Discussion of Sopwith Snipe, Siemens-Schuckert D.IV and Spitfire Mk.XIV w/ Teardrop Canopy Pre-Orders!

[Jason_Williams]

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Attention Pilots!

We are proud to announce that we are now accepting Pre-Orders for three new Collector Planes! We continue to build and offer interesting and legendary aircraft for the Great Battles series that enhances gameplay and offers new experiences to our customers. 

 

The following are now available for Pre-Order in the IL-2 Official Webstore! All feature a 20% Pre-Order Discount!

 

- Sopwith Snipe

- Siemens-Schuckert D.IV

- Spitfire Mk. XIV w/ Teardrop Canopy

 

All three of these planes are in development and we plan to release them later this year and each represents the pinnacle of aircraft design for their respective eras

 

FULL ANNOUNCEMENT HERE!

 

Jason

[76IAP-Black]

Best News!!!! Tanks 

[=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy]

So, the “new plane variant” we heard about is the Spit MkXIV with Teardrop Canopy..?

[354thFG_Panda_]

Bubble canopy XIV ????

[Jason_Williams]

4 minutes ago, =GEMINI=IngegnerTommy said:

So, the “new plane variant” we heard about is the Spit MkXIV with Teardrop Canopy..?

 

Yes. We hired a new modeler and this is his first assignment to break him in to become familiar with our model requirements. Will make a great recon plane too. 

Jason

[Luger1969]

An truly amazing preorder...3 x double S...Sopwith Snipe...Siemens Shukert...Supermarine Spitfire

 

SSSSSS

 

Excellent.

 

The S bonanza

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire_(Griffon-powered_variants)

Edited May 18, 2022 by Luger1969

[Juri_JS]

9 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

Will make a great recon plane too.

Does it mean it will get a camera modification and a recon mission type in career mode?

[Ala13_UnopaUno_VR]

The price to expect for the Spit will be $ 20, pulling up or down? I like to support the project but maybe I would like to support projects in twin-engines that I think would help more, anyway if it's an exercise for a new employee, this is a good level. 

 

[ColoniaLibre]

The Spitfire Mk. XIV with teardrop canopy is really cool. Thank you very much! Instant drop in my shopping basket! ??

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Will these new WW1 planes eventually be part of FC3, or will they always be stand alone "collector" planes?   Thanks in advance, and very happy to see this announcement.

[ShamrockOneFive]

4 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Will these new WW1 planes eventually be part of FC3, or will they always be stand alone "collector" planes?   Thanks in advance, and very happy to see this announcement.

Going by past behaviour, Collector Planes have never been announced and then later rolled in.

[Avimimus]

38 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

Yes. We hired a new modeler and this is his first assignment to break him in to become familiar with our model requirements. Will make a great recon plane too. 

Jason

 

Very cool.

 

I love the idea of recon.

 

I always thought it could be marketed with the idea that recon aircraft flying solitarily (or almost solitarily) behind enemy lines was very courageous ('alone, unarmed, and unafraid' as the famous phrase goes). I think there is also room for a lot of gameplay related to the quality of photorecon (e.g. is the target photographed, is it clear/good contrast, is the aircraft vibrating too much - there are metrics providing challenges similar to 'whether a bomb hits'). Something I think I raised with Oleg Maddox back in 2001.

 

Anyway, probably a bit less exciting than the idea of a WWII artillery spotter with multiple types of artillery - but expanded recon gameplay is a possibility perhaps someday.

 

[Voidhunger]

Thanks!!!

[Avimimus]

Okay - someone sell me on the teardrop XIV! I'm pretty happy with the existing cockpit... is there any reason I should really want it?

[Luftschiff]

"Will make an excellent recon aircraft?"

 

Colour me intrigued

Edited May 18, 2022 by Luftschiff

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Pre-ordered all 3 of them.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[sevenless]

If it is called Spitfire, I am sold ?

 

 

Good thing is, that bird is still existing. Here:

 

Supermarine Spitfire FR XIV (warbirdflights.co.uk)

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by sevenless

[5th_Barone]

What will be the differences from this mk xiv compared with the one from BoN (apart obviously for the canopy)?

[DBFlyguy]

Preordering the Snipe for now, I'll pick up the bubble top Spit once the C-47A is released. Was kinda hoping we'd get that A-20G... but hopefully eventually...  The BEST part of this announcement though is the news of hiring of a new modeler!!! ???  Hopefully that'll help with production down the road ? 

[BMA_FlyingShark]

2 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

The BEST part of this announcement though is the news of hiring of a new modeler!!! ???  Hopefully that'll help with production down the road ?

I think this too.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[EAF19_Marsh]

Am sure this violates the famous ‘you can only have late-war Luftwaffe unicorns’ rule of flight-sims.

Edited May 18, 2022 by EAF19_Marsh

[Asgar]

Too bad that there are no more German WW2 planes left…

[=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy]

56 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

Yes. We hired a new modeler and this is his first assignment to break him in to become familiar with our model requirements. Will make a great recon plane too. 

Jason

 

Understood. My two cents:

 

It’s a wonderful plane, possibly one of the best-looking warbirds ever, and I’m sure it will be modelled up to Il2 standards. It’s a bit surprising to see it’s offered as a whole separate premium airplane rather than an in-game modification, but hell whatever works, I might buy it myself as I know I would be supporting the development of my fav sim.

 

HOWEVER, what worries me is that basically all new planes currently in the pipeline, albeit interesting and in some cases quite different from the current planes (e.g. mosquito), don’t really offer new way of playing the game, or rather let me say “different tactical scenarios”. 
 

There is just so many plane that could change the expand the way we play, particularly in multiplayer. I’m thinking medium bombers (just FLYABLE versions of B25 or B26 would do), heavy bombers (usual topic, I know..) and everything related to torpedoes dynamics which I was really hoping to see implemented for the Normandy map alongside with new naval units.

 

In the longer term, I am pretty sure it would be everybody’s dream to see this series expand to completely new scenarios like pacific, malta or so, and I know that’s easier said than done. But talking about the existing scenarios, at least getting more variety on what can be done (with new types of plane or new in game dynamics) would really do great for the longevity… 

 

Just my opinion

 

Cheers. 

 

[YoYo]

I'm holding my wallet  this time, temporarily, but when I see a move in the interest, I'm into it.

 

? What about C-47, IAR-80, 2 new tanks, finishing of BoN and FC vol II ?

 

? For FC models - we need campaignes like in BoX series .... without it  not a big reason to buy the new planes for me, sry. Pretty Pls to finish WWI part1 map + campaignes for WWI FC1 and/or FC2, then I will gladly take any new model.  

 

? Plus in the fall, when BoN will be finished, announce the Pacific theater ❤️❤️❤️ ❕❕❕

Edited May 18, 2022 by YoYo

[ShamrockOneFive]

20 minutes ago, Asgar said:

Too bad that there are no more German WW2 planes left…

 

What if we dangled the Me210 infront of you

[Guest deleted@134347]

nice. Pre-ordered the teardrop Spit.. and the IAR-80/81 (missed the announcement when it went in to pre-order)...

[Asgar]

3 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

What if we dangled the Me210 infront of you

Don’t mention the 210 ??

[Avimimus]

21 minutes ago, Asgar said:

Too bad that there are no more German WW2 planes left…

 

I know! With almost all of the Fw-190 and Bf-109 variants modelled all that were left are the interesting ones - and I took all of those while no one was looking. If anyone ever wants to see a Fw-189, Ar-196, Ju-188, Fi-156, He-162 well... alas, too late... the devs took too long to get around to them and now they all belong to me!

[Ringlett]

Really???


Are you really serious about wanting $20 for a relatively small adjustment in the flight and 3d model on an XIV with a bubble? Plus at the moment your fuel management is still not working?
And a handful of other bugs in the game to boot?
But yes, it's a beautiful plane. However, I can only understand the choice from a business point of view. Not from a player's point of view.

 

Paradoxically, I would understand more the creation of the Spit Vc as a standalone model, as it is a completely different machine compared to the current Vb.

Edited May 18, 2022 by ATA_Ringlett

[=621=Samikatz]

Not quite what I was expecting on the Spit but still cool! That variant is absolutely gorgeous, even if her career is rather short

[Alan_Grey]

I have a Spitfire Mk.XIV w / Teardrop at home ?

[76IAP-Black]

That's the version everybody was waiting for, and if not, ignore it and have fun with the game 

[Asgar]

40 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

I know! With almost all of the Fw-190 and Bf-109 variants modelled all that were left are the interesting ones - and I took all of those while no one was looking. If anyone ever wants to see a Fw-189, Ar-196, Ju-188, Fi-156, He-162 well... alas, too late... the devs took too long to get around to them and now they all belong to me!

I still bought the Spit, just like i bought the Hurricane, C-47, and the two Yaks. At this points i bought 5 planes in the hopes that we will get some new German or general axis planes in addition to the IAR-80. Especially the Fw 189 for the upcoming spotting within Marshal operations or the 188 would be nice. Do 217 or even the He 177. It's different. It's a big bomber but less demanding in terms of AI and even the engines can be modelled as just two instead of 4 coupled ones. It could be a nice test bed for heavier bombers.

Edited May 18, 2022 by Asgar

[saldy]

Bo1946 announced...?

[JGr2/J5_Hotlead]

Woo hoo! Bought both FC collector planes; thank you very much for this! These two collector planes represent another big step forward in FC emerging from ROF's shadow. We now have much more atmospheric weather, lovelier aircraft graphics, dynamic visual damage, well-implemented control rod breakage damage effects, better sound effects, and new aircraft that ROF never had before. Add to that the fact that a campaign is in the works for the future (as well as a new Verdun map + seasonal variants) and you can see how the devs are on the path to making FC a product worthy of standing on its own reputation. 

 

Of course I, like many, are hoping that the wing shedding damage model and the instant-deaths on noseovers are fixed. These are admittedly hard issues to deal with, but we're willing to wait. Waiting has always paid off before and the devs always come through with great things like what we have here today. Needless to say, I'm optimistic for the future! ?

[Avimimus]

25 minutes ago, ATA_Ringlett said:

Are you really serious about wanting $20 for a relatively small adjustment in the flight and 3d model on an XIV with a bubble?

 

The way I look at it... in BoN:

 

They effectively are giving us an Me-410B as well as the Me-410A

They effectively gave us both early and late versions of the Ju-88C6 (two different cockpits)

They gave us a Mosquito FB.VI, a Mosquito FB.VI Coastal Command variant (with rockets), and a Mosquito XVIII Tse-tse.

The P-51B, P-51C, and Mustang Mk.III...

 

So they could've split most of the BoN aircraft (and even some BoBP aircraft e.g. the Fw-190A8, F8, and G8) into two or three different aircraft to sell us. But they didn't.

 

We're getting a very good deal compared to some other sims, and even earlier models - and I'm exceedingly happy with this.

 

However, they still need to turn a profit... their original Spit XIV happened to only have the most common/relevant canopy type and releasing the Spit XIV with a different canopy for free would've taken funds away from other areas of development. So I think it makes sense - the fans of this particular variant can 'crowd fund' its inclusion. The people who aren't fans don't have to pay and can save their money for other parts of the project. Win, win....

 

I don't think it marks a shift in their approach - they've been moving towards giving us more extensive content (somehow for approximately the same price). I honestly, wouldn't mind it if they released a few more minor variants. A lightened Fw-190A8 with some of the guns removed (as some pilots did) for instance, or an early Spit IXc or early Typhoon... if people are willing to fund it, then it is a nice addition to have.

[timothy55]

Done , Just bought all 3

[BigMotor]

Snipe and Schuckert pre ordered, very exciting and glad to support the team for all their hard work.

[Elem]

All ordered, with thanks.

[EAF19_Marsh]

If I buy this can we get a car-door Typhoon curtesy of the new modeller?