Great Battles Aircraft Details App

[marcobona]

I don’t understand…in the app the standard weight for spitfire XIV is 3593 yet!

Edited September 15, 2022 by marcobona

[Roland_HUNter]

1 hour ago, marcobona said:

I don’t understand…in the app the standard weight for spitfire XIV is 3593 yet!

It should be 3862.7 kg.

[marcobona]

1 hour ago, Roland_HUNter said:

It should be 3862.7 kg.

 

I referred to this official table for weights:

 

[Roland_HUNter]

25 minutes ago, marcobona said:

 

I referred to this official table for weights:

 

That is epic, but in the game its still  3862.7 kg...

This reports says 8400 LB.
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/JF319_Report_P3792.pdf

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/jf319.html
And ingame we have Spit XIV with 50 cals, not with 303.
And your report with maximum weight means: without bomb.

It says: 3337 kg without PILOT, OIL, Fuel, ammuniton.
You think those things are only 256 kg?
Impossible.

[marcobona]

55 minutes ago, Roland_HUNter said:

but in the game its still  3862.7 kg...

 

Ok. But what about max weight? I've searched about it in several sites and I've found 8500 lb (3855.5 kg).

 

Spitfire Mk XIV Testing (spitfireperformance.com)

 

Supermarine Spitfire (aviation-history.com)

 

With max weight at 3855 kg, the standard weight (3863 kh) get from the sim is not compatible!

 

[Roland_HUNter]

1 hour ago, marcobona said:

 

Ok. But what about max weight? I've searched about it in several sites and I've found 8500 lb (3855.5 kg).

 

Spitfire Mk XIV Testing (spitfireperformance.com)

 

Supermarine Spitfire (aviation-history.com)

 

With max weight at 3855 kg, the standard weight (3863 kh) get from the sim is not compatible!

 

This is an excellent link:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/rb141weights.html
With ammo, fuel etc:
8488 LB.
With fuel drop tank or bomb:
8744-9278 LB.

This is Matches the data provided in the game.

[marcobona]

6 minutes ago, Roland_HUNter said:

This is Matches the data provided in the game.

 

No. If the data provided in the is "Standard weight: 3862.7 kg" = 8515.7 lb, with a Maximum TO weight of 8500lb (4.5 - "Maximum permissible all-up (i.e. take-off) weight for all forms of flying...........8500 lb.) this is impossible! Il the game provide this standard one, then I don't know what TO weight put in my app as valid data!

[Roland_HUNter]

1 hour ago, marcobona said:

 

No. If the data provided in the is "Standard weight: 3862.7 kg" = 8515.7 lb, with a Maximum TO weight of 8500lb (4.5 - "Maximum permissible all-up (i.e. take-off) weight for all forms of flying...........8500 lb.) this is impossible! Il the game provide this standard one, then I don't know what TO weight put in my app as valid data!

Sorry, but did you read the link what are you linked?
That says everything without doubt.

[marcobona]

25 minutes ago, Roland_HUNter said:

Sorry, but did you read the link what are you linked?
That says everything without doubt.

 

Yes, I do. It says weight  "As typical Service load.........8488 lb". But It says also "Maximum permissible all-up (i.e. take-off) weight for all forms of flying...........8500 lb".

So, how is it possible to differentiate 12 lbs between standard weight and take-off weight?

 

Anyway, 3862,7 kg = 8515,8 lb is too high as standard weight

Edited September 15, 2022 by marcobona

[Roland_HUNter]

2 hours ago, marcobona said:

 

Yes, I do. It says weight  "As typical Service load.........8488 lb". But It says also "Maximum permissible all-up (i.e. take-off) weight for all forms of flying...........8500 lb".

So, how is it possible to differentiate 12 lbs between standard weight and take-off weight?

 

Anyway, 3862,7 kg = 8515,8 lb is too high as standard weight

So you not read this.
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/rb141weights.html

Man....you not reading your OWN source....it says what I saying.
Why do you not accept i?! o.O

[marcobona]

1 hour ago, Roland_HUNter said:

So you not read this.
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/rb141weights.html

Man....you not reading your OWN source....it says what I saying.
Why do you not accept i?! o.O

 

Ok. Sorry, but in this days I'm very busy with my job and my app update (Normandy Scenario, English and Spanish version, and so on).

So, resuming...

 

Standard weight:         8488 lb = 3850 kg

Max weight:                 9278 lb =  4208 kg

 

What about this data?

 

[Roland_HUNter]

1 hour ago, marcobona said:

 

Ok. Sorry, but in this days I'm very busy with my job and my app update (Normandy Scenario, English and Spanish version, and so on).

So, resuming...

 

Standard weight:         8488 lb = 3850 kg

Max weight:                 9278 lb =  4208 kg

 

What about this data?

 

Those are the correct datas.

[NN_Elanion]

Wonderfull job: thx ! 

[marcobona]

New english version 9.12.6.5 released.

 

- Added default Paint Schemes of all flyable planes.

- Added Normandy scenario.

- Fixed some bugs and data values.

 

Soon the spanish version will be released.

[Habu]

Thank you for the update, and for adding the skin name.

 

About the skin, i forgot to say that it was the name of the file, because in the editor, we see only the name of the file, not the name of the skin. But it's a good thing to have the name of the skin in the game.

 

Here is what i would like for the name :

 

 

 

[Youtch]

You are app is amazing and it is becoming a must have!

 

Many thanks for it!

[No_85_Gramps]

Just tried this out and it is fantastic! Thank you!

[pjmack11377]

I think this is great!

[marcobona]

38 minutes ago, Habu said:

About the skin, i forgot to say that it was the name of the file, because in the editor, we see only the name of the file, not the name of the skin. But it's a good thing to have the name of the skin in the game.

All the skins in my app are ordered sequentially according to the file names in the editor. So ‘default’ is the first picture, ‘spitfiremkxiv_blank_01’ is the second…and so on.

[Habu]

27 minutes ago, marcobona said:

All the skins in my app are ordered sequentially according to the file names in the editor. So ‘default’ is the first picture, ‘spitfiremkxiv_blank_01’ is the second…and so on.

I already have some surprise. ?

[Obelix]

Thanks for this wonderfull and amazing job!

[Roland_HUNter]

Epic work!
1 observation:
G-14 white 21 skin is showing nothing.

[marcobona]

I’ll fix it soon. Thanks for reporting.

[marcobona]

43 minutes ago, Roland_HUNter said:

G-14 white 21 skin is showing nothing.

 

Fix it.

[Youtch]

This application shall become a sticky thread.

[marcobona]

New spanish version 9.12.6.5 released. It has the same features as the english one.

 

[NN_Elanion]

Suggestions if you have the time and inclination:

In the same idea as Habu: For the Mission Edition it would be convenient to have the 2 names of the skins displayed:
1- historical name.
2- file name.
This would simplify the work a bit. Otherwise you have to open the viewer to check the chosen skin while editing.

 

If possible: the possibility of enlarging more or less the global display window. With the text also enlarging to fit screens between full HD and UHD.

Congratulations again for this great work.

Grazie.

[marcobona]

1 hour ago, NN_Elanion said:

Suggestions if you have the time and inclination:

In the same idea as Habu: For the Mission Edition it would be convenient to have the 2 names of the skins displayed:
1- historical name.
2- file name.
This would simplify the work a bit. Otherwise you have to open the viewer to check the chosen skin while editing.

 

 

 

Something like that?

 

 

[Habu]

44 minutes ago, marcobona said:

 

 

 

Something like that?

 

 

 

 

Yes, it would be cool.

 

Maybe, check the Spitfire mkV with my screenshot from the editor (on my previous post above), if the name of the file is the same. It's that one we would like, because it's easier for us to select it in the editor.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Habu

[marcobona]

48 minutes ago, Habu said:

Yes, it would be cool.

 

Maybe, check the Spitfire mkV with my screenshot from the editor (on my previous post above), if the name of the file is the same. It's that one we would like, because it's easier for us to select it in the editor.

 

Well. I'll working on it. Stay connected...

[marcobona]

New english version 9.13.6.5 released.

 

- Added in default Paint Schemes the ability to select skins by editor file name (as requested by members) 

- Fixed some bugs and data values.

 

Soon the spanish version will be released.

Edited September 21, 2022 by marcobona

[marcobona]

New spanish version 9.13.6.5 released. It has the same features as the english one.

[Habu]

Thank you for the new version and the addition of the skin name from the editor. ?

[UBB-Schmusetiger]

Thank you very much for this amazing piece of work! As a fan of Hardball's former tool I was looking out for something similar since ever.

[marcobona]

New english & spanish version 9.14.6.5 released.

 

- Added the ability to view maps.

 

[Bando]

Maps added. This is really great!

Thanks Marcobona.

[Habu]

5 hours ago, marcobona said:

New english & spanish version 9.14.6.5 released.

 

- Added the ability to view maps.

 

Thank you.

 

About Normandy map, there are two version, but only one in your ap.

[marcobona]

23 minutes ago, Habu said:

About Normandy map, there are two version, but only one in your ap.

 

Yes, it's true. But I didn't find any difference between them. Below the link with the two maps:

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlkhZnPx_C8ojYxx7nK_P_OEZZ_Uyw?e=oQ5OfU

 

 

[Habu]

The difference is that one is before the d day, and the other one after. The change is that before, there are less airfields.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Habu

[marcobona]

5 minutes ago, Habu said:

The diffreence is that one is before the d day, and the other one after. The change is that before, there are less airfields.

Ok. I noticed it, but I haven’t considered that as relevant for the app. But, no problem..I’ll add the missing one as soon as possible.

Edited September 29, 2022 by marcobona