senseispcc Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Great pictures. And now, I cannot wait to have all this on my PC. Wonderful, I should also write I cannot wait to fly along those cost lines. Thanks!
354thFG_Leifr Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AKA_Ramstein said: Fromt he times I saw the North Atlantic water, the Channel Water, etc.. it was cold dark and uninviting... yet the pictures look more like a warm blueish inviting water... The seas surrounding the British Isles are fairly grim most of the time, grey-brown through to dark blue murkiness, but they can occasionally be a nice brighter colour. I think the Channel is looking a little too tropical and calm in these pictures personally, but it's great to see none the less. Cliffs of Dover did a really good job of simulating the Channel (and subsequent Kanalkrankheit!), especially with the whitecaps and the choppiness of the waters. Edited June 10, 2022 by Leifr 4
ScotsmanFlyingscotsman Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 That channel looks very nice, rarely crossed it on a sunny day, coming into Gatwick, got put on hold over the channel and had a few minutes to see just how 'short' the distance looks and wonder how many wrecks both naval and aircraft we were passing over, sobering. Excellent effort
Feldgrun Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Leifr said: The seas surrounding the British Isles... can occasionally be a nice brighter colour. I think the Channel is looking a little too tropical and calm in these pictures personally... It would look nicer with palm trees. ?
354thFG_Drewm3i-VR Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, AKA_Ramstein said: Fromt he times I saw the North Atlantic water, the Channel Water, etc.. it was cold dark and uninviting... yet the pictures look more like a warm blueish inviting water... In summer, the water can be almost turquoise at times. In winter it can appear almost black.
ACG_Ginger Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Looks great and can't wait to fly this map, we have big plans for our campaigns going forward. One question, are we going to have some sort of "pilot fate" change? with this map most missions will involve flying over the channel and at the moment if you bail or ditch over water you will lose your pilot. Not the biggest issue as we have our own "check your fate" program , but on public servers it would be nice. Keep up the good work. 4
ITAF_Rani Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 This map of the Channel will see great battles between BF 109 F4 JG26 and RAF Spitfire MKV....a lot of fun ahead 6 2
Avimimus Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vortice said: Why are there trees on the beach in several locations? I have never seen such a thing in real life. I noticed that too. If you want to get really paranoid: We haven't seen any pictures of Bocage hedges in Normandy Seriously though, I actually pity the devs a bit - there is so much more knowledge in the English speaking world about England (and Normandy), so many more available references that people will inevitably find details to be picky about. I know that I'll look the Shakespear Cliffs coal mines beside Dover... check to see if the track layout for Ventnor on the Isle of Wight is accurate to the Ordnance Land Survey maps... and do a detailed examination of Dieppe (comparing it to aerial photographs)... Honestly, I'll be surprised if any of those details are correct - but I'll still look. So I'll apologise in advance. I hope the Dev's will know deep down that their map is a work of art, beautiful, that we appreciate the change to fly over the Channel (in any form and to any level of detail), and that we appreciate the underlying work (or, at least, that we should). 29 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said: Looking very good, Im excited to finally fly over the channel in the Great Battles franchise! I know it's still work in progress, but if I may make a suggestion, would it be possible to hide some of the generic fields in some key spots? In the example below it just breaks some immersion and highlights that the airfield is a decal over a generic landscape texture. I hope that as it gets closer to release, these details are ironed out and make the map blend more naturally. One caveat though: I was talking with some people who model British railways here (almost all of whom grew up in the U.K.) and they were saying that up till the 1960s a lot of farmers had to use every piece of their land in order to be viable, so they'd farm the margins (e.g. not just use linear ploughings, but also go around the circumference, and plant small areas of their property etc.) So I'm not sure how inaccurate this is. There might be allotment or victory gardens near airfields in some cases etc. However, I gather that the sea mists are a bit of an issue? That crops can't grow right near the cliffs/coasts? So that might also be a problem. Edited June 10, 2022 by Avimimus
Enceladus828 Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Channel Map is looking awesome! Can't wait to fly over it when it's released. I really hope that in the update when the Channel Map is released or the update after that pilots will no longer be sinking like a stone and instantly dying when parachuting into water ? 1 1 4
Stiggles Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Those cliffs look really good! This might be getting into the nitty gritty, but are they part of the map geometry or a "building"?
Frequent_Flyer Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Looks gorgeous! Very encouraging that it will be released later this summer.
Jade_Monkey Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Stiggles said: Those cliffs look really good! This might be getting into the nitty gritty, but are they part of the map geometry or a "building"? Based on the Kuban cliffs and their similarity, I'd say map geometry.
76IAP-Black Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) All is needed now, is a water rework with partial transparent surface. And a complete rework of the watersurface itself, waves, reflection, colour and so on. Similar to the sky and Cloud updates ? Edited June 11, 2022 by 76IAP-Black 3
Missionbug Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 Great work on the cliffs guys, they are impressive. I look forward to taking a flight over a little piece of home. Take care and be safe. Wishing you all the very best, Pete.
DD_Friar Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Cliffs are looking really nice. When I build my missions I often like to think out side of the box a bit, to that end I was wondering, will there be places along the UK coast line where I can "load" tanks onto landing craft (even if I have to "frankenstein" a low bridge ramp on the front of a Landing craft) ? I am planning a series of missions and would like to start with players putting their tanks on to the craft, cut to a video of boats crossing the channel, then pick up again with the craft on the beeches. Absolutely loving the Mossie by the way! Edited June 11, 2022 by DD_Friar 1
SidtheGit Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 Thanks for the update. Great to see the cliff work, they look very good. Looking forward to flying the Ar234 VERY much....!!
senseispcc Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 I have a major problems since the last update from Windows11 version 25136,1000 the game crash the pc after loading this game! Does someone have the same problem and did this person find a solution?!?
firdimigdi Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 7 hours ago, ACG_Pike said: How hard can cliffs be? Not sure if it varies by given name, tbh.
Avimimus Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 12 hours ago, 76IAP-Black said: All is needed now, is a water rework with partial transparent surface. And a complete rework of the watersurface itself, waves, reflection, colour and so on. Similar to the sky and Cloud updates ? Honestly, I'd like it if they just included waterline hits doing more damage (or had a simple flooding calculation for ships). Make the Molins gun useful and AP rockets! I think if they redid the graphics and wakes again I'd start wanting a player controlled torpedo boat... so best to avoid the route ? 1
tbauchot Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 Very promising work, the pictures are very beautiful. Thank you very much ! However, a few remarks to help you. Regarding the colors of the water: They vary from dark yellow ochre, to emerald green, passing through turquoise blue, depending on the sunshine and the depth. (the sandy beaches are very very long in the north of France. you have to cross at least 500 m to reach the water at low tide, and then go at least another 100 m to be able to swim ! ) There are noticeable color differences between "le Cap Gris nez" and "le Cap Blanc nez" (hence their names!) and their beaches are fundamentally different in appearance. And finally, the most important: there are no trees or grass at the foot of the cliffs, and even less on the beaches ! This is a recurring problem of the IL-2 series, and it would be very kind if you could solve this annoyance on the Normandy map. Regards, Thierry. ? 2
easterling77 Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 I see myself on the release day just peacfully flying along this lovely seeside with a big smile on my face ?
BornToBattle Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 Increases my thoughts on the next GB series to be BoB, I mean look how much will already be in place. 2
BlitzPig_EL Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 Oh God no... Been there done that, for far too long with Cliffs. We need to go to the Med/North Africa, or to somewhere in the Pacific, with or without aircraft carriers. 1 12
Trooper117 Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 Can't see it being the Pacific due to reasons already explained by Jason... won't be anything that will be treading on the toes of CloD/North Africa etc. The only other thing that's been mentioned in the past is a desire to do Korea at some point... so there you are, Korea it is! 3
Bonnot Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 22 hours ago, easterling77 said: I see myself on the release day just peacfully flying along this lovely seeside with a big smile on my face ? All the same,as these pictures are really splendid...even if not exactly Channel grey .... But I have a bad question ( sorry if misplaced here...) How much storage space will be added to IL 2 on HD ???? Today, I'm about 75 Go without any mods, after removing all records and screenshots...that looks incredible !?
Vishnu Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Trooper117 said: Can't see it being the Pacific due to reasons already explained by Jason... won't be anything that will be treading on the toes of CloD/North Africa etc. The only other thing that's been mentioned in the past is a desire to do Korea at some point... so there you are, Korea it is! My money is on Italy/Sicily. 1 3
357th_KW Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 Battle of Britain (or Battle of France) would be great, and would really round out the Western front. But I’d rather see a change of scenery for the next expansion - the Mediterranean or the Pacific. The IL-2 color palette could really use some sand and blue water. 3
DBFlyguy Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BornToBattle said: Increases my thoughts on the next GB series to be BoB, I mean look how much will already be in place. The Battle of Britain is known for large swirling dogfights with lots of aircraft... do you really see that happening in this current iteration of the Great Battles engine ? 3 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said: Oh God no... Been there done that, for far too long with Cliffs. We need to go to the Med/North Africa, or to somewhere in the Pacific, with or without aircraft carriers. This is the way. Edited June 12, 2022 by DBFlyguy
Enceladus828 Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trooper117 said: Can't see it being the Pacific due to reasons already explained by Jason As I stated in this thread, the FM/DMs for planes like the Val and the Kate don't really matter as much because as they were not fighters, plus Jason said they have enough resources to make a Zero so with that you have all the Japanese planes you need for an early Pacific battle like Guadalcanal. 6 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said: Oh God no... Been there done that, for far too long with Cliffs. We need to go to the Med/North Africa, or to somewhere in the Pacific, with or without aircraft carriers. Content wise (aircraft and ships), what would an IL-2 GBs North Africa installment -- released as the next installment after BoN -- have in it that would make every single person always play the IL-2 GBs version and not Desert Wings-Tobruk? Depending on when the Pilot Career starts to when it ends and what ships are included, there would be people who would still go back to DW-T because of aircraft and/or ships not in the IL-2 GBs version. It makes more sense and would be far more profitable if the devs went to Sicily or the Pacific. The only IL-2 GBs North Africa you would see in the near future would be an El Alamein TC installment which I would totally buy. Edited June 12, 2022 by Enceladus 1
BlitzPig_EL Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 I'm fine with Malta, Crete, Italy. I really want New Guinea, or China though. 7
Soilworker Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Enceladus said: Content wise (aircraft and ships), what would an IL-2 GBs North Africa installment -- released as the next installment after BoN -- have in it that would make every single person always play the IL-2 GBs version and not Desert Wings-Tobruk? Depending on when the Pilot Career starts to when it ends and what ships are included, there would be people who would still go back to DW-T because of aircraft and/or ships not in the IL-2 GBs version. Perhaps I'm in the minority here but I'll never play any CloD titles, even if they bring out VR support, IL-2 is enough for me and that I don't play as much as should (what with other hobbies in the balance) so I personally would love a North Africa title (not as much as the Pacific mind you). 4
I./JG1_Baron Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 8:56 PM, ITAF_Rani said: This map of the Channel will see great battles between BF 109 F4 JG26 and RAF Spitfire MKV....a lot of fun ahead You forgot about the Fw-190A-3. ? I look forward to landing in Dieppe in 1942 ? 4
jeanba Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, I./JG1_Baron said: You forgot about the Fw-190A-3. ? I look forward to landing in Dieppe in 1942 ? I am not sure Spitfie MkV will find it funny 1
easterling77 Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 I hope some talented one will make a Dieppe SC? 2
Rodwonder Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 1941 to 1943 in the west is my favorite part of WW2 aviation... 21 minutes ago, I./JG1_Baron said: You forgot about the Fw-190A-3. ? I look forward to landing in Dieppe in 1942 ?
I./JG1_Baron Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jeanba said: I am not sure Spitfie MkV will find it funny Spitfire may not, but JG26 will be thrilled? Overall, the map of Normandy greatly expands the possibilities for IL2. If we had machines from the beginning of the war (D.520, MB.152, Bf-109E-1 + E-3, Ju-87B, etc.) we could have a battle of France right away with a map.? Edited June 13, 2022 by I./JG1_Baron 3
kestrel79 Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 Even the most colder and non tropical waters and oceans can look bright blue in the right weather. Lake Michigan over by me has days in the Spring where it looks like the Caribbean.
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