WWII Aircraft Suggested Plane List

[Avimimus]

Ones we think are possible or ones we wish were possible?

[Leftenant_Soap]

4 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

The latter. Show me what you got.

[Hotaru_Ito]

ALL planes I'd be willing to buy as collectors?! That'd be a long list, even excluding WWI planes for some reason. I'd probably buy basically any plane we don't already have, assuming the prices stay about where they are now. Strong preference for new types or relatively distant variants (e.g. SCW era 109, I-153, C.200, etc). Similar variants to ones we already have (e.g. G-10, A-9, bubble-top Spit XIV) would tend to go on the wait-for-a-sale pile.

[BraveSirRobin]

@Jackfraser24 this is your moment.  

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by BraveSirRobin

[AndyJWest]

Walrus.

PBY.

 

...and then a long long list. Basically, everything but the Blackburn Roc. 

[Avimimus]

I'm leaving out bombers because they're only likely to be viable if part of a new module (so no Ju-188, Tu-2, Il-4, Do-217E etc.)

I'll also leave out ones which clearly require a new scenario (e.g. Europe 1948-1955, Korea, Pacific, Gulf of Venice/Isonzo aircraft, Battle of France, Mediterranean etc.) I'm leaving out aircraft from the late war of eastern Europe (on the assumption they'll be part of a module.

 

For WWII what springs to mind as exciting:
- Tomahawk (early P-40 in Russian/British service)
- I-153 (biplane, good ground attack platform into 1943)
- Pe-3 (Ju-88C equivalent)
- He-162 (high technology and simple production)
- Fw-189 (artillery spotter, well-armed)
- Fi-156 (nimble/small artillery spotter)

 

I think all of the above would add quite a bit in terms of unique gameplay experiences (with the Tomahawk probably providing the least novelty).

 

There are others of course: Mustang I/Ia, A-20G-1, Ju-87D-5, LaGG-3 (variants), P-39Q, Beaufighter, Arado Ar 196. There are also some other 1942 variants that are missing (e.g. Fw-190A4) but they could be saved for a Leningrad scenario.

 

Flying Circus:
- Roland D.VIb (produced in similar numbers to the SSW, outperforms the Fokker D.VII, but handles more like an Albatross)
- Morane-Saulnier AI (French parasol fighter with a high wing-loading. Withdrawn after a few months but very fast).
- Airco DH.5 (falls between the N.17 and the Pup in performance, exceptional forward view due to reversed wing stagger).
- Early war French two-seaters (Caudron G.IV, Morane-Saulnier L, Voisin V.III)

 

 

42 minutes ago, DD_Soapy said:

The latter. Show me what you got.

 

Okay - I'll think about it and let my preference run wild. If I could pick anything - I might suggest the Salmson-Moineau S.M.1. It would represent the French three seat fighters (of which well over 750 were produced). However, it is the strangest of the lot. The Bristol Boxkite (WWI trainer, similar to the Farman III) would be lovely - and no need to model a cockpit.

 

Part of me is curious what the Blohm und Voss P.212/215 would be like at this level of aerodynamic fidelity.

 

The NIAI LK1 Fanera would be interesting (interwar blended wing design with a U-2VS/Po-2 engine - several in service) ... but that is straying into civil aircraft... in which case an interwar glider sim would be pretty neat.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Avimimus

[Leftenant_Soap]

5 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

The NIAI LK1 Fanera

 

I saw something new today! I like it.

[Avimimus]

3 minutes ago, DD_Soapy said:

I saw something new today! I like it.

 

Glad I could bring something. It is an interesting design - an enclosed space with multiple passengers in a blended wing - and with essentially the same engine as the U-2VS! I'm still trying to figure out if the pilot could see out to the right at all by leaning (the engine doesn't go that far back). It would have had very good downward visibility for landing, but poor visibility to the right.

 

It was also briefly a movie star:

 

 

 

I was also surprised to see that video footage survives of the Salmson-Moineau SM.1:

 

[Eisenfaustus]

As I'm only flying SP I'd only buy planes I could fly there - and I'm now listing only planes I'd like to fly not those I might buy at some point to support the project.

 

Ju 87 B-2

Ju 87 D-5

Ju 188

Fw 189

Fw 190 A-9

Fi 156

Bf 109 G-10

Do 17

Do 217

 

For the Ta 152 H-1 I'd love if they made the same arrangement they made for the Fw 190 A-3: It actually fought tempests and spitfires so they could put a squadron on the Bodenplatte map.

 

There might be more I'd actually fly I just can't think of right now.

 

 

[WVS-TheMowe]

why don't ya just make Ur own

don't ya find singleplayer boring

repetitive 

don't you yearn for a little spontaneity?

like mp is as real as it can get

[SYN_Ricky]

Spitfire Mk.I or II

Spit Mk. IX early 1942-43 

Typhoon early model

Beaufighter Mk. VI

Blenheim Mk.IV

Mosquito Mk.IV 

B-25

B-26

P-38 G

Ju-87B

Bf-109 E3 or E4

Hs-123

Do-17

Macchi M.C.200

I-153

Yak-3

 

[sevenless]

Everything which fills existing gaps in the published modules and can be integrated into the career modes of the modules.

 

BoM:

- Stuka B2/R2

- I-153

- SB-2

- DB-3

- HS-123

 

BoS

- Yak 7B (bubbletop)

- IL-4

 

BoK

- Stuka D5

 

BoN

- Spitfire IXb (LF Mk IXc)

- Spitfire VII

- Spitfire VIII

- Mustang II/IIA

- A-20 G

- Mosquito B Mk IV/XVI

- Bf-109 G6/AS

 

BoBP

- P61 Black Widow

- A26 Invader

- Bf-109 G14/AS

- Bf-109 G10

- Fw-190 A9

- Fw-190 D11 / D13

[IckyATLAS]

I would love to have the Gloster Gladiator and the Fairey Swordfish with torpedo bombing capability.

It is a plane that was more from WWI era design but was so successful that it was active in whole WWII.

It would be a real fun to fly this plane. A combination of Circus and GB.

Edited November 17, 2022 by IckyATLAS

[sevenless]

That one would fit perfectly into a 1940/41 Greece/Crete module if they ever decide to do one.

[Strewth]

F4U (any)
F4F (any)
F6F (any)
Beaufighter (any)
Zero (any)
Kate (any}
etc, etc.

 

[sevenless]

On 11/8/2022 at 11:18 PM, 76IAP-Black said:

Add the BMW 801 and delete the gondola...

 

Was it even historic?

 

Yes. It was called Ju-88 S0, S1 and S2

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88#Ju_88S

Ju 88S[edit]

High-speed bomber series based on Ju 88 A-4 but with ventral Bola gondola omitted, smoothly glazed nose with radial-ribbed supports instead of the "beetle's eye" of the A-version, and GM-1nitrous-oxide boost, fastest of all variants.

Ju 88 S-0

Fitted with two BMW 801 G-2 engines, single 13 mm (0.512 in) dorsal gun and 14 SD65 65 kg (143 lb) bombs.

Ju 88 S-1

Fitted with two BMW 801 G-2 engines, the GM-1 boost system and could carry two SD1000 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bombs externally.

Ju 88 S-2

Fitted with two turbocharged BMW 801J engines, wooden bomb bay extension as used on the Ju 88 A-15.

Ju 88 S-3

Fitted with two 1,671 kW (2,241 hp) Jumo 213A engines and GM-1 boost system.

http://www.aviation-history.com/junkers/ju88.html

Edited November 15, 2022 by sevenless

[Guster]

Spitfire Mk II(a/b)

Spitfire Mk IXb

Do 17 Z-2

Ju-87 B1/2

Tiger Moth

Boeing-Stearman

Tomahawk IIb/c

Macchi C.200

 

A small desert map.

[Tendo]

Gloster Meteor

M.S.406

Dewoitine D.520

N1K1-J/N1K2-J

Nakajima Ki-43

Nakajima Ki-44

Nakajima Ki-84

Kawasaki Ki-61

Edited November 15, 2022 by Tendo

[Halon]

You can keep your realistic likelihoods to yourself... Here's what I would love to see in an ideal world 

 

TB-3

I-153

TU-2

Lancaster

Short Sterling

Swordfish

Avenger (FAA Colours)

Wildcat (FAA Colours)

B-17

CR.32

CR.42 Falco 

SM.79 Sparviero

Ki-61 Hien

[BlitzPig_EL]

OK I'll play.

 

Curtiss Hawk III

Hawk 75

P40B

P40N

Brewster Buffalo

P51A

Ki 27

Ki 43

Ki 84

Ki 61

A5M

A6M 2N

H8K

PBY

F4F

FM2

CR 42

Mc 200

Hs 123

I 153

Gloster Gladiator

D 520

 

[Eisvogel]

6 hours ago, sevenless said:

 

Yes. It was called Ju-88 S0, S1 and S2

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88#Ju_88S

Ju 88S[edit]

High-speed bomber series based on Ju 88 A-4 but with ventral Bola gondola omitted, smoothly glazed nose with radial-ribbed supports instead of the "beetle's eye" of the A-version, and GM-1nitrous-oxide boost, fastest of all variants.

Ju 88 S-0

Fitted with two BMW 801 G-2 engines, single 13 mm (0.512 in) dorsal gun and 14 SD65 65 kg (143 lb) bombs.

Ju 88 S-1

Fitted with two BMW 801 G-2 engines, the GM-1 boost system and could carry two SD1000 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bombs externally.

Ju 88 S-2

Fitted with two turbocharged BMW 801J engines, wooden bomb bay extension as used on the Ju 88 A-15.

Ju 88 S-3

Fitted with two 1,671 kW (2,241 hp) Jumo 213A engines and GM-1 boost system.

http://www.aviation-history.com/junkers/ju88.html

Hi, a little correction : indeed the S variant was the fastest of the 88, however it seems only the S-1 used GM-1 operationnaly, S- 0, S-2 was only prototypes and S-3 was probably the fastest of them (even without GM1) with 600 km/h at ~6000m with combat power in clean configuration from obscure estimations and different sources.

 

I don't recall exactly the numbers but the S-1 was only an Umbau of other 88 with less than 100 made from 1943 to 1944 and about 300 S-3 were delivered from July to august 1944 to mainly KG66 and LG1 

 

 

I would love more 88 (and 188, 217) variants so many forgotten variants for this beauty...

[Rjel]

A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? 
 

In any case, I’ll take one of these - 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Rjel
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[CountZero]

3 minutes ago, Rjel said:

A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? 
 

In any case, I’ll take one of these - 

 

When your home town airplane factory have to mutch scrap and your bored, you make this legendary airplane.

[Rjel]

If I remember correctly, it was built by Goodyear with the idea of it being used as a way to transport fuel. 

[CountZero]

1 minute ago, Rjel said:

If I remember correctly, it was built by Goodyear with the idea of it being used as a way to transport fuel. 

Didnt know, to me it just looked like there was extra parts of airplanes, of many differant production airplanes , and they just decided to merge them together into that ?

Edited November 15, 2022 by CountZero

[BlitzPig_EL]

Jane's, I don't need no stinking Jane's man!!

 

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[Rjel]

5 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Jane's, I don't need no stinking Jane's man!!

 

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Me either. While I’m not an aviation expert, I play one on the forums. 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Rjel
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[Gambit21]

14 minutes ago, Rjel said:

A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? 
 

In any case, I’ll take one of these - 

 

‘raises hand’

Don’t need it.

 

Aside from all the Zero’s and P-40’s and Oscars

H8K Emily.

PBY

Jake

Mavis

Pete

 

 

A6m2-N Rufe of course.

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Noorduyn Norseman.

Ford Trimotor.

Curtis C-46.

Fokker DVII aü.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by FlyingShark

[Bremspropeller]

10 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

It actually fought tempests and spitfires so they could put a squadron on the Bodenplatte map

 

It fought way outside of the boundaries of that map, though. Now, if we had a "Berlin map"...

 

 

I find it hard to narrow the amount of desired collector planes down to a handy list - almost too many aircraft to count them all.

 

 

 

[Rjel]

36 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

‘raises hand’

Don’t need it.

 

Aside from all the Zero’s and P-40’s and Oscars

H8K Emily.

PBY

Jake

Mavis

Pete

 

 

A6m2-N Rufe of course.

What was the name of the Japanese tri motor bomber??? I remember now. The Marsha, Marsha, Marsha bomber. 

[SqueakyS]

Mine would be

 

Do 17

Ar 196

 

Beaufort

 

Planes I would love to see but can't imagine they will ever be implemented.

[dbuile]

I might be weird, but:

 

Ar 196

He 115

Do 17Z

Bf 110 G4 night fighter with realistic radar scopes and radio navigation... like I said, maybe weird, but I wish I could act as Bordfunker.

 

And planes to leisurely fly around in:

He 70 Blitz

Some kind of trainer like Buecker Jungmann

Maybe a Fw 56

Ta 154 Moskito

[Legioneod]

B-26

B-25

P-40B

Anything Japanese 

[MAJ_stug41]

GIMME GIMME GIMME a nightfighter after midnight, and all the radar mechanics that go with iiiit!

 

 

[oc2209]

This isn't a suggestion thread. It's a general discussion thread. I don't see why it had to be dumped in this part of the forum so quickly. As if so much else is going on in the main page aside from whining about the lack of communication regarding the next DLC.

 

Anyway...

 

4 hours ago, Rjel said:

A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge?

 

I own a Janes, but to be honest, I haven't looked at it since I was like 15. Once you get hardcore about aviation, the details just aren't complete enough in most cases.

 

I didn't include any Pacific stuff in my list, since that would probably double the length of it. Oh, and I completely forgot Italian planes.

 

What I came up with was truly just off the top of my head without getting into the nitty-gritty.

[DerRechtsanwalt]

Ju-188

B-26 Marauder

Do-17Z

FW200 Condor

B-17E/F/G

B-24 Liberator

FW-189

[oc2209]

2 hours ago, dbuile said:

And planes to leisurely fly around in:

He 70 Blitz

Some kind of trainer like Buecker Jungmann

 

 

Yeah, there's no need to be confined to combat planes, really. I like the thought of flying advanced gliders, for instance. Unfortunately, to be accurate, that would require more complex thermal and wind mechanics.

[Charon]

Torpedo Bombing?

[AndyJWest]

57 minutes ago, Charon said:

Torpedo Bombing?

 

Yeah, I'd like to see a source for that. And a photo of the groove they cut in the runway to get it to work...

 

Quick bodge to show the problem. I think I've got the scale about right. The MK XII torpedo (as used with the Swordfish etc) was 16 ft 3 in long. The Gladiator was 27 ft 5 inches.

Edited November 16, 2022 by AndyJWest