'm not someone in favor for conspiracies and theories resulting from those, but...

 

When selecting either the B-25 or the B-26 from the plane list in QMB, both are labeled as 'Collector' when hovering over them with the cursor. Has it always been this way, or did it change with one of the latest patches?

 

For some reason I am quite sure that the B-25 was labeled 'Battle of Bodenplatte' before. But maybe my brain is just playing tricks on me...

Edited June 27, 2022 by Fritz_X

[Blitzen]

Slightly OT but not much: I was surprised & delighted to see a formation of B-26’s escorted in a P-38 scripted campaign.It was pretty cool to see them shuffles into this older scripted campaign!

[sevenless]

10 hours ago, Fritz_X said:

Usually I'm not someone in favor for conspiracies and theories resulting from those, but...

 

When selecting either the B-25 or the B-26 from the plane list in QMB, both are labeled as 'Collector' when hovering over them with the cursor. Has it always been this way, or did it change with one of the latest patches?

 

For some reason I am quite sure that the B-25 was labeled 'Battle of Bodenplatte' before. But maybe my brain is just playing tricks on me...

 

Maybe a bug, or maybe a subtle hint that they plan to make both AI planes flyable? Which would be great. Who knows.

 

[Ptolemy_Soter]

40 minutes ago, sevenless said:

Maybe a bug, or maybe a subtle hint that they plan to make both AI planes flyable? Which would be great. Who knows.

I would love to fly these planes !

They put so much work in the B-26 I'm pretty sure it will be flyable.

This is an USAAF aircraft, documentation is abundant and partly digitized.

 

[76IAP-Black]

Same here, the B-26 is more interesting to me than the 25, it was made many times before, the the 26 remained unflyable.

[Fritz_X]

9 hours ago, 76IAP-Black said:

Same here, the B-26 is more interesting to me than the 25, it was made many times before, the the 26 remained unflyable.

 

Again I'm not sure if my mind is tricking me, but I think that Microsoft created a flyable B-26 for CFS 3. Not that I'd ever recommend this piece of software...

 

I have to agree with you though, the new GB B-26 looks nothing short of amazing. If the developers are willing to give us both the B-25 and the B-26, I'd buy both of them in a heart beat. But if they could only give us one and made us choose, I'd always pick the latter.

 

Even though the B-25 would fit into a wider array of scenarios, like the Pacific (which actually isn't a favorite of mine...), the B-26 has some kind of 'magic' to it the B-25 simply hasn't. For me of course, that is.

[76IAP-Black]

4 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

 

Again I'm not sure if my mind is tricking me, but I think that Microsoft created a flyable B-26 for CFS 3. Not that I'd ever recommend this piece of software...

 

I have to agree with you though, the new GB B-26 looks nothing short of amazing. If the developers are willing to give us both the B-25 and the B-26, I'd buy both of them in a heart beat. But if they could only give us one and made us choose, I'd always pick the latter.

 

Even though the B-25 would fit into a wider array of scenarios, like the Pacific (which actually isn't a favorite of mine...), the B-26 has some kind of 'magic' to it the B-25 simply hasn't. For me of course, that is.

I had  CFS3 in my mind as i was typing it, but wasn't shure.

The b-25 is in a way iconic and versatile, that it was simply made many times before. In my case, i like to have it flyable too, but it is like "was there, flown it, need something new" as i recon my Simcareer in the past 25 years.

That's why i love the plane setup of Normandie, i don't care if a plane was inferior to any other opponent, but i like to fly it. Fight in it and simply enjoy it!  

[BMA_FlyingShark]

6 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

Even though the B-25 would fit into a wider array of scenarios, like the Pacific (which actually isn't a favorite of mine...), the B-26 has some kind of 'magic' to it the B-25 simply hasn't.

Didn't they use the B-26 in the Pacific too?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[MajorMagee]

2 hours ago, FlyingShark said:

Didn't they use the B-26 in the Pacific too?

 

Have a nice day.

 

Yes, CFS3 has flyable B-26 bombers in a wide variety of examples, including the torpedo bombers used at Midway. 

[BlitzPig_EL]

B26s were used early in the New Guinea campaign.

 

[Art-J]

One has to remember that Marauders flown by 22nd and 38th BG over SWPA were early models with different wing, vertical stab, engine cowlings, tail gunner station and myriad of smaller things. Same for Aleutian and Midway ones. Would require a major rework of 3D model by the devs. Maybe let's hope first for the current version to become flyable someday rather than venturing deeper into fantasy land ;).

 

On the other hand, Navy's JM-1 version was much closer to "ours" and it flew over Pacific till the end of the war... not in the combat sorties, though.