Developer Diary #315 - Discussion

[Jason_Williams]

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Dear Pilots and Tankers,

 

Today’s DD is a collection of images of new content in development by our partners such as Ugra Media, DigitalForms and others.

 

First, we have a few very much WIP images from the C-47 cockpit being built by Ugra Media. As you can she its coming along nicely and it will add a new dimension to Allied air operations!

 

Full Text and Visuals HERE.

 

Jason

[Luger1969]

Excellent. Dakota cockpit looks really good. The german armoured car will be a collector vehicle?

Edited April 22, 2022 by Luger1969

[BlitzPig_EL]

Wow, that Puma made me sit up in my seat.  Been wanting one to add to my mission building for a long time.  I know it's a very big ask at this point, but if there is a way to have player operable armored cars added, even way out in the future, it would really be a great thing.

 

Lots of great looking models here Jason.  My thanks to all those responsible.

 

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[Jason_Williams]

4 minutes ago, Luger1969 said:

Excellent. Dakota cockpit looks really good. The german armoured car will be a collector vehicle?

No it is just an Ai vehicle.

 

Jason

[AndyJWest]

Outstanding work, partners!  ?

[Asgar]

4 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

No it is just an Ai vehicle.

 

Jason

For now? I would definitely buy!

[Lusekofte]

That Dakota , It is a masterpiece

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[migmadmarine]

Since it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the text, and before people start getting concerned by what is outside the Dakota's windows, remember what Jason said in the Easter post about the cockpit being stuck into a different aircraft for initial testing. 

[Luger1969]

I was wondering?...ju52?

Edited April 22, 2022 by Luger1969

[JimTM]

The modeling looks great. I'm really looking forward to flying the C-47.

[Asgar]

5 minutes ago, Luger1969 said:

I was wondering?...ju52?

Ju-47 3mot??

[AndyJWest]

4 minutes ago, Luger1969 said:

I was wondering?...ju52?

 

Looks like it.

 

A BMW radial tacked on the front of a C-47 might improve performance a little, but I can't imagine the mechanics would be too happy about it... 

[Jade_Monkey]

That Puma is just the right target for some good ol' Rocket Typhoon!

 

C-47 and Churchill looking good too! 

[DD_Crash]

Any chance of getting the tank developers to use Simshaker software Jason?

[[CPT]Crunch]

You sure that C-U2-47 VS has enough engine power to get her off the ground?

[Blitzen]

I never noticed that the DC-3 /C-47 was a trimotor!!!?

[616Sqn_Tyggz]

 

It's a U2.

[Garven]

Does the Churchill have a mortar or is it just a smoke launcher? 

[616Sqn_Tyggz]

11 minutes ago, Simon_Kenton said:

Does the Churchill have a mortar or is it just a smoke launcher? 

 

All marks of the  Churchill are fitted with a 2 inch mortar that fired two types of smoke round.
The first emitted smoke from the base of the round, the second type used a bursting phosphorus composition.

 

 

Hopefully one day all the tanks that mount smoke launchers will be able to make full use of them (Currently just the Tiger and Pz III)

 

Then there are also the smoke emitters at the back of the tank for laying down a wall of smoke.

 

 

Edited April 22, 2022 by 616Sqn_Tyggz

[Asgar]

15 minutes ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

 

 

Hopefully one day all the tanks that mount smoke launchers will be able to make full use of them (Currently just the Tiger and Pz III)

 

Didn’t Panzer IV also have the ability to shoot smoke through a port in the roof? (I might be mis-remembering)

[Avimimus]

So we have Ugra, Luchin, Ivan (IAR-80/81 modeller), plus the very talented scripted campaign writers and the volunteers doing the texture reworks. This is exciting. More variety!

 

I'm really glad that the team is taking the time to work with these others, as I know it takes some training for even the most professional of modellers to build something to a specific and consistent standard for a purpose. I hope it works out well for everyone involved!

 

I'd love to see a British motor gunboat for Normandy to fight the E-Boats etc. So many possibilities.

 

 

  

43 minutes ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

It's a U2.

 

Yes, which makes the C-47 a bit underpowered. I might just mock this up in X-Plane to see if/how it flies.

 

This reminds me btw - Does anyone else think that the cylinders on the Shvetsov M-11 could do with an increase in detail? They've always seemed relatively unimpressive to me compared to the overall quality of everything else.

 

 

34 minutes ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

All marks of the  Churchill are fitted with a 2 inch mortar that fired two types of smoke round.
The first emitted smoke from the base of the round, the second type used a bursting phosphorus composition.

 

I don't suppose there are any reports of them ever getting their hands on other types of ammunition? It could be a pretty amusing field mod. Not that useful as a weapon, but still interesting.

Edited April 22, 2022 by Avimimus

[JG1_Wittmann]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Wow, that Puma made me sit up in my seat. 

 

 

The same sentiment.  Then,  like watching Michael Douglas in "Falling Down"   the reality ends up being nothing like the photo  and the let down happens.   It would be very nice to add scout cars like this as playable.  In fact,  make all of the non playable vehicles/armor playable.   If they take so long to do, then give us the free model version .  Those are still the same as before ?  As time allows, flesh them out and waste time on uniform appearance, etc.  Let's get some Hummels and Wespe's in there.  LEt's give the Russian team  some better/later war tanks to be more competitive vs the TIger and Ferdinand.    Having an ideal  of  not releasing playable versions of the vehicles because all of the eye-candy interiors and crap are not done  is  the wrong approach to get more customers.  Didn't the russians say that quantity has a quality all it's own ?   Maybe  the developers need to shift to that idea, get  more  basic playable versions of these vehicles in game  and see what happens.  Pick 6,  release an early/lesser model of them  and see what happens.   I  have not  pre-ordered the churchill  or the Stug.  May get the Stug, but doubtful on the british one because  it  appears to be somewhat useless.  I would definitely pre-order, even simplified interface scout cars and mobile german artillery for sure  and I think there are many on here that would do the same  with the knowledge that eventually it will get fleshed out

[Blitzen]

1 hour ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

 

It's a U2.

Maybe a Russian field mod?????

[fergal69]

Nice work guys ?

[Juri_JS]

Are there still plans to create the Li-2 too?

[616Sqn_Johnny-Red]

The Churchill looks absolutely stunning. I can't wait to take it for a slow, clanking, grating, rattling, screaching spin...

 

...perhaps followed by a hill-climbing competition.

 

I have very high hopes for the usability of this tank in multiplayer missions, being as it is, the second Western Allied tank in game, and especially considering its historical presence on both the Rhineland and Normandy maps.

 

I also hope that 1CGS will recognise the opportunity to make the most broadly representative vehicle; with appropriate ammunition to arm the many examples that ended their war parked on the territory of the Reich.

 

 

 

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Cheers to the partners.

Looking good.

Have a nice day.

 

[Avimimus]

25 minutes ago, JG1_Wittmann said:

The same sentiment.  Then,  like watching Michael Douglas in "Falling Down"   the reality ends up being nothing like the photo  and the let down happens.   It would be very nice to add scout cars like this as playable.  

 

I think the rationale would be if artillery spotting gameplay was expanded. It'd make vehicles like the Humber armoured car, and aircraft like the Fi-156 or Fw-189 have very useful gameplay (in both single-player and multiplayer). I think it'd have to be modelled in some depth though (e.g. control over multiple types of AI artillery, different types of fire missions) for it to be really viable though.

 

Still, I think it'd appeal to people who like blowing things up - and also appeal to people who like lighter/nimbler vehicles (and sight-seeing). The best of all worlds? Anyway, just an idea. It'd actually be kind-of cool to see a DLC with say, three artillery observing aircraft and three artillery spotting ground vehicles in the same pack.

 

 

21 minutes ago, Juri_JS said:

Are there still plans to create the Li-2 too?

 

The January 11 timeline mentions it:

Apparently they are planning on fully creating the C-47 first before moving on to it... so we probably won't see an update until the C-47 is close to release.

 

I'm quite curious what field mods we'll get and what types of cargo. IRL they did things like drop bombs (and other supplies) out of the cargo bay side-door, and field mods for RS-82 rockets and NS-45 45mm cannon are recorded as having been used - although I doubt there is any photographic record - so we are exceptionally unlikely to see these rare variants. It'd be pretty cool if the team found photographs though (they do speak Russian better than me). Anyway, the 8xFAB-100 variant would be nice (can safely be dropped at lower altitudes than the FAB-250 or FAB-500).

 

I honestly think it is pretty wild what the Soviets did with the Li-2  

Edited April 22, 2022 by Avimimus

[moustache]

1 hour ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

Hopefully one day all the tanks that mount smoke launchers will be able to make full use of them (Currently just the Tiger and Pz III)

in multi, it could be a good thing (it will add some gameplay to the little current), but in solo, with the concerns of IA, I think it would be useless... and it would be necessary to redo the smoke system so that this be efficient (and a bit pleasing to the eye...) (and I doubt that's possible with the current game engine and the consequences on performance...)

 

I imagine it will be like the smoke canisters already present on the PzIV, the Pz III, the Tigers... something modeled, but not used (it even seems to me that some Shermans could actually fire smoke shells)

[Nickkyboy99]

Wasn't planning on buying the C-47, but after seeing these pics it's surely making me want to

 

Thanks a lot Jason ?

Edited April 22, 2022 by Nickkyboy99

[migmadmarine]

1 hour ago, Asgar said:

Didn’t Panzer IV also have the ability to shoot smoke through a port in the roof? (I might be mis-remembering)

Pz.IV ausf G had the 6 external launchers seen on Tiger I Es, Panther D, Panzer IIIM, etc for much of the production run. I believe ours in game is an early G configuration.  Pz.IV H and J had the turret roof smoke/close defense mortar (nahverteidegungswaffe) seen as standard after 44. Massive variability on configuration by manufacturer and month of production with tanks. 

Edited April 22, 2022 by migmadmarine

[Beebop]

A British motor gunboat?  YES!

A C-u-47-vs?  I've bought most of the collector planes but this is one that I might take a pass on.

[Jaws2002]

That little Puma is sexy.  ?

[616Sqn_Tyggz]

1 hour ago, Asgar said:

Didn’t Panzer IV also have the ability to shoot smoke through a port in the roof? (I might be mis-remembering)

 

I was thinking about the external smoke launchers. I think you might be referring to the Nahverteidigungswaffe smoke mortar fitted on 1944 production panzers migmadmarine mentioned?

 

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

I don't suppose there are any reports of them ever getting their hands on other types of ammunition? It could be a pretty amusing field mod. Not that useful as a weapon, but still interesting.

 

I've doubt it, but then again Churchill crew biographies are hard to come by with pretty much all of them being out of print.

 

 

Being able to dispense smoke from either mortars, emitters or fired from the main gun would be a huge aid in combined arms multiplayer efforts. Weather you're using coloured smoke to direct ground attack aircraft or a smoke screen to provide cover it would certainly add depth which tank crew is lacking.

Edited April 22, 2022 by 616Sqn_Tyggz

[CUJO_1970]

3 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

That Puma is just the right target for some good ol' Rocket Typhoon!

Well it’s a good target for them to claim, only to find out later they missed it by 100 yards and the Puma just ran out of gas.

[easterling77]

Wow!!!!

The Churchill and the Puma...just looking absolutely awesome

[Freycinet]

Didn't plan to but I will end up buying that Dakota, that's for sure... Iconic plane and that looks like a superb model.

 

BTW, walking through one, it felt just like walking through the B-17. Tiny and quite cramped. Did any of you feel the same or is it just me?

[352ndOscar]

I’d pay real good money for a driveable Greyhound and Puma…….

[moustache]

it's true that these would be interesting vehicles, reconnaissance that could enrich the teamplay... but wheeled vehicles with the current off-road physics: the slightest bump and the vehicle slides backwards to its camp...

[Thad]

28 minutes ago, moustache said:

it's true that these would be interesting vehicles, reconnaissance that could enrich the teamplay... but wheeled vehicles with the current off-road physics: the slightest bump and the vehicle slides backwards to its camp...

 

Yes they would be interesting vehicles in team play but the puma is currently AI control only.

 

I find this unfortunate because I would pay for a player controlled version.