Response curves?

[Winkysmith]

Hello everyone!

 

A little while back, I noticed that some people recommended using response curves for the simulator to make the aircraft easier to control. I have one question, do response curves make controlling the aircraft more or less realistic?

 

Regards,

Winkysmith

[Angry_Kitten]

try using the mouse control option and notice the big difference. 

 

sure no fancy barrel rolls but somehow the planes behave alot more then with a stick. 

 

response is better in a dive strangely. 

 

the p40 with fab 250 is alot more stable for some reason,, even in a cross wind

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

39 minutes ago, Winkysmith said:

Hello everyone!

 

A little while back, I noticed that some people recommended using response curves for the simulator to make the aircraft easier to control. I have one question, do response curves make controlling the aircraft more or less realistic?

 

Regards,

Winkysmith

 

I've found that using them sparingly gets the more severe "wobble" out of the plane.  It seems the more you add, the less responsive your inputs become.  

 

One other thing that I've found that really seems to help is the "joystick noise filter" setting in the menu where you can select joystick or mouse and force feedback on/off.

From what I can tell, it keeps all the tiny "extra" twitches you might do on the stick from causing the plane to bob all around.   I'd adjust that first, then add the curves if needed.

 

[Yogiflight]

1 hour ago, Winkysmith said:

A little while back, I noticed that some people recommended using response curves for the simulator to make the aircraft easier to control. I have one question, do response curves make controlling the aircraft more or less realistic?

Apart from personal feeling, it very much dependes on the stick you are using. With a good stick with Hall sensors, you won't really need it, with a stick, which is not as good, it might help control the aircraft around the middle of your stick. But if you move up your response curves, be aware, that harder turns get more difficult to fly, because the less the stick in the aircraft moves around the middle, when you move your joystick, the more it moves further away from the middle. Because, no matter how you set the response curve, at the end it always is at 100%.

[KevPBur]

As for "how realistic is it".

Personally I am sat in an office chair infront of a pc with a 20cm joystick with 5cm of movement to full deflection rather than in an airplane with an 80cm (wild guess) stick between my legs with 25cm of deflection that I can use both hands on to overcome the huge forces of wind over the control surfaces. Some adaptations are required.

 

I tend to require 50-80% on the X and Y curves depending on the plane to enable me to keep it pretty stable around the mid points and have a chance at flying in formation and getting the occasional lead into a target straight in-front of me.

My joystick is a 20 year old Logitech Force 3d Pro. Definitely not high end by todays standards but I just live without force feedback, literally in the virtual world.

[EAF19_Marsh]

They assist in replicating the reality of aircraft weight, inertia and control stiffness. Absence of feedback through the rest of the body and with joysticks generally being too easy to move, over-controlling in a sim. is quite common.

 

Desensitizing the first 10 degrees of stick movement - but especially rudder pedals - is not a realistic representation of how an aircraft actually works, but arguably its effect is to cause a sim pilot to fly closer to how they would in a real aircraft operating under physical conditions and effects.

[Winkysmith]

Thank you everyone for the information! I have a Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS 4, which is quite small, both in height and movement range. I may add some response curves at some point.

 

Also, I have a Logitech X-56 sitting in the corner. I might connect it up again. Being larger, I may be able to make finer movements with it.

Edited June 3, 2022 by Winkysmith