War Thunder

[Bearcat]

WT also brought me into sims, I was with them since early closed beta (Though I always used full controls, none of that mouseaim bullcrap), I have since ventured out, tried my hand at other sims as well.

 

The thing about WT that is mind-boggling is that they basically promised us something in early closed beta and then went complete 180* U-turn.

They promised us realism, but now they dont even care about simmers and realism (be it in DMs, FMs, Gameplay mechanism, content). They blatantly made it more and more into a arcade game the last 3 or so months.

 

At first, people said that they will add in the realism, the engine is not finished yet, things will be added, realism was key to their priorities, and they still maintain that, but it is utter hogwash.

 

BoS will be fun in that regard, an infinitely better sim experience.

 

I do think WT was good though, met many fellow simmers and likeminded people, awesome friends, and some really experienced simmers who have taught me much.

 

See you in the barren skies over Russia

 

 

Have to agree with KarayaOne's sentiments on the 180, the broken promises, the stonewalling. But there seems to be a few posters who have jumped ship to here after seeing the mysterious BOS mentioned, so I guess the name drop campaign is working. I am expecting a WOT style bans to show up soon for namedropping, especially since WT is looking more and more like WOT everyday.

 

Do yourselves a favor and grab 1946 while you wait.. if you haven't already.. Even if you pre ordered BoS. The only thing WT has over IL2 is the graphics and fluff .. in every other respect the 12 year old IL2 is a better product..

 

Kong I don't know what you mean about WOT style bans here .. but we don't ban people for talking about other products, we actually welcome it and have a great deal of confidence in our product.. what we do not tolerate is slandering, name calling, of other products or their developers..

[kongxinga]

Do yourselves a favor and grab 1946 while you wait.. if you haven't already.. Even if you pre ordered BoS. The only thing WT has over IL2 is the graphics and fluff .. in every other respect the 12 year old IL2 is a better product..

 

Kong I don't know what you mean about WOT style bans here .. but we don't ban people for talking about other products, we actually welcome it and have a great deal of confidence in our product.. what we do not tolerate is slandering, name calling, of other products or their developers..

I have 1946, and play a lot offline. It is better modelled overall, but I play vanilla and there are some strangeness with some planes, which I supposed mods may have fixed. I am really pumped about DCS ww2 because of the potential detailed modelled P-47. As a wargamer I mostly "flew" it in Over the Reich, and loved how when well flown it could down jets. I have DCS Warthog, and am already thinking of ThunderBolt (modern) versus ThunderBolts (swarm) matches. Call it airquake, but come on some people want to do it right?

 

Back when WT were still trying to woo the simmers, some of the migrants from World of Tanks (or alpha World of Planes) said that World of Tanks was handing out bans if anyone mentioned WarThunder. The usual exchange was someone complaining about something in WOT, usually the arcade simplifications such as cloaking fields, and someone mentioning how Warthunder might do that area better, then the post disappears and the poster is banned. Not sure if by we if you mean Battle of Stalingrad or WT, because iirc you are a mod in both places right? I would think anyone confident about their product would always welcome comparisons with the competition, so how WOT is acting is very strange, and I hope WT does not go that way.

Edited September 13, 2013 by kongxinga

[Bf-110]

Well,I guess I already once said I like to fly almost arcade (*flaming shield on*) so I greatly enjoy WT.The graphics are awesome (I only have IL2 for reference of WWII graphics),it's pretty cool to fly with against mixed nations planes and the sounds are ok.

BUT,as people said before,you can't fly all the planes you want from the beginning.Also,there's no SP support.And last,but not least,many planes still lack their cockpits,wich is quite disappointing.Gunners have no first person view either,making things even more "challenging".

 

About the sounds,for what I've heard on the LaGG-3 vídeo released,BoS sounds are REALLY LOUD.At WT the engines are quieter.

 

And no need to worry.I don't believe WT will kill BoS or future IL2 titles.

Edited September 13, 2013 by Bf-110

[knipplez]

I thought it was going to be a ton of fun.  I loaded up, and it was way to "arcadey".

 

I tried the full realism mode, and had to wait like 20 mins just to get in a game, still felt very arcade-ish.

 

I also didnt enjoy grinding to another plane.

 

Lasted about an hour, I prob wont play again

[Pizzicato]

The really important takeaway from this thread is that people are "graduating" from WT to BoS. As a community, we need to make sure that we're welcoming them and supporting them through what can be a pretty daunting learning curve.

 

The more people that follow us to BoS, the better. Even if they "just" want to play with every single helper turned on, it's more revenue for 777 and a brand new audience that will potentially get more "hardcore" as they get more familiar with the sim.

[SOLIDKREATE]

The really important takeaway from this thread is that people are "graduating" from WT to BoS. As a community, we need to make sure that we're welcoming them and supporting them through what can be a pretty daunting learning curve.

 

The more people that follow us to BoS, the better. Even if they "just" want to play with every single helper turned on, it's more revenue for 777 and a brand new audience that will potentially get more "hardcore" as they get more familiar with the sim.

 

 

It's why I per-ordered BoS. I have graduated, I feel. WT will always be there for me as sort a Call of Duty type game when I just want to fly around all crazy and do impossible maneuvers. It's almost the same thing with me. I played the CoD series and then moved on to ArmA, ArmA II and them ArmA III. My only wish is that VBS2 is released to the public minus all of the secret info of course.

 

I sure can't wait for IL2: Battle of Berlin in 2017 (fingers crossed).

[Bf-110]

Oh,I forgot to mention the game is rich in bs.Like being one shot by underarmed planes and so.

Edited September 14, 2013 by Bf-110

[Wolger]

Actually I'm still playing FRB mode and it gives me a great amount fun. I love flight sims, WT FRB is the first serious sim in many years. Actually now, the queue waiting is not long and you also can try other nations' planes not just USSR vs Germany. Sometimes I'd be getting few games full of human players.

 

WT was the reason I had my next major interest pointed to BoS so gotta thank it for that (first played it in Feb 2013 but found it too arcadish and gave it second chance last month after getting my flightstick and headtracker and end up liking it now lol). I didn't played 1942, missed the whole ride so I'd love to experience it again.

[II./JG27_Rich]

Unfortunetaly such games are the ones wich bring the money

I haven't read the whole page but I totally agree with Foobar here. I tried War Thunder a few months ago because like many loved the look of it but that was about it. Anyway, who put's angels wings on a tropical 109? Not one single member in this forum I hope  If you've seen any War Thunder videos you'll know what I mean.

Edited September 18, 2013 by II./JG27Richie

[Bearcat]

The really important takeaway from this thread is that people are "graduating" from WT to BoS. As a community, we need to make sure that we're welcoming them and supporting them through what can be a pretty daunting learning curve.

 

The more people that follow us to BoS, the better. Even if they "just" want to play with every single helper turned on, it's more revenue for 777 and a brand new audience that will potentially get more "hardcore" as they get more familiar with the sim.

 

 

+1 .. When I first started simming back in 2001 in CFS1 offline I flew with no cockpit.. even online.. because it wasn't a server side setting.. It was only after I got into IL2 that I started flying closed pit.. but I always like the most realistic (for what the term is worth in a flight sim..) flight settings I could. I never liked the auto rudder etc stuff.. I still use unlimited ammo though when in QMs offline to practice my gunnery.. I just shoot as if I had limited ammo.

[kestrel79]

I played some Warthunder this past weekend. I had a blast, it had been a while. As long as you play FRB mode it can be pretty fun for simmers.

 

Runs great on high graphics and 3 screens. Very immersive, feels like I'm in the plane with not much lower fps. Also the in game voip is really good. When flying with my brother online using Teamspeak it was pretty crackly. We used the new voip and it came through very clear. The new events mode could be pretty fun for people who want historic plane sets on maps.

[Alesia]

 

 

 

 

Kong I don't know what you mean about WOT style bans here

 

I broke the quote box but WG was banning anyone on the WOT forums that so much as referenced WT it was pretty bad for a while.

 

 

WT has it's ups and downs for sure but it is in constant development and is bound to change.  Biggest mistake you can make is rule something out when almost everything could change in the next patch.  The Events were a step in the right direction and I suspect that they will continue to drive more towards historical situations and realistic flight models as things go on as far as FRB is concerned.  That said WT is a great stepping stone with the FRB mode that still lets poeple keep on helpers like auto engine management (still can over heat and such though) while still giving the option to have full control over the engine if you have the set up to do that.  I know I don't   Being able to play almost any nation is pretty nice as well, gives variety.  I wouldn't be surprised if many people leaped from WT to BOS to get a more realistic sim, we just have to be helpful and understanding to the poeple making this transition. (many of which will probably reletivly new simmers.)

[J2_Trupobaw]

Out of curiosity, how does WT compare with Wings of Prey in terms of FMs / flying experience? I know one is MMO and other isn't . WoP planes handled pretty well for me, but they all handled identically except different stall speeds / loses of speed in turn, like flying the same plane with different loadouts. How did that change in WT? The games look pretty much the same, graphically, so I assume they are related in development. 

Edited October 2, 2013 by Trupobaw

[Alesia]

Out of curiosity, how does WT compare with Wings of Prey in terms of FMs / flying experience? I know one is MMO and other isn't . WoP planes handled pretty well for me, but they all handled identically except different stall speeds / loses of speed in turn, like flying the same plane with different loadouts. How did that change in WT? The games look pretty much the same, graphically, so I assume they are related in development. 

 

Most of the aircraft handle pretty differently in WT.  A 109G isn't going to handle like anything else but perhaps a series (109G series and so on)  I've yet to find two aircraft that fly the same except for maybe a few that have placeholder FMs but even then they tend to be different.

[Bearcat]

  Biggest mistake you can make is rule something out when almost everything could change in the next patch.  The Events were a step in the right direction and I suspect that they will continue to drive more towards historical situations and realistic flight models as things go on as far as FRB is concerned.

 

My biggest beef with WT is not the FMs and DMs but the way that it is run.. I am not a grind away kind of simmer.. and that is one thing that worries me about BoS .. it is the only thing that concerns me about it.. I don't have the time to unlock this and unlock that .. I'd rather just pay for it and use it.. My time is limited and I am not big on campaigns and do not want tio be forced into doing it that way because I just do not have the time.. I will find out soon enough how this will work in BoS.

[Alesia]

My biggest beef with WT is not the FMs and DMs but the way that it is run.. I am not a grind away kind of simmer.. and that is one thing that worries me about BoS .. it is the only thing that concerns me about it.. I don't have the time to unlock this and unlock that .. I'd rather just pay for it and use it.. My time is limited and I am not big on campaigns and do not want tio be forced into doing it that way because I just do not have the time.. I will find out soon enough how this will work in BoS.

I understand. I guess after playing so man MMOs (WoW, EVE) and WOT/WOWP Alpha/CBT/OBT the grind in WT seemed light weight as you could fly whatever aircraft you want to grind levels. If you are not conditioned to grinding though I can see how that would be a bit of a barrier to entry.

[Maico]

  Time for me to confess my sins.  I have been War Thundering for a couple of months now.  It all started with a 1.33 patch.  I looked at it and said to myself, "surely something this nice looking cant be realistic".  So I downloaded it and played.  A month later I was using Pay Pal to pay for stuff.  I can tell you now that WT has evolved.  The flight models are not easy cakewalks.  The action is very good and the game is FUN.  Yes there are some detractors like being chased in a 109 by an A-20G... Are you kidding me??  Or suddenly while flying a 109E4 you are up against a Bearcat..... WHAT?!?!  So it is not perfect but It is a nice game. 

  Bearcat, you and I think alike and I am with you on your comments.  I have better things to do with my time than play all day to unlock something.  IL2 was and still is the best sim as far as content and how it was run.  That ship has unfortunately sailed and I don't think we will ever see another flight sim like it. 

  The way RoF is run I believe is the best way.  Developers don't work for free and we get a new plane for less than dinner and a movie.  Hell, we get a new plane for about the price of a stadium hot dog and beer. 

  Don't write off WT.  There is a lot to be learned from this sim. 

[Alesia]

Time for me to confess my sins. I have been War Thundering for a couple of months now. It all started with a 1.33 patch. I looked at it and said to myself, "surely something this nice looking cant be realistic". So I downloaded it and played. A month later I was using Pay Pal to pay for stuff. I can tell you now that WT has evolved. The flight models are not easy cakewalks. The action is very good and the game is FUN. Yes there are some detractors like being chased in a 109 by an A-20G... Are you kidding me?? Or suddenly while flying a 109E4 you are up against a Bearcat..... WHAT?!?! So it is not perfect but It is a nice game.

Bearcat, you and I think alike and I am with you on your comments. I have better things to do with my time than play all day to unlock something. IL2 was and still is the best sim as far as content and how it was run. That ship has unfortunately sailed and I don't think we will ever see another flight sim like it.

The way RoF is run I believe is the best way. Developers don't work for free and we get a new plane for less than dinner and a movie. Hell, we get a new plane for about the price of a stadium hot dog and beer.

Don't write off WT. There is a lot to be learned from this sim.

I actually prefer the WT way of being able to test fly the premium aircraft before you commit to one but it's the same story mostly, put in 5-10 dollars and get a premium aircraft while still having the large free to fly trees. I lost interest in ROF because the two free aircraft don't seem good at all and it didn't motivate me to drop the $5 on unlocking a new aircraft.

 

And yes, I await the A-20G, my arch nemesis, is ultimately fixed. That and laser pointer gunners.

 

It makes me sad though when people bash on any online game these days though since they are continuously developed and can change almost over night from a single patch (or two). Don't rule anything out these days just because the current product is not to you liking.

[kestrel79]

I actually don't mind the "grind" in WT. It has more variety than an RPG game type of grind.

 

For example I'm trying to get to lvl 5 in US. I can choose to be a fighter and fly my Buffalo, or take my P40 for a spin. Or do I want to level up by doing some bombing? I can attach some torps to my PBY and hit the deck for some ships, or bomb from high up with some bombs. Or do I want to do some dive bombing? I can hop in my Dauntless. Do none of these sound appealing? Then I can switch to one of the other 4 countries and try to level up with their set of planes.

 

There's lots of variety and I really like that, it keeps it fun and fresh. This is especially needed in FRB at the moment because the maps are still pretty limited with not much variety compared to the other arcade modes right now.

 

Also as others have said this is a great game to get your friends into flight sims. It's free and can be controlled by a mouse. So there is minimal investment needed to play which is huge. Let's stop bashing this game and think of it as a gateway drug into our hobby.

[ST_ami7b5]

.... Let's stop bashing this game and think of it as a gateway drug into our hobby.

 

We must be very careful though not to  let the mouse-aim addiction spread over here

Edited October 3, 2013 by ami7b5

[Maico]

  Oh yes, I forgot to mention that I only fly FRB and mostly German.  However I do like the Japanese planes.  To me the grafix in this game are where it is at.  This should be the benchmark for any upcoming sim.  Gameplay wise, I prefer IL2. 

 

  That's it, I am off the soap box

 

Maico

[Alesia]

We must be very careful though not to  let the mouse-aim addiction spread over here

 

 

Addiction, or just the simplest, easiest to learn control method availible?  There is a difference....and I don't think anyone wants mouse aim anywhere near BOS, gamepads, maybe, mouse joy, maybe, mouse AIM?  Noooooooooooo

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Its the opposite of gateway it took players away from harder sims because there was an easier option.

[leitmotiv]

I actually don't mind the "grind" in WT. It has more variety than an RPG game type of grind.

 

For example I'm trying to get to lvl 5 in US. I can choose to be a fighter and fly my Buffalo, or take my P40 for a spin. Or do I want to level up by doing some bombing? I can attach some torps to my PBY and hit the deck for some ships, or bomb from high up with some bombs. Or do I want to do some dive bombing? I can hop in my Dauntless. Do none of these sound appealing? Then I can switch to one of the other 4 countries and try to level up with their set of planes.

 

There's lots of variety and I really like that, it keeps it fun and fresh. This is especially needed in FRB at the moment because the maps are still pretty limited with not much variety compared to the other arcade modes right now.

 

Also as others have said this is a great game to get your friends into flight sims. It's free and can be controlled by a mouse. So there is minimal investment needed to play which is huge. Let's stop bashing this game and think of it as a gateway drug into our hobby.

 

If i wonted to play with B-17G with guys online i just took it if server map had it, then after 1h i would like to play with P-47D and i would again just took it and play with it online, if after 15 min i got kiled and i wonted to do some low level ground attack with my Typhoon and 8xrockets i would just selected that airplane and loadout and would be able to do it immediately in online or offline missions same day i buyed that game, in normal old and most new air-sims.

And for all that i didnt have to grind my way for 10s or 100s of hours in airplanes i dont like to fly to be able to fly airplane i like (unlock it) or need. Or play some single mission campaigns to be able to use (unlock it) rockets on my Typhoon, leave experience leveling up and RPG elements as far away from simulations as possible, customers are mostly guys with jobs, kids and wifes and no time for that stuff, leave that for flying games not flying simulations.

Edited October 3, 2013 by Yaklover

[BMA_West]

My biggest beef with WT is not the FMs and DMs but the way that it is run.. I am not a grind away kind of simmer.. and that is one thing that worries me about BoS .. it is the only thing that concerns me about it.. I don't have the time to unlock this and unlock that .. I'd rather just pay for it and use it.. My time is limited and I am not big on campaigns and do not want tio be forced into doing it that way because I just do not have the time.. I will find out soon enough how this will work in BoS.

A+

No fun in that eternal grinding for me and not only for getting to the next level, running up the three but also for opening your individual planes.

Also the mayor changes to expect after every other bend while no way to anticipate. Like next day all your planes drop 30 % in value AND effectiveness the while you are merrily expected to invest that same amount once more in new options to get them again at the 100%.

Simplistic answer to all that: it is open beta which translated tells you we pretty much do with you what we want.

OK, but that was the last drop that made my bucket go in overflow ...

In all honesty however what was putting me off even more was the  account managing, the plain bean counting tidying up your place holders and individual planes and the frigging endless learning curve to get to the end off all that while it is a sim supposed to revolve around flying not majoring in accounting.

Look into how many accounts are on line any given day and compare this to the number of the active players and you'll notice + 30% is idle or bean counting for Xst sake.

Ok some will let the game run while off to something/somewhere ells but  not 30 %, more like 1 or 2.

The while you leave that game not eating virtual memory while you are using your pc for something ells.

So it is safe to say that 1/3 of the time one spends on that game one is counting beans .... sic, not my kind of fun 'cause could as well be back on the day job!

But never mind, if all that is fun for you not problem for me.

[Wolger]

Major plus point about WT over others is the amount of flyable planes. I love how I can easily shoot 109s down with my 20mm equiped Chaika P when they try to turn fight me. Non novice who use correct tactic by boom and zooming me I'll be deadmeat instantly.

 

If want 100% historical accuracy with correct scenario, map, planes - the new Event mode is the right direction.

Edited October 4, 2013 by Wolger

[Bearcat]

  Time for me to confess my sins.  I have been War Thundering for a couple of months now.  It all started with a 1.33 patch.  I looked at it and said to myself, "surely something this nice looking cant be realistic".  So I downloaded it and played.  A month later I was using Pay Pal to pay for stuff.  I can tell you now that WT has evolved.  The flight models are not easy cakewalks.  The action is very good and the game is FUN.  Yes there are some detractors like being chased in a 109 by an A-20G... Are you kidding me??  Or suddenly while flying a 109E4 you are up against a Bearcat..... WHAT?!?!  So it is not perfect but It is a nice game. 

  Bearcat, you and I think alike and I am with you on your comments.  I have better things to do with my time than play all day to unlock something.  IL2 was and still is the best sim as far as content and how it was run.  That ship has unfortunately sailed and I don't think we will ever see another flight sim like it. 

  The way RoF is run I believe is the best way.  Developers don't work for free and we get a new plane for less than dinner and a movie.  Hell, we get a new plane for about the price of a stadium hot dog and beer. 

  Don't write off WT.  There is a lot to be learned from this sim. 

  Oh yes, I forgot to mention that I only fly FRB and mostly German.  However I do like the Japanese planes.  To me the grafix in this game are where it is at.  This should be the benchmark for any upcoming sim.  Gameplay wise, I prefer IL2. 

 

  That's it, I am off the soap box

 

Maico

 

Hey Maico how ya been? This is the same Maico from back in the day right? You still across the water?

 

Yeah I agree.. IL2 got more stuff right6 that wrong when it comes to gameplay.. I still think that IL2 should be the basis moving forward for any sim features wise. IL2 style coops & DF with a MDS style option is the ultimate.

 

 

A+

No fun in that eternal grinding for me and not only for getting to the next level, running up the three but also for opening your individual planes.

Also the mayor changes to expect after every other bend while no way to anticipate. Like next day all your planes drop 30 % in value AND effectiveness the while you are merrily expected to invest that same amount once more in new options to get them again at the 100%.

Simplistic answer to all that: it is open beta which translated tells you we pretty much do with you what we want.

OK, but that was the last drop that made my bucket go in overflow ...

In all honesty however what was putting me off even more was the  account managing, the plain bean counting tidying up your place holders and individual planes and the frigging endless learning curve to get to the end off all that while it is a sim supposed to revolve around flying not majoring in accounting.

Look into how many accounts are on line any given day and compare this to the number of the active players and you'll notice + 30% is idle or bean counting for Xst sake.

Ok some will let the game run while off to something/somewhere ells but  not 30 %, more like 1 or 2.

The while you leave that game not eating virtual memory while you are using your pc for something ells.

So it is safe to say that 1/3 of the time one spends on that game one is counting beans .... sic, not my kind of fun 'cause could as well be back on the day job!

But never mind, if all that is fun for you not problem for me.

 

 

+1

[Feathered_IV]

In WT one repeatedly flies the base aircraft to earn access to new types. This is called grinding.

In the old days on Warclouds, people would obsessively fly the same planes on the same maps, over and over again for years for no reward. They called that full real.

 

Just a thought...

[Mac_Messer]

Can I do a friendly request? Please don`t say that WT is a sim, alright?

  Oh yes, I forgot to mention that I only fly FRB and mostly German.  However I do like the Japanese planes.  To me the grafix in this game are where it is at.  This should be the benchmark for any upcoming sim.  Gameplay wise, I prefer IL2. 

 

Disagree. Cliffs of Dover is hands down a more beatiful, immersive game. WT looks like more of an IL2 : 1946 upgrade and as such is obsolete.

In WT one repeatedly flies the base aircraft to earn access to new types. This is called grinding.
In the old days on Warclouds, people would obsessively fly the same planes on the same maps, over and over again for years for no reward. They called that full real.

Just a thought...

Yes, that is nice. I call the bolded part becoming a specialist. Although I disagree about the reward part. I`d get better every flying day and that`s the best reward imo.

Edited October 4, 2013 by Mac_Messer

[Bearcat]

In WT one repeatedly flies the base aircraft to earn access to new types. This is called grinding.

In the old days on Warclouds, people would obsessively fly the same planes on the same maps, over and over again for years for no reward. They called that full real.

Just a thought...

Yes but I don't want to do that. If I am going to drop $50 + for a product I don't want to have to grind for anything. I like what I like and maybe it is different now but when I was involved in at the thought if having to "specialize" in a F-4just did not float my boat. I do not like that style of swimming and I hope that BoS des not have it.

 

  

Can I do a friendly request? Please don`t say that WT is a sim, alright?

 

Disagree. Cliffs of Dover is hands down a more beatiful, immersive game. WT looks like more of an IL2 : 1946 upgrade and as such is obsolete.

 

Yes, that is nice. I call the bolded part becoming a specialist. Although I disagree about the reward part. I`d get better every flying day and that`s the best reward imo.

Please check your pms.

[Wolger]

They'd just released a video featuring land units but yet to be implemented. Seems to be Arcade with all the icons and 3PV. I wonder how FRB will fit into the new game mode?

 

Graphics look nice even at ground level.

 

http://youtu.be/foTmS4omfoE

[Alesia]

They'd just released a video featuring land units but yet to be implemented. Seems to be Arcade with all the icons and 3PV. I wonder how FRB will fit into the new game mode?

 

Graphics look nice even at ground level.

 

 

 

Arcade mode for sure, will have to wait on the more realistic modes (HB, FRB? modes, World War Mode?) before I can make a judgement on it.  Doesn't look bad though.

[kestrel79]

Tanks look cool, but I'll hold out for the FRB mode tanks. Hard to sneak up on someone's tank from behind with icons...

[Maico]

  Yeah Bearcat, Same Maico from NY.  I hope as do others that BoS turns into a modern version of IL2.  To hope for 200 flyables is a bit much by any stretch.  However, there is a market out here for flight sims. 

[Bearcat]

Good to see you Maico.. Weren't you across the water for spell.. ?

[=LD=dhyran]

well,

 

after a lot years of flying Warbirds and AH2 i was invited to WT in december 2011. During the time i was mod and gamemaster and build as FM dev a lot of modells. First of all, it is fun! The new events mode with historical correct planesets are great fun! But the best part of WT is, that it simply brings new players into the sim scene, which would never come to the idea to buy BoS, or even preorder it, but they are dragged into the dogfight spirit which catches all of us one time long ago. Thats WT biggest point. It brings "mouse shooters"  to a point where they decide, "ok now i wanna really fly, i need a hotas and track IR". The current daily potential with around 35000- 45000 players online is bigger than any pure sim could ever deliver.  

No other game brings in some many fresh blood into the scene like WT does!

 

Run FRB or some custom battle and it is fun, and thats what it is about

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aIT_qx1xLA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUS_alIt0PElL5PqF1yqZiYg

Edited October 7, 2013 by =LD=dhyran

[Uufflakke]

Well, I hope that Stalingrad in BoS is as nicely populated as WT's Berlin.

It looks very convincing.

 

http://youtu.be/wYBsz72wOVk

[Alesia]

well,

 

after a lot years of flying Warbirds and AH2 i was invited to WT in december 2011. During the time i was mod and gamemaster and build as FM dev a lot of modells. First of all, it is fun! The new events mode with historical correct planesets are great fun! But the best part of WT is, that it simply brings new players into the sim scene, which would never come to the idea to buy BoS, or even preorder it, but they are dragged into the dogfight spirit which catches all of us one time long ago. Thats WT biggest point. It brings "mouse shooters"  to a point where they decide, "ok now i wanna really fly, i need a hotas and track IR". The current daily potential with around 35000- 45000 players online is bigger than any pure sim could ever deliver.  

No other game brings in some many fresh blood into the scene like WT does!

 

Run FRB or some custom battle and it is fun, and thats what it is about

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aIT_qx1xLA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUS_alIt0PElL5PqF1yqZiYg

 

You guys did really well, makes me really want face tracking though, whole different game with that.

[VA_NAVY]

 There are a lot of things you can complain about WT. I agree with a lot of points brought up here. I play WT every day. Putting all of the complaints aside. When I am in game using complex engine management flying with 3 other squad mates it is fun as heck even with the so called low tier aircraft. The graphics and  effects  are awesome and you can really let your imagination run wild its like you are almost there. There is a game mode to please almost everyone and its still a work in progress. I have happily supported this game as well as ROF and will support BOS. Hopefully BOS will win me over from WT but for now its the best experience going. PS I have played all the old ones. 

[VA_NAVY]

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