Developer Diary #315 - Discussion

[moustache]

9 minutes ago, Thad said:

the puma is currently AI control only

yep like the other... and not sure they will playable later...

[Thad]

We can hope.

[Spinnetti]

Looks like "Oyster" did a ton of detail work! Is he part of the dev team or one of us from the "unwashed masses"?

6 hours ago, migmadmarine said:

Since it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the text, and before people start getting concerned by what is outside the Dakota's windows, remember what Jason said in the Easter post about the cockpit being stuck into a different aircraft for initial testing. 

Yep, and looks like the temporary "outside" is actually the Po-2!

Edited April 22, 2022 by Spinnetti

[Yogiflight]

Maybe the Luchin Team could also model a Kübelwagen, which is still missing.

Not to forget, that the heavy field Flak units had protection shields for the 88mm Flak.

The Puma looks really great

[rumint]

Really good update. I especially like the B-26, even if it is only AI. One note, the pciture shows the B-26 pilots with oxygen masks and heavy flight jackets. The B-26 formations in the ETO generally flew at 10K-11K feet and bombed from that altitude. The crew did not use oxygen and the front end crew usually wore flight gear appropriate for the season.

[pilotpierre]

? all good goodies a comin

[sevenless]

Wonderful cockpit for the C-47 ?

[616Sqn_Johnny-Red]

For C-47 enthusiasts everywhere; I took these pics at Elvington a few years ago:

 

[Gambit21]

Looking forward to some austere airfield, STOL ops near, or behind the lines with that Gooney Bird.

[BlitzPig_EL]

I hope it's possible to land it in a field without instantly killing the crew.

[kitsunelegend]

You know, I'm actually really curious if the C-47 could even roll on the ground with the U2's engines instead of its own. Would be quite comical I feel lol

 

That cockpit is looking fantastic though! I seriously cannot wait to be able to sit in it in game for real, especially while flying through incoming fire and flak. And I bet it'll even better in VR! Might even convince me to buy a newer VR unit than my old CV1 lol

[Niagara]

Can we have the A20 -G Model  ??  Please .. 

[[CPT]Crunch]

2 hours ago, 616Sqn_Johnny-Red said:

For C-47 enthusiasts everywhere; I took these pics at Elvington a few years ago:

 

 

 

 

 

I've got one of those brown leather pouches, they contain the original factory issued weight and balance slip stick computer.  Mines for a C-130A though, lifted it prior to it being turned into the boneyard, they were no longer authorized for usage any way at that point.  There were very few people left who actually knew how to use that computer, basically a slide rule slipstick calibrated to that particular aircraft, for inputting fuel, crew, and cargo load weight and distributions giving a CG.  And that pouch is made out of top quality leather, the slide rule components are similar to the plastics off a pool ball.

[Charlo-VRde]

8 hours ago, Freycinet said:

Didn't plan to but I will end up buying that Dakota, that's for sure... Iconic plane and that looks like a superb model.

 

BTW, walking through one, it felt just like walking through the B-17. Tiny and quite cramped. Did any of you feel the same or is it just me?

 

I've been in a DC-3 dozens of times in the mid 1990's, and I always found it pretty roomy for a jump plane - one of the few I could stand up comfortably in. We had no benches, only seat belts on the floor. The cockpit always looked cramped, though, and I never sat in either seat.

 

The one time I was in a flying B-25 I felt quite cramped, but we were also working our way to the tail gunner position to jump from back there.

Edited April 23, 2022 by Charlo-VR

[Jason_Williams]

1 hour ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

I've got one of those brown leather pouches, they contain the original factory issued weight and balance slip stick computer.  Mines for a C-130A though, lifted it prior to it being turned into the boneyard, they were no longer authorized for usage any way at that point.  There were very few people left who actually knew how to use that computer, basically a slide rule slipstick calibrated to that particular aircraft, for inputting fuel, crew, and cargo load weight and distributions giving a CG.  And that pouch is made out of top quality leather, the slide rule components are similar to the plastics off a pool ball.

 

I have a B-52D slide rule that was my dad's. It's in the same kind of leather case. Also, when I sat in the B-25 in November I could not get over how tight it was. Simply no way with the plane spinning out of control are you going to get out. Death trap in combat. The gunners had a much better chance. Pilots and bombardier seemed impossible to me.

 

Jason 

[Asgar]

6 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

I hope it's possible to land it in a field without instantly killing the crew.

Sure you can, just like any other plane in the sim

[senseispcc]

The C47 is  a nice and great addition and I hope not the last one for this great game. Thanks to all how did and are going to buy it but also all how created the game, I repeat myself.

But are there enough word of encouragement for those how permit so many hours, days, weeks and if  I dare go this far years of enjoyment of the IL2 brand. Thanks.

[DN308]

On 4/23/2022 at 5:54 AM, Jason_Williams said:

 

I have a B-52D slide rule that was my dad's. It's in the same kind of leather case. Also, when I sat in the B-25 in November I could not get over how tight it was. Simply no way with the plane spinning out of control are you going to get out. Death trap in combat. The gunners had a much better chance. Pilots and bombardier seemed impossible to me.

 

Jason 

If you sat in the B-25, you can so imagine our willing to fly that beauty and/or the B-26.

Please imagine and consider our pray

[racketyjack]

I'm curious...the rollups in the C-47 cockpit, what are they for? Privacy shades for when they pull into the RV park for the night? 

[ShamrockOneFive]

23 hours ago, DN308 said:

If you sat in the B-25, you can so imagine our willing to fly that beauty and/or the B-26.

Please imagine and consider our pray

 

You should read his post on the subject:

 

[Elem]

14 minutes ago, Eeafanas said:

What gun does Churchill have? Will it be able to penetrate the Tiger's frontal armor?

A Thompson M1A1, so no, certainly not!

[[CPT]Crunch]

17 hours ago, racketyjack said:

I'm curious...the rollups in the C-47 cockpit, what are they for? Privacy shades for when they pull into the RV park for the night? 

More than likely sun shades, a back angle of the sun makes reading glass instruments with bad glare kind of dangerous and very annoying on extended flights.  Some of the more modern transports had clipable shaded plastic glare shields that could be moved and adjusted as standard equipment.  

[BlitzPig_EL]

1 hour ago, Eeafanas said:

What gun does Churchill have? Will it be able to penetrate the Tiger's frontal armor?

 

I don't believe so.  I think it's the 57mm 6 pounder.

[ShamrockOneFive]

This site has some interesting commentary: https://warspot.net/156-tiger-killers

 

If I'm reading it right, the 6-pounder could penetrate the side armor and even the front armor although only at closer ranges.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

I don't believe so.  I think it's the 57mm 6 pounder.

 

That and the 75mm mod known as NA 75 that was used in Italy. 

 

https://il2sturmovik.com/store/collector-vehicles/

Edited April 28, 2022 by LukeFF

[CountZero]

LOL

 

we have to give you tank like Churchil and not more usefule one because it is historicly used in battle, at same time well make it so it have gun it never used in battle (or on any map in game), comic gold!

Edited April 28, 2022 by CountZero

[Fritz_X]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

That and the 75mm mod known as NA 75 that was used in Italy. 

 

https://il2sturmovik.com/store/collector-vehicles/

 

Aha! Now you spilled your dirty little secret! Italy 1943 is basically confirmed as the next module!

 

Oh well... A man can dream, can't he?

[BlitzPig_EL]

Italian campaign confirmed.

 

?

[Warbird213]

3 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

 

Aha! Now you spilled your dirty little secret! Italy 1943 is basically confirmed as the next module!

 

Oh well... A man can dream, can't he?

well, i mean, the Ju88 C6 has a "Mediterranean" camo sooo...

[LuftManu]

Not trying to derail the topic but...

Sign me in for MTO! ?

[Jade_Monkey]

1 hour ago, CountZero said:

LOL

 

we have to give you tank like Churchil and not more usefule one because it is historicly used in battle, at same time well make it so it have gun it never used in battle (or on any map in game), comic gold!

 

Keeping it realistic while giving some options for alternative gameplay, what's so horrible?

 

Some people are never satisfied.

[Yogiflight]

1 hour ago, Eeafanas said:

Guys, please tell me the length of this gun.  36 or 50 caliber?  I don't quite understand.

50 caliber

[Noisemaker]

1 hour ago, Eeafanas said:

Guys, please tell me the length of this gun.  36 or 50 caliber?  I don't quite understand.

Deutsch (So gut wie möglich): Also, Caliber hat nichts mit der Länge zu tun, sondern die breite von den Granate.  50 Caliber ist etwa 12,7mm breit.  Die Kanonen auf dieser Panzer hat eine Breite von 57mm oder 75mm.  Die Länge von das Gewehrrohr kenne ich nicht, aber das ist etwas anders als Caliber.

English:  Calibre has nothing to do with the length of the barrel, rather the diameter of the round.  50cal is approximately 12.7mm wide.  The cannon on this tank has a diameter of 57mm or 75mm wide.  I don't know the length of the barrel, but that is another subject than the calibre.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Not so fast there...

 

Naval rifles are always denoted by their bore size and their barrel length expressed as multiples of the bore diameter, thusly...

 

Main guns on South Dakota class battleships are 16" 45 caliber.

 

The guns on the Iowa class are 16" 50 caliber.

Edited April 28, 2022 by BlitzPig_EL

[616Sqn_Tyggz]

BlitzPig is right. Calibre in the context of small arms is totally different to calibre in the context of artillery and naval guns.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliber_(artillery)

 

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

BlitzPig is right. Calibre in the context of small arms is totally different to calibre in the context of artillery and naval guns.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliber_(artillery)

 

 

It’s not.

[Gambit21]

6 hours ago, LF_Gallahad said:

Not trying to derail the topic but...

Sign me in for MTO! ?

 

You're officially signed in...no go stand in the corner with the other freakshows.

[Asgar]

4 hours ago, Noisemaker said:

Deutsch (So gut wie möglich): Also, Caliber hat nichts mit der Länge zu tun, sondern die breite von den Granate.  50 Caliber ist etwa 12,7mm breit.  Die Kanonen auf dieser Panzer hat eine Breite von 57mm oder 75mm.  Die Länge von das Gewehrrohr kenne ich nicht, aber das ist etwas anders als Caliber.

English:  Calibre has nothing to do with the length of the barrel, rather the diameter of the round.  50cal is approximately 12.7mm wide.  The cannon on this tank has a diameter of 57mm or 75mm wide.  I don't know the length of the barrel, but that is another subject than the calibre.

he asked what length the barrel is 36 or 50 calibre (lengths) which is the common way to denote barrel lengths on artillery or tank cannons.

 

KwK 42 7,5cm L/70 -> tank cannon 7,5cm calibre length 70x caliber

 

Rheinmetall Rh 120 L/44 and L/55

Calibre 120mm, length 44x the calibre and 55x the calibre  

[Rhino-1938]

Damn i got to get busy on my next flight chair with my original C-47 pilots seat

[Noisemaker]

3 hours ago, Asgar said:

he asked what length the barrel is 36 or 50 calibre (lengths) which is the common way to denote barrel lengths on artillery or tank cannons.

 

KwK 42 7,5cm L/70 -> tank cannon 7,5cm calibre length 70x caliber

 

Rheinmetall Rh 120 L/44 and L/55

Calibre 120mm, length 44x the calibre and 55x the calibre  

Learned something new!  Thanks!