Key Bindings.

[MoToad]

Do you have to set your key bindings for each and every aircraft individually? Cause it looks like it and that sucks!

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

No you don't. 

You can bind the common controls and switch engines with a keybind to control the specific engine for instance.

However, if you have enough sliders/axis/buttons in your setup you can bind individual keys to commands controlling separate engines and weapons.

[IckyATLAS]

1 hour ago, MoToad said:

Do you have to set your key bindings for each and every aircraft individually? Cause it looks like it and that sucks!

All key/axis bindings are general to all planes. The difference between planes makes that certain keys/axis will simply not work because a given plane may not have that function available. As an example if you have separate key/axis bindings for engine 1 and engine 2, then those for engine 1 will work on all planes with one two or three engines. Those for engine 2 will work only on planes with two engines or three engines and so on.

You have also the case where the way the function is executed may be different from one plane to another, like for the brake system. Every plane has its peculiarities but they will be activated from the common key/axis settings. You have to check the specification of the plane to know what are the functions available and how they work.

[dburne]

And here that is one feature I wish we had - ability to have individual bindings per aircraft. And separate bindings for axis from button bindings.

Edited March 22, 2022 by dburne

[cardboard_killer]

6 hours ago, MoToad said:

Cause it looks like it and that sucks!

 

As others have said, no, just the opposite. And that sucks!

[MoToad]

I did a bunch of bindings for the P47 and when I flew the P51D, the pitch was reversed. Went back in to find mapping all over the the place and not what I had done. After binding the 47 I made sure to hit save. I have the T16000 HOTAS and even without a mod button it looks like i can pretty well fit all I need for ww2 aircraft. Track NP is on the way. Slow boat from China.

[Jaegermeister]

15 minutes ago, MoToad said:

I did a bunch of bindings for the P47 and when I flew the P51D, the pitch was reversed. Went back in to find mapping all over the the place and not what I had done. After binding the 47 I made sure to hit save. I have the T16000 HOTAS and even without a mod button it looks like i can pretty well fit all I need for ww2 aircraft. Track NP is on the way. Slow boat from China.

 

The only issue I have found is that certain British aircraft and I believe the Macchi have mixture or throttle levers that move backwards which looks weird in VR. The control axis mapping is the same for all though.

[MoToad]

All right. Fresh cup in the morning, another try and I got it. All good, going flying.

[jollyjack]

Compared to keybindings setup with DCS (all must be set or adapted almost for each plane) IMO the IL2 system is better for general and occasional gamers ...

[Hipsu]

Funny, both DCS and IL-2 have their drawbacks it seems. In IL-2s case, if you have just one or two Battles it would be nice to know from a glance which controls are applicable to your set of planes and which can be ignored for now. That's one of the reasons I've made this handy-dandy spreadsheet 

 

 

[Patricks]

This came up on my search for Adjustable Stabilizer Key bindings issues, so I'll ask here before I start a new post. I've started flying the BF-109's (F2/F4) more lately and I can not get the Adj. Stab wheel to move from the "2" position. I have my Up/Down trim (POV Hat on the TM Warthog throttle) set for this in Keybindings (it is also the Elevator Up/Down trim for other planes) but 0 movement in the plane. I tried removing the Column 1 defaults and assigning there, tried the Up/Down Arrow keys, etc. and nothing. Checked to make sure (other than elevator trim) they were not assigned anywhere else (like camera views), all clear. All other keybindings seem fine, including the flaps wheel next to it.. any idea what I am missing?

[Art-J]

19 minutes ago, Icer said:

This came up on my search for Adjustable Stabilizer Key bindings issues, so I'll ask here before I start a new post. I've started flying the BF-109's (F2/F4) more lately and I can not get the Adj. Stab wheel to move from the "2" position. I have my Up/Down trim (POV Hat on the TM Warthog throttle) set for this in Keybindings (it is also the Elevator Up/Down trim for other planes) but 0 movement in the plane. I tried removing the Column 1 defaults and assigning there, tried the Up/Down Arrow keys, etc. and nothing. Checked to make sure (other than elevator trim) they were not assigned anywhere else (like camera views), all clear. All other keybindings seem fine, including the flaps wheel next to it.. any idea what I am missing?

 

I don't own -F, and for trimming I use keyboard only, but based on my experience in other 109s, you have to bind "adjustable stabilizer axis" command to your POV Hat (not the "adjustable stabilizer switch" or "elevator trim switch commands"... or should I say, these too, but they'll work for all the other airplanes). In spite of what the name suggests, this command can be bound to digital input as well (keys, buttons, switches).

Edited March 25, 2022 by Art-J

[Ghost666]

Did you assign the Adjustable Stabilizer axis........As Art-J said, He beat me to the punch.

[Patricks]

Ok, I have it working now. I had the Adj Stab SWITCH:Up/Down bound (1 binding each) and I needed the Adjustable Stabilizer AXIS bound (2 bindings). Set the Nose Up/Nose Down POV hat on the AXIS and it works perfectly... thanks!

Edited March 25, 2022 by Icer

[Yogiflight]

14 hours ago, Icer said:

I had the Adj Stab SWITCH:Up/Down bound

You only need that one for the FW 190s.

[Patricks]

41 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

You only need that one for the FW 190s.

 

Ok, so I need to bind those along with the axis for the 109s? That makes 0 sense, why would they do that?

[BlitzPig_EL]

I have my 109 stabilizer bound to the unused throttle wheel on my CH Pro Throttle.

[Yogiflight]

9 hours ago, Icer said:

why would they do that?

Because the 109s were trimmed with a wheel, the 190s with two buttons (A3) or a switch (A5/8). But you can bind both, axis and buttons, to the same buttons or the same positions of your POV Hat.

[Patricks]

39 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

Because the 109s were trimmed with a wheel, the 190s with two buttons (A3) or a switch (A5/8). But you can bind both, axis and buttons, to the same buttons or the same positions of your POV Hat.

 

I get that, but they seem to want to use a "for all planes" type of key binding (vs a separate setup for every plane like DCS, which I prefer to be honest). Whatever, as long as I can get the function I'm good!

[Jaegermeister]

Not to beat a dead horse, but it's better with the controls all the same from plane to plane in VR, because not only do you have to know what they are, you have to know where without seeing them. Mapping the same controls to different planes would just be a PITA and not much else.

 

Jet sims are so plane specific and technically detailed that you would have to spend way more time in a single plane to become proficient anyway, so you would have plenty of time to map those plane specific controls as you learn them.  

 

I believe the adjustable stabilizer axis also applies to the Me262

 

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by Jaegermeister

[Yogiflight]

13 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

I believe the adjustable stabilizer axis also applies to the Me262

And the Ju 52, too.