Discussion of Sopwith Snipe, Siemens-Schuckert D.IV and Spitfire Mk.XIV w/ Teardrop Canopy Pre-Orders!

[PatrickAWlson]

7 hours ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

This. But to be more specific: For gameplay reasons we REALLY need another German two-seater:

 

Rumpler C.IV

 

I am hoping for the RE8 at some point but, as of FC II, the British also do not have a Corps recon.  I am using the DH4 as a stand in but that is not really the right plane.  For the French, the Breguet stands in but really other planes were more common.  In RoF I used the RE8 as a Dorand in drag.  

[Avimimus]

43 minutes ago, Kerhuon said:

pre -order ?

 

Expecting first to get one day the items I pre-ordered monthes ago ;

 

No more pre-order until that !

 

Wallet not extensible here..

 

I think that is why we're allowed to order, as well as pre-order. Both options exist for a reason!

[czech693]

How about the Henschel 123?  There weren't very many but they had a long service career as a ground attack aircraft.

[Jade_Monkey]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

 

I think that is why we're allowed to order, as well as pre-order. Both options exist for a reason!

 

 

People acting like they are being forced to purchase a collector plane for a virtual combat plane simulator and getting angry?

[Jaws2002]

Tear drop canopy spitfires look really good.

I was never a fan of the girly lifted nose of the early spitfires. Once they got that straight nose and a bubble canopy they look very sexy and mean. ?

[Luger1969]

Predictably i fell for the looks. Pre-ordered the Spit..Siemens next month.

 

I later though the surprise may be a mosquito bomber variant. Release the FB and hot of the press follow it up with another 

[CUJO_1970]

19 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Including the new teardrop XIV, there's four Spitfires. There's five Fw-190s. You've got every right to be disappointed the newly announced airplane isn't [insert your favourite here], the teardrop Spit isn't my own first choice either, but please don't imply there's some kind of bias at work here.

 

 

I don't care how many Spitfires and 190s there are, or what the ratios are. There are already way more Allied aircraft in the sim and more coming down the pipe. Not surprising and also not the issue here.

 

The issue: Being ignored after requesting the blown canopy to be added to the A-8/F-8 for years - instead, Jason announces same blown canopy and mod, but for a Spitfire instead, lol. What's more is it requires a new 3D model and canopy model unlike the one for the 190 that already exists. If you want pay for the same thing to be added to the 190 you are up Schitt's Creek. Take that, Luftwaffe!

 

In acknowledgement of this new release I went out and instead purchased the Cessna 310 and 414 for MSFS and both are sweet rides, so all is good ?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

36 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said:

The issue: Being ignored after requesting the blown canopy to be added to the A-8/F-8 for years

Wait - what!?! Requesting a certain Fw-190 version years ago gives you some kind of rights? I really *really* **really really** hope you don't seriously think that just because you've been shouting for a certain aircraft for years, that should give any reason for the Devs to make that bird.

 

Again, there's no problem with being disappointed. As I already said, the XIV teardrop wasn't what I personally hoped for. But if you seriously think your wishes are somehow worth more than mine or whomever's, just because you've pushed for a certain Fw-190 canopy for years - then that seriously does offend me. The hubris.

[SYN_Vander]

7 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

 

Agree on the Rumpler, and would also like to see the N24.   Fits the 1917-18 timeline, and a decent turn fighter.

 

Now the N24 would make a really nice collector plane some day... fills in a gap in the (RoF) plane set.

[dburne]

I will definitely order the new Spit! Probably the other two as well just to show support.

[J2_Bidu]

44 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

I really *really* **really really** hope you don't seriously think that just because you've been shouting for a certain aircraft for years, that should give any reason for the Devs to make that bird.

 

(Worth a shot)

 

 SOPWITH MONOPLANE! SOPWITH MONOPLANE!

[Vishnu]

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*cha-ching*

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

1 hour ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

Now the N24 would make a really nice collector plane some day... fills in a gap in the (RoF) plane set.

I'd buy it..

[smink1701]

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[catchthefoxes]

So no thunderbolt :(?

[Jaws2002]

1 hour ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

Now the N24 would make a really nice collector plane some day... fills in a gap in the (RoF) plane set.

 

 

 

Hold your horses now.  Don't start with crazy talk about Noop24. First I want the Noop11 and Noop17. 

 

Only after those you have the right to talk about Noop24.

 

[IckyATLAS]

I follow the orders from the commander in chief JW. All have been pre-ordered. ?

Long Live Il2. Hip Hip Hip Hurrahhhhh!!!

[EAF19_Marsh]

12 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

The issue: Being ignored after requesting the blown canopy to be added to the A-8/F-8 for years, ?

 

That is odd. I was sure that they did have. Fairly easy fix for the team.

[Trooper117]

12 hours ago, Jaws2002 said:

 

 

 

Hold your horses now.  Don't start with crazy talk about Noop24. First I want the Noop11 and Noop17. 

 

Only after those you have the right to talk about Noop24.

 

 

I'm with him!!

[EAF19_Marsh]

1915 aircraft FTW!

[Vortice]

Pre-ordered the Spitfire Mk XIV with the new style canopy.

 

Spitfire Mk XVI with the same style canopy next please.

 

 

[Jeroen83]

12 minutes ago, Vortice said:

Pre-ordered the Spitfire Mk XIV with the new style canopy.

 

Spitfire Mk XVI with the same style canopy next please.

 

 

That would be cool as an added bonus for this plane. As I’m told it is a mkIX with a bubble top basically…

[BigC208]

I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for a BoB period Spitfire MKI/II and ME109E3/E4. The Hurricane and ME109E7 have done their duty for BoB scenarios but it would be nice to have the correct types. I’ll preorder as always to keep the money flowing.

[FuriousMeow]

19 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

There are already way more Allied aircraft in the sim and more coming down the pipe.

 

Tends to happen when 1 country goes to war with 3 that all have their own mass manufacturing capabilities.

[EAF19_Marsh]

6 minutes ago, FuriousMeow said:

 

Tends to happen when 1 country goes to war with 3 that all have their own mass manufacturing capabilities.

 

 

 

True, very true.

 

35,000 109s and we have 9 variants

20,000-plus 190s and we have 5 variants

 

22,000 Spitfires and we have 3 variants plus what is - to all intents and purposes - a mod

16,000 P-51s and we have 2 variants

 

Given that the other Axis fighters are really limited in terms of data, that Jason tries really hard to get actual cockpit pics, diagrams etc. to build the models and the team is trying to build a realistic Me. 410 and Ar. 234 (which in sim. history are extremely rare), I think the complaints about the Spit are a little whingy. Yeah. also not my first vote (Meteor for another late war RAF fighter if it was a BoN / BoBP module) but grumping about no canopy mod on the Fw. 190A8 or a lack of a Me.109G10 (which would be of less use at low level) is a little sour of the grapes.

 

So I will throw my toys out of the pram and complain about the lack of Be.2c, the lack of Westland Whirlwind and the lack of Meteor. As my 6-year-old tells me: "Because...yeah!"

[Asgar]

3 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

 

 

 

True, very true.

 

35,000 109s and we have 9 variants

20,000-plus 190s and we have 5 variants

 

22,000 Spitfires and we have 3 variants plus what is - to all intents and purposes - a mod

16,000 P-51s and we have 2 variants

 

Given that the other Axis fighters are really limited in terms of data, that Jason tries really hard to get actual cockpit pics, diagrams etc. to build the models and the team is trying to build a realistic Me. 410 and Ar. 234 (which in sim. history are extremely rare), I think the complaints about the Spit are a little whingy. Yeah. also not my first vote (Meteor for another late war RAF fighter if it was a BoN / BoBP module) but grumping about no canopy mod on the Fw. 190A8 or a lack of a Me.109G10 (which would be of less use at low level) is a little sour of the grapes.

 

So I will throw my toys out of the pram and complain about the lack of Be.2c, the lack of Westland Whirlwind and the lack of Meteor. As my 6-year-old tells me: "Because...yeah!"

Well if they add the Meteor we might as well get the Ta 152 and Do 335 for Germany.

[EAF19_Marsh]

24 minutes ago, Asgar said:

Well if they add the Meteor we might as well get the Ta 152 and Do 335 for Germany.

*sigh*
 

Please show Do.335 operational record - really, show it - and Ta.152 series numbers of serviceable aircraft that entered into combat units. I would be interested.

 

Oh yeah the Ta-152 had one famous combat where JG.301 Stab shot down 2 for 2. Meanwhile, in the actual air war…

[Asgar]

6 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

*sigh*
 

Please show Do.335 operational record - really, show it - and Ta.152 series numbers of serviceable aircraft that entered into combat units. I would be interested.

 

Oh yeah the Ta-152 had one famous combat where JG.301 Stab shot down 2 for 2. Meanwhile, in the actual air war…

so bout as much use in the acutal air war as the Meteor. good that we cleared that up  

[EAF19_Marsh]

15 minutes ago, Asgar said:

so bout as much use in the acutal air war as the Meteor. good that we cleared that up  

Do.335 numbers in service and activity?

Ta.152 numbers in service and activity?

Meteor numbers in service and activity?

 

Glad you bothered to put your brain in gear ?

[Asgar]

2 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Do.335 numbers in service and activity?

Ta.152 numbers in service and activity?

Meteor numbers in service and activity?

 

Glad you bothered to put your brain in gear ?

stop moving goal posts, is it number of planes or impact on air war? because that is basically 0 for all 3 of these planes

[Vishnu]

I find it amusing how many people in this forum (or this thread) feel like it’s necessary to name call and argue like it’s Twitter, especially in DD’s and announcements.   Truly entertaining. ?

[Weegie]

Well I'm delighted, when the XIV came out I was disappointed that it didn't have the teardrop canopy, although I was delighted to see the XIV either way.

 

When Jason made his cryptic announcement the first thing I thought of was a teardrop canopy on the Spit

 

So its cost me £13 or so to get one, I don't mind it also supports the whole venture. Much as I love the "other" sim, look at the cost of purchasing a module on there. IL2 is a bargian.

 

So now I'm waiting on 4 modules all of which are going to be interesting and fun

 

I'd love to see any of the mentioned aircraft available.......... Meteor, Do 335,  Ta 152 but I've got enough nuggets coming already to be more than happy.

 

I'll leave the historical arguments to the archivists and historians, I'm just on here to have some fun

[MisterSmith]

Everyone cool it with the sniping and OT posts. We are very slightly over the line and I don't want to have to crash the party.

 

Smith

[EAF19_Marsh]

10 hours ago, MisterSmith said:

Everyone cool it with the sniping and OT posts. We are very slightly over the line and I don't want to have to crash the party.

 

Smith

 
Surely ‘fencing’ rather than ‘sniping’?.

 

14 hours ago, Asgar said:

stop moving goal posts, is it number of planes or impact on air war? because that is basically 0 for all 3 of these planes

 

I’m not, dude. All 3 would be awesome, but the ‘air war’ was not just 3 missions and 2 victories vs. losses in the dying twilight. It was a complex environment over 6 years and - in my personal opinion - the Meteor was a greater participant than the 2 German types. Honestly, the Dornier?

 

I freely admit that the Meteor claimed no aerial victories and its time on the BoBp map was limited. But it was produced in numbers and did actually participate in the air war, if mostly over UK and the channel.

 

Interesting and rather undervalued aircraft. Not core, by any means, but to flesh out the list with types that the forces themselves viewed as important and that actually existed as a combat force, I would argue it is a stronger candidate than the 2 that you named.

[Vishnu]

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Edited May 21, 2022 by Vishnu

[rodgerdavies]

The Spitfire is one for the future, beautiful machine and I look forward to seeing its development, but thanks for the reminder that I hadn't yet ordered the IAR80!

[VilsonFarias]

Oh yeah...  

You have successfully purchased:
- Spitfire Mk.XIV w/ Teardrop Canopy Collector Plane Pre-order

 

Thanks IL-2 team, another great addition to the game

 

[jollyjack]

On 5/19/2022 at 2:15 AM, S10JlAbraxis said:

..... Even if they released a flying brick, I would order it.

 

here's one for ye':

 

[I./JG1_Baron]

Preordered ofcourse. Cant wait ?

[easterling77]

Same for me?