No more guns damaged?

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Not a complaint or anything, but was just wondering why we don't have guns damaged anymore? I remember the guns used to become inoperable after hits to the airframe (especially wing mounted guns) quite often, but it never occurs now? 

 

Shouldn't this be brought back? Just a thought.

Edited April 12, 2022 by Bilbo_Baggins

[Elem]

3 hours ago, Bilbo_Baggins said:

but it never occurs now?

I've experienced it this week and many times prior.

[Bilbo_Baggins]

5 hours ago, Elem said:

I've experienced it this week and many times prior.

 

Which machine? 

 

I haven't seen it for a long time.

Edited April 12, 2022 by Bilbo_Baggins

[Elem]

40 minutes ago, Bilbo_Baggins said:

Which machine? 

IL-2 in particular.

[Calos_01]

I have experienced it yesterday, I was flying P-40.

[357th_KW]

There used to also be cases where you could detonate the cannon ammo in a target's magazines - I don't think I've seen that happen in a year or two.

[oc2209]

2 hours ago, VBF-12_KW said:

There used to also be cases where you could detonate the cannon ammo in a target's magazines - I don't think I've seen that happen in a year or two.

 

It's one of those oddities that's hard to do intentionally, but it might happen when you're hosing a 109/Fw-190 in a Tempest, and it explodes, but you don't really know why unless you watch a recording of it.

 

It's too hard to aim at a 109's magazine intentionally, because it's too close to the fuselage and you're more likely to hit that instead. 190s are too annoying (roll rate) to get a solid hit on their wings unless they're in a turn.

 

Long story short, I tried to detonate a Typhoon's cannons in a Yak-9, because that's the ideal combination of a sluggish target with an accurate attacker. I can't get this level of accuracy in a 109 or a 190 or any other plane:

 

Spoiler

 

There's several AP 20mm hits right through what I assume would be the magazine area. And HE hits. And of course some assorted 12.7mm as well. So if that doesn't do the trick, it must be pretty fluky.

 

For the record, the wing was so badly damaged, it later cracked under G:

 

Spoiler

 

In my experience, it's really difficult to break a Hawker wing (with gunfire alone). They're so tough that even after the above plane violently bellied in, the wing still didn't snap off. It just remained half-broken.

[oc2209]

Yak-9T w/37mm HE, hit between the breech bumps:

 

Spoiler

 

Fw-190A-8 w/30mm mods:

 

Spoiler

 

The wing break is the result of many hits; not the result of an explosion.

 

Question: is the large box sticking out of the wing the 20mm ammo box for the nearest (outboard) cannon?

[BlitzPig_EL]

The magic 8 ball says "yes".

 

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

Gun damage/jam should happen way more often. I have seen it less than 10 times since I purchased BOS. More than 3500 hours. 

 

I think I have seen my windshield being torn away by damage more often than a gun being damaged and jamming. 

 

Damage to the oxygen system happens at least 10 times more often than damage to guns! 

[=FEW=fernando11]

In my experience, wing ammo explosion in the early fw190 are posible, not "common" but has happened to me both in MP and SP.

 

And I mean as in, I was flying the 190.

[oc2209]

On 4/12/2022 at 11:56 AM, VBF-12_KW said:

There used to also be cases where you could detonate the cannon ammo in a target's magazines - I don't think I've seen that happen in a year or two.

 

Just happened to be recording for other reasons, captured a 190 ammo explosion. 99% confidence it is what it looks like:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Screen cap, different angle:

 

Spoiler

 

That fireball where the wing used to be--it's larger than a regular 20mm impact explosion. It's got to be the 190's magazine detonating.