Jackfraser24 Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Hi, I just want to ask what sub-variant the B 25D is in the game. I’ve done a little digging around and found nothing about it. At least on the last development update they let us know that the B 26 was a Block 55 (I also wonder if it was that variant/sub-variant Jason William’s grandfather flew).
Skycat1969 Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Based on the game version's Clayton S-type individual exhaust stacks, it is a B-25D-15 or later subvariant. Additionally, the game version's internal fuel capacity of 3,688L (974 U.S. gallons) further suggests it is one of the later NA-100 "B-25D2" modifications that began with the B-25D-20 subvariant. More information can be found here: North American B-25D Mitchell (joebaugher.com) Since the B-25D is in the game was added as an RAF Mitchell II, here is an extract of an essay I found titled "The North American B-25 Mitchell in the RAF": From the B-25C-15-NA and B-25D-15NC onwards, the exhaust arrangement was changed from the single, short pipe, to the Clayton “S” type individual stacks surrounding the cowlings. The twin venturis on the nose were normally deleted, but could still be seen on some examples – again, check references. From the B-25C-20NA and B-25D-20NC, the windscreen framing was changed to include a clear-vision panel, but again, some exceptions have been seen. Some late model C and D aircraft had the retractable ventral turret deleted, and the opening faired over, with bulged, non-staggered waist windows fitted, similar to those of the later ‘J’ model, each mounting a .50 cal Browning mg. The smaller, circular and oval fuselage side windows were deleted or plated over, but the larger, rectangular windows near the tail were retained. The dorsal turret remained in the same location, aft of the wing, and a built-up tail gun cupola was added, similar to, but smaller than that of the later ‘J’ model. This could house a single .50 cal mg, but the gun was not normally fitted to RAF Mitchells in the ETO, the opening being “blanked off” with a canvas cover. It has not been possible, to date, to precisely identify which Block numbers the latter modifications applied to, so once again, reference photos should be consulted for a particular individual subject aircraft. Note also that earlier aircraft that were later up-dated, for example, being fitted with the later “S” type exhaust arrangement, could, and did, display a mix of “old” and “new” features, such as retaining the side nose glazing ball sockets, but with the nose-mounted .50 cal gun fitted, and often with the flush Navigator’s windows replaced by the bulged type. () <--- Possibly a link to the essay, I dunno, I pasted the URL here and it became an icon. As for the game model, I'm guessing a reference for it was the B-25D-30 at the Moscow Air Force Museum: B-25 History Project. Another possibility is the B-25D-15 at the National War and Resistance Museum of the Netherlands: B-25 History Project BTW, A really interesting article about No. 18 (Netherlands East Indies) Squadron B-25s is here starting on page 71: ADF-Serials Telegraph 2 2 2
Jackfraser24 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Posted April 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Skycat1969 said: Based on the game version's Clayton S-type individual exhaust stacks, it is a B-25D-15 or later subvariant. Additionally, the game version's internal fuel capacity of 3,688L (974 U.S. gallons) further suggests it is one of the later NA-100 "B-25D2" modifications that began with the B-25D-20 subvariant. More information can be found here: North American B-25D Mitchell (joebaugher.com) Since the B-25D is in the game was added as an RAF Mitchell II, here is an extract of an essay I found titled "The North American B-25 Mitchell in the RAF": From the B-25C-15-NA and B-25D-15NC onwards, the exhaust arrangement was changed from the single, short pipe, to the Clayton “S” type individual stacks surrounding the cowlings. The twin venturis on the nose were normally deleted, but could still be seen on some examples – again, check references. From the B-25C-20NA and B-25D-20NC, the windscreen framing was changed to include a clear-vision panel, but again, some exceptions have been seen. Some late model C and D aircraft had the retractable ventral turret deleted, and the opening faired over, with bulged, non-staggered waist windows fitted, similar to those of the later ‘J’ model, each mounting a .50 cal Browning mg. The smaller, circular and oval fuselage side windows were deleted or plated over, but the larger, rectangular windows near the tail were retained. The dorsal turret remained in the same location, aft of the wing, and a built-up tail gun cupola was added, similar to, but smaller than that of the later ‘J’ model. This could house a single .50 cal mg, but the gun was not normally fitted to RAF Mitchells in the ETO, the opening being “blanked off” with a canvas cover. It has not been possible, to date, to precisely identify which Block numbers the latter modifications applied to, so once again, reference photos should be consulted for a particular individual subject aircraft. Note also that earlier aircraft that were later up-dated, for example, being fitted with the later “S” type exhaust arrangement, could, and did, display a mix of “old” and “new” features, such as retaining the side nose glazing ball sockets, but with the nose-mounted .50 cal gun fitted, and often with the flush Navigator’s windows replaced by the bulged type. () <--- Possibly a link to the essay, I dunno, I pasted the URL here and it became an icon. As for the game model, I'm guessing a reference for it was the B-25D-30 at the Moscow Air Force Museum: B-25 History Project. Another possibility is the B-25D-15 at the National War and Resistance Museum of the Netherlands: B-25 History Project BTW, A really interesting article about No. 18 (Netherlands East Indies) Squadron B-25s is here starting on page 71: ADF-Serials Telegraph Thank you Skycat1969
Jackfraser24 Posted July 27, 2022 Author Posted July 27, 2022 Hey, does anyone know how many Bf-110 C-4s were built? I’ve tried researching for that exact 110 sub-variant but I couldn’t find an answer. If someone has books, or generally does know with the answer I am looking for, please share. Thanks.
busdriver Posted July 27, 2022 Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said: Hey, does anyone know how many Bf-110 C-4s were built? I’ve tried researching for that exact 110 sub-variant but I couldn’t find an answer. If someone has books, or generally does know with the answer I am looking for, please share. Thanks. According to this... It's this many...155 Edited July 27, 2022 by busdriver 1
Jackfraser24 Posted July 27, 2022 Author Posted July 27, 2022 8 hours ago, busdriver said: According to this... It's this many...155 Thank you very much. You’re the best
Jackfraser24 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Posted September 4, 2022 La-5/7, MiG-3, Yak 1/7/9/3 series I have tried to research all the different series of each aircraft mentioned above, but I cannot seem to get any answer. I can find the different variants of each plane like the Yak-9 base model, Yak-9T,D, K… but I’m looking for the actual number of that number, like the Yak-1 69 series. If you know the information I am looking for, and if you want, could you give me a list of all the series of each plane? I’ll cut down on the list of planes I put up in the future, if that bothers people.
AEthelraedUnraed Posted September 5, 2022 Posted September 5, 2022 On 9/4/2022 at 7:59 AM, Jackfraser24 said: La-5/7, MiG-3, Yak 1/7/9/3 series I have tried to research all the different series of each aircraft mentioned above, but I cannot seem to get any answer. I can find the different variants of each plane like the Yak-9 base model, Yak-9T,D, K… but I’m looking for the actual number of that number, like the Yak-1 69 series. If you know the information I am looking for, and if you want, could you give me a list of all the series of each plane? I’ll cut down on the list of planes I put up in the future, if that bothers people. But... what do you want to know about them? Series 69 implies that there were 68 series before it. As far as my knowledge about Soviet aircraft goes, many of these series had identical design, while conversely there could be small differences between aircraft of the same series depending on where it was manufactured. So what is it exactly that you're looking for exactly, and for which aircraft? Just list of series for each aircraft is trivial: series 1, series 2, series 3, series 4, et cetera.
CountZero Posted September 5, 2022 Posted September 5, 2022 lol yes , just post, game needs : Yak-1 series 1 Yak-1 series 2 Yak-1 series 3 Yak-1 series 4 Yak-1 series 5 Yak-1 series 6 Yak-1 series 7 Yak-1 series 8 Yak-1 series 9 Yak-1 series 10 Yak-1 series 11 Yak-1 series 12 Yak-1 series 13 Yak-1 series 14 Yak-1 series 15 Yak-1 series 16 Yak-1 series 17 Yak-1 series 18 Yak-1 series 19 Yak-1 series 20 Yak-1 series 21 Yak-1 series 22 Yak-1 series 23 Yak-1 series 24 Yak-1 series 25 Yak-1 series 26 Yak-1 series 27 Yak-1 series 28 Yak-1 series 29 Yak-1 series 30 Yak-1 series 31 Yak-1 series 32 Yak-1 series 33 Yak-1 series 34 Yak-1 series 35 Yak-1 series 36 Yak-1 series 37 Yak-1 series 38 Yak-1 series 39 Yak-1 series 40 Yak-1 series 41 Yak-1 series 42 Yak-1 series 43 Yak-1 series 44 Yak-1 series 45 Yak-1 series 46 Yak-1 series 47 Yak-1 series 48 Yak-1 series 49 Yak-1 series 50 Yak-1 series 51 Yak-1 series 52 Yak-1 series 53 Yak-1 series 54 Yak-1 series 55 Yak-1 series 56 Yak-1 series 57 Yak-1 series 58 Yak-1 series 59 Yak-1 series 60 Yak-1 series 61 Yak-1 series 62 Yak-1 series 63 Yak-1 series 64 Yak-1 series 65 Yak-1 series 66 Yak-1 series 67 Yak-1 series 68 Yak-1 series 70 Yak-1 series 71 Yak-1 series 72 Yak-1 series 73 Yak-1 series 74 Yak-1 series 75 Yak-1 series 76 Yak-1 series 77 Yak-1 series 78 Yak-1 series 79 Yak-1 series 80 Yak-1 series 81 Yak-1 series 82 Yak-1 series 83 Yak-1 series 84 Yak-1 series 85 Yak-1 series 86 Yak-1 series 87 Yak-1 series 88 Yak-1 series 89 Yak-1 series 90 Yak-1 series 91 Yak-1 series 92 Yak-1 series 93 Yak-1 series 94 Yak-1 series 95 Yak-1 series 96 Yak-1 series 97 Yak-1 series 98 Yak-1 series 99 Yak-1 series 100 Yak-1 series 101 Yak-1 series 102 Yak-1 series 103 Yak-1 series 104 Yak-1 series 105 Yak-1 series 106 Yak-1 series 107 Yak-1 series 108 Yak-1 series 109 Yak-1 series 110 Yak-1 series 111 Yak-1 series 112 Yak-1 series 113 Yak-1 series 114 Yak-1 series 115 Yak-1 series 116 Yak-1 series 117 Yak-1 series 118 Yak-1 series 119 Yak-1 series 120 Yak-1 series 121 Yak-1 series 122 Yak-1 series 123 Yak-1 series 124 Yak-1 series 125 Yak-1 series 126 Yak-1 series 128 Yak-1 series 129 Yak-1 series 130 Yak-1 series 131 Yak-1 series 132 Yak-1 series 133 Yak-1 series 134 Yak-1 series 135 Yak-1 series 136 Yak-1 series 137 Yak-1 series 138 Yak-1 series 139 Yak-1 series 140 Yak-1 series 141 Yak-1 series 142 Yak-1 series 143 Yak-1 series 144 Yak-1 series 145 Yak-1 series 146 Yak-1 series 147 Yak-1 series 148 Yak-1 series 149 Yak-1 series 150 Yak-1 series 151 Yak-1 series 152 Yak-1 series 153 Yak-1 series 154 Yak-1 series 155 Yak-1 series 156 Yak-1 series 157 Yak-1 series 158 Yak-1 series 159 Yak-1 series 160 ... Yak-1 series 986 Yak-1 series 987 Yak-1 series 988 Yak-1 series 989 Yak-1 series 990 Yak-1 series 991 Yak-1 series 992 Yak-1 series 993 Yak-1 series 994 Yak-1 series 995 Yak-1 series 996 Yak-1 series 997 Yak-1 series 998 Yak-1 series 999. 7
Avimimus Posted September 5, 2022 Posted September 5, 2022 It is quite hard for a non-Russian speaker to sort all of this out. 5 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: But... what do you want to know about them? Series 69 implies that there were 68 series before it. As far as my knowledge about Soviet aircraft goes, many of these series had identical design, while conversely there could be small differences between aircraft of the same series depending on where it was manufactured. So what is it exactly that you're looking for exactly, and for which aircraft? Just list of series for each aircraft is trivial: series 1, series 2, series 3, series 4, et cetera. So, apparently each series represents a production batch at a factory (often 50 or 100 aircraft for fighters, 20 aircraft for twin engine designs). The full serial for the aircraft combines the factory number the series number and the number within the series. This last number would repeat for each batch (e.g. there would be a Red 2 in Series 1, Series 2, Series 3, etc.) The thing that I'm less certain about is whether two factories producing the same aircraft could use the same series number. Was each series number completely unique? Or was just unique to the factory. So is it possible for factories 153 and 82 to both have a "series 1" Yak-7B? I have yet to sort this out. The more pertinent question is - which series introduced a major production line improvement? On 9/4/2022 at 1:59 AM, Jackfraser24 said: La-5/7, MiG-3, Yak 1/7/9/3 series I have tried to research all the different series of each aircraft mentioned above, but I cannot seem to get any answer. I can find the different variants of each plane like the Yak-9 base model, Yak-9T,D, K… but I’m looking for the actual number of that number, like the Yak-1 69 series. If you know the information I am looking for, and if you want, could you give me a list of all the series of each plane? I’ll cut down on the list of planes I put up in the future, if that bothers people. Apparently one of the factories producing the Yak-9T and K treated these as new aircraft types - and thus restarted the series numbers for them. It appears that other Yak-9 variants (e.g. Yak-9D, Yak-9DD) might have shared the same serial system - although that is just a guess. Certainly I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Yak-9M or Yak-9U might have had their own series. "Airplane # Yak9. - Yak-9 aircraft are produced by factories 153, 82 and 166. The Yak-9 aircraft released by the plant 153 have repeating numbering, i.e. under one number, for example: 0615323 there can be two Yak-9 aircraft, which differ from each other in the installed weapons. At the beginning, aircraft were produced only with the installation of a 20 mm ShVAK cannon, and then they began to produce aircraft with a 37 mm cannon, while the numbering of Yak-9 aircraft began again from the first series. In order to distinguish Yak-9 aircraft with ShVAK cannon from Yak-9 aircraft with 37 mm gun, add the letter D to the first set number, and the letter T to the second. When reporting the number, you should write this: Yak-9 D No. 0615328, or Yak-9 T should be written like this: Yak-9 T No. 0615328. Decoding of number 0615328: 06 - series, 153 - manufacturer, 28 aircraft number in this series. Each series produces 100 aircraft. Yak-9 aircraft manufactured at factory # 166 have full serial number 13166026. Here the first two digits - 13 - mean the series, the next three digits 166 - the manufacturer and the last three digits - 026 - the number of the aircraft in this series. Airplane numbers up to 100 have a zero in front of them. 100 aircraft are produced in each series." Anyway, this might help: Instructions on the numbering of the material part.pdf (massimotessitori.altervista.org)
Rjel Posted September 5, 2022 Posted September 5, 2022 4 hours ago, CountZero said: lol yes , just post, game needs : Yak-1 series 1 Yak-1 series 2 Yak-1 series 3 Yak-1 series 4 Yak-1 series 5 Yak-1 series 6 Yak-1 series 7 Yak-1 series 8 Yak-1 series 9 Yak-1 series 10 Yak-1 series 11 Yak-1 series 12 Yak-1 series 13 Yak-1 series 14 Yak-1 series 15 Yak-1 series 16 Yak-1 series 17 Yak-1 series 18 Yak-1 series 19 Yak-1 series 20 Yak-1 series 21 Yak-1 series 22 Yak-1 series 23 Yak-1 series 24 Yak-1 series 25 Yak-1 series 26 Yak-1 series 27 Yak-1 series 28 Yak-1 series 29 Yak-1 series 30 Yak-1 series 31 Yak-1 series 32 Yak-1 series 33 Yak-1 series 34 Yak-1 series 35 Yak-1 series 36 Yak-1 series 37 Yak-1 series 38 Yak-1 series 39 Yak-1 series 40 Yak-1 series 41 Yak-1 series 42 Yak-1 series 43 Yak-1 series 44 Yak-1 series 45 Yak-1 series 46 Yak-1 series 47 Yak-1 series 48 Yak-1 series 49 Yak-1 series 50 Yak-1 series 51 Yak-1 series 52 Yak-1 series 53 Yak-1 series 54 Yak-1 series 55 Yak-1 series 56 Yak-1 series 57 Yak-1 series 58 Yak-1 series 59 Yak-1 series 60 Yak-1 series 61 Yak-1 series 62 Yak-1 series 63 Yak-1 series 64 Yak-1 series 65 Yak-1 series 66 Yak-1 series 67 Yak-1 series 68 Yak-1 series 70 Yak-1 series 71 Yak-1 series 72 Yak-1 series 73 Yak-1 series 74 Yak-1 series 75 Yak-1 series 76 Yak-1 series 77 Yak-1 series 78 Yak-1 series 79 Yak-1 series 80 Yak-1 series 81 Yak-1 series 82 Yak-1 series 83 Yak-1 series 84 Yak-1 series 85 Yak-1 series 86 Yak-1 series 87 Yak-1 series 88 Yak-1 series 89 Yak-1 series 90 Yak-1 series 91 Yak-1 series 92 Yak-1 series 93 Yak-1 series 94 Yak-1 series 95 Yak-1 series 96 Yak-1 series 97 Yak-1 series 98 Yak-1 series 99 Yak-1 series 100 Yak-1 series 101 Yak-1 series 102 Yak-1 series 103 Yak-1 series 104 Yak-1 series 105 Yak-1 series 106 Yak-1 series 107 Yak-1 series 108 Yak-1 series 109 Yak-1 series 110 Yak-1 series 111 Yak-1 series 112 Yak-1 series 113 Yak-1 series 114 Yak-1 series 115 Yak-1 series 116 Yak-1 series 117 Yak-1 series 118 Yak-1 series 119 Yak-1 series 120 Yak-1 series 121 Yak-1 series 122 Yak-1 series 123 Yak-1 series 124 Yak-1 series 125 Yak-1 series 126 Yak-1 series 128 Yak-1 series 129 Yak-1 series 130 Yak-1 series 131 Yak-1 series 132 Yak-1 series 133 Yak-1 series 134 Yak-1 series 135 Yak-1 series 136 Yak-1 series 137 Yak-1 series 138 Yak-1 series 139 Yak-1 series 140 Yak-1 series 141 Yak-1 series 142 Yak-1 series 143 Yak-1 series 144 Yak-1 series 145 Yak-1 series 146 Yak-1 series 147 Yak-1 series 148 Yak-1 series 149 Yak-1 series 150 Yak-1 series 151 Yak-1 series 152 Yak-1 series 153 Yak-1 series 154 Yak-1 series 155 Yak-1 series 156 Yak-1 series 157 Yak-1 series 158 Yak-1 series 159 Yak-1 series 160 ... Yak-1 series 986 Yak-1 series 987 Yak-1 series 988 Yak-1 series 989 Yak-1 series 990 Yak-1 series 991 Yak-1 series 992 Yak-1 series 993 Yak-1 series 994 Yak-1 series 995 Yak-1 series 996 Yak-1 series 997 Yak-1 series 998 Yak-1 series 999. LOL... I was half way through that list, all the while thinking it was a helluva lot of variants, before I got the joke. ? 1
AEthelraedUnraed Posted September 5, 2022 Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Avimimus said: So, apparently each series represents a production batch at a factory (often 50 or 100 aircraft for fighters, 20 aircraft for twin engine designs). The full serial for the aircraft combines the factory number the series number and the number within the series. This last number would repeat for each batch (e.g. there would be a Red 2 in Series 1, Series 2, Series 3, etc.) The thing that I'm less certain about is whether two factories producing the same aircraft could use the same series number. Was each series number completely unique? Or was just unique to the factory. So is it possible for factories 153 and 82 to both have a "series 1" Yak-7B? I have yet to sort this out. The more pertinent question is - which series introduced a major production line improvement? Thanks for the refresher course . Yes, I know that a "series" is basically a production batch. I was under the impression that this wasn't directly related to the factory, i.e. that 100 aircraft of a "series 1" might be divided into 50 aircraft from factory A and 50 from factory B. But of course, you might be correct in that a series was produced at a single factory. That said, I'm pretty sure certain modifications were factory-specific, or at least started as such. I.e. a series 55 of factory A might have some improvement, which series 56 of factory B doesn't have. Then there's field modifications, some of which were quite popular, and some of which ended up making it into an official series, some way or another. All this is made even worse by the fact that the various Yaks are basically modifications of the same base aircraft in itself. All in all, it doesn't really make sense to just give a list of series, as CountZero humorously pointed out, or even to list all differences between each series. All that really makes sense is saying something like "most aircraft starting from series 42 had this-and-that feature". Which leaves us back at a severely cut-down list of series, which we basically already got with the 69 and 127 in case of the Yak 1.
BlitzPig_EL Posted September 5, 2022 Posted September 5, 2022 And to muddy the waters even more, there were widely varying levels of quality between the different factories. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted September 30, 2022 Author Posted September 30, 2022 I just bought the Ar-234 from steam. They did a brilliant job on aircraft and all but I have one question. Where are the backwards facing pair of cannon guns on it?
1CGS LukeFF Posted September 30, 2022 1CGS Posted September 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said: I just bought the Ar-234 from steam. They did a brilliant job on aircraft and all but I have one question. Where are the backwards facing pair of cannon guns on it? It doesn't have that mod.
Jackfraser24 Posted September 30, 2022 Author Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, LukeFF said: It doesn't have that mod. What do you mean? Do you mean like a different sub-variant of the B-2?
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