Opencomposite... Thank you and quick question

[KPnutskgwanchos]

Thanks to all who suggested trying this. A massive jump in fps and smoothness for me. High 30s to high 70s now. I'm using a Q2 and 2070s. I'm just struggling with how to start it. Should I actually start Steam VR and select il2 from in there or select from in oculus?.... Only way I'm successfully doing it at the moment is start oculus (cable link) then start il2 from my actual desktop altho that starts it in 2d... And then in settings tick the VR option then the exit and restart game option.... Then it starts in VR without steam.... And advice please? 

[dburne]

No need to start Steam VR if using Open Composite.

[Youtch]

OpenComposite is only for Q2 or it makes sense as well for HP Reverb G2?

 

[dburne]

33 minutes ago, Youtch said:

OpenComposite is only for Q2 or it makes sense as well for HP Reverb G2?

 

 

Only for Oculus device.

[KPnutskgwanchos]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

No need to start Steam VR if using Open Composite.

OK great.... And how do you start Il2 in opencomposite? 

Edited February 25, 2022 by KPnutskgwanchos

[dburne]

1 hour ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

OK great.... And how do you start Il2 in opencomposite? 

 

If you have Open Composite set as the default runtime ( set in Open Composite) , and VR checked in graphics options for IL-2 - the game will launch and run through Open Composite.

[KPnutskgwanchos]

6 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

If you have Open Composite set as the default runtime ( set in Open Composite) , and VR checked in graphics options for IL-2 - the game will launch and run through Open Composite.

I agree... But where do you launch it from? 

[dburne]

20 minutes ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

I agree... But where do you launch it from? 

 

You talking about launching Open Composite? You don't, all it is is a runtime switcher. Use it to change the runtime from Oculus Steam VR to Open Composite, then close it. 

Launch the game from you desktop ( with headset turned on obviously), game loads put headset on and go fly and have fun.

 

Sorry I misspoke above, change the runtime from Steam VR to Open Composite.

Anyway you do have Open Composite installed? Download the system wide installer of Open Composite.

Then you just use it to change the runtime from Steam VR to Open Composite. You can then close Open Composite and leave it closed, only needs to be done once unless you want to switch it back to Steam VR for any reason.

 

Edited February 25, 2022 by dburne

[KPnutskgwanchos]

11 hours ago, dburne said:

 

You talking about launching Open Composite? You don't, all it is is a runtime switcher. Use it to change the runtime from Oculus Steam VR to Open Composite, then close it. 

Launch the game from you desktop ( with headset turned on obviously), game loads put headset on and go fly and have fun.

 

Sorry I misspoke above, change the runtime from Steam VR to Open Composite.

Anyway you do have Open Composite installed? Download the system wide installer of Open Composite.

Then you just use it to change the runtime from Steam VR to Open Composite. You can then close Open Composite and leave it closed, only needs to be done once unless you want to switch it back to Steam VR for any reason.

 

Thanks... Really appreciate your time... I have successfully installed opencomposite and I can run il2 in VR with it and its great. Only problem I have is that when I start Il2 from my real desktop as you suggest it starts in 2d mode. I then have to go into il2 settings, tick VR mode and then restart game.... Then it successfully restarts back into VR mode. Could it be a cfg file setting? 

[dburne]

4 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Thanks... Really appreciate your time... I have successfully installed opencomposite and I can run il2 in VR with it and its great. Only problem I have is that when I start Il2 from my real desktop as you suggest it starts in 2d mode. I then have to go into il2 settings, tick VR mode and then restart game.... Then it successfully restarts back into VR mode. Could it be a cfg file setting? 

 

Sounds like a permissions issue. Do you have IL-2 set to " run as administrator" ?

[KPnutskgwanchos]

I believe so ... here are the details for the desktop Icon for IL2

 

 

It really is as if the VR check box in IL2 settings gets somehow "unchecked" so it always starts in 2d mode then I have to recheck the VR check box and restart the game ... is there a VR on/off setting in the startup.cfg file ? .... its not 3dhud is it ?

[dburne]

I don't know that is very odd...

 

[Goffik]

21 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

is there a VR on/off setting in the startup.cfg file ? .... its not 3dhud is it ?

 

There probably should be, but if there is then I can't find it. 3dhud doesn't sound right to me, but I can't find anything that does. I always start the game via Steam's VR option though, so I don't actually have this issue.

[-332FG-Gordon200]

You can select the VR option under the Settings tab of the IL2 launch/updater on your desktop.

In the config startup file VR option is or_enable = 1.

[KPnutskgwanchos]

1 hour ago, QB.Gordon200 said:

You can select the VR option under the Settings tab of the IL2 launch/updater on your desktop.

In the config startup file VR option is or_enable = 1.

Thanks QB ... My Desktop IL2 shortcut for launching the game has a Steam URL .... and my cfg contains or_enable = 1

So if I launch from this Shortcut it always starts in 2d then I have to go into the Settings to retick VR then restart game and it goes into VR no probs

 

If I launch IL2 direct from the IL2 exe in the GAME folder then it also launches 2d and I also dont have any Steam content ... just the stuff I brought from the website

 

[Goffik]

8 hours ago, QB.Gordon200 said:

In the config startup file VR option is or_enable = 1.

 

That line didn't appear for me until I deleted the file and started the game, to regenerate it. Weird.

 

6 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

My Desktop IL2 shortcut for launching the game has a Steam URL .... and my cfg contains or_enable = 1

 

Is your startup.cfg read-only?

 

 

Edit: Out of interest I created a shortcut, set or_enable = 1, and made the file read-only. Using the shortcut, IL-2 starts in 2D, not VR. So I don't know what the issue is, but it's not unique to you.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Goffik
New info.

[Riderocket]

try open "launcher.exe" in the bin/game folder and enable VR box from there.

 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Riderocket

[KPnutskgwanchos]

Thanks all .... I could not find the Launcher exe in my Game folder but I have now found a solution ... If I open Steam on my desktop I can select how I want to open IL2, 2d or VR ... doing it this way doesnot then open Steam VR so it lets me run in composite ...  Im thinking maybe its time I got Virtual Desktop for Oculus?

  

[Goffik]

45 minutes ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Thanks all .... I could not find the Launcher exe in my Game folder but I have now found a solution ...

 

Hmm... well that's the way I always start IL-2 so I know that works. I assumed you already knew that but needed the shortcut to work properly for some reason, otherwise I would have pointed that out... sorry! ?

 

47 minutes ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Im thinking maybe its time I got Virtual Desktop for Oculus?

 

To what end? It shows your desktop in VR which can be handy for some things, but it won't make starting IL-2 any different. If you use the shortcut I expect the sim will still open in 2D mode.

[KPnutskgwanchos]

6 hours ago, Goffik said:

 

Hmm... well that's the way I always start IL-2 so I know that works. I assumed you already knew that but needed the shortcut to work properly for some reason, otherwise I would have pointed that out... sorry! ?

 

 

To what end? It shows your desktop in VR which can be handy for some things, but it won't make starting IL-2 any different. If you use the shortcut I expect the sim will still open in 2D mode.

Hmmmm I just thought maybe it would be easier to be able to start everything with the headset on. However I'm also interested is getting airlink working as I want to try the Half life VR game. I've sort of got the impression that airlink has more options and stability using virtual Desktop? 

 

[dburne]

3 minutes ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Hmmmm I just thought maybe it would be easier to be able to start everything with the headset on. However I'm also interested is getting airlink working as I want to try the Half life VR game. I've sort of got the impression that airlink has more options and stability using virtual Desktop? 

 

 

Beware Half Life Alyx can be addictive. I have now had four playthroughs of that game, each with a different headset. Doubt I will ever uninstall that one. That is the only made for VR game I could say that about.

Flight sims come first of course, but it is great for that occasional break in between.

[KPnutskgwanchos]

8 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Beware Half Life Alyx can be addictive. I have now had four playthroughs of that game, each with a different headset. Doubt I will ever uninstall that one. That is the only made for VR game I could say that about.

Flight sims come first of course, but it is great for that occasional break in between.

Excellent I had heard it was pretty darn good.... Just have to hope I can get a stable airlink on the Q2... I have the right kind of router but so many devices on it in our house!... Im secretly moving all of them to the 2.4 GHz bandwidth ?

[Goffik]

14 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

However I'm also interested is getting airlink working as I want to try the Half life VR game. I've sort of got the impression that airlink has more options and stability using virtual Desktop? 

 

I couldn't say, since I have a Rift S which has no wireless functionality. It's fine for me because I only use VR for sims, and am always sitting in one of two places to do so, so cables are of no concern. I'm not sure how wireless would result in more stability than cabled though... 99% of the time it is the other way around, regardless of context.

[dburne]

4 minutes ago, Goffik said:

 

I couldn't say, since I have a Rift S which has no wireless functionality. It's fine for me because I only use VR for sims, and am always sitting in one of two places to do so, so cables are of no concern. I'm not sure how wireless would result in more stability than cabled though... 99% of the time it is the other way around, regardless of context.

 

While they have done a nice job with Airlink and cabled Link, nothing beats having a headset's display cord shoved up the GPU's butt for best performance.

Edited March 1, 2022 by dburne

[KPnutskgwanchos]

2 hours ago, Goffik said:

 

I couldn't say, since I have a Rift S which has no wireless functionality. It's fine for me because I only use VR for sims, and am always sitting in one of two places to do so, so cables are of no concern. I'm not sure how wireless would result in more stability than cabled though... 99% of the time it is the other way around, regardless of context.

Sorry think you misread me a little ....  Not expecting more stability on airlink just hoping I can make it stable as I assumed that a wireless connection would be better when playing Alyx?   ... Are you saying its ok to play it without running around screaming? ?

[Goffik]

21 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Sorry think you misread me a little ....  Not expecting more stability on airlink just hoping I can make it stable as I assumed that a wireless connection would be better when playing Alyx?

 

Ah yes, definitely misread... sorry about that. Sure, if you can get wireless stable then it will absolutely be better for Alyx, and anything else that requires moving. Before my right controller broke (for which I can now never get a replacement, thanks Oculus support...) I did play some standing games. I had the Rift S's rather long cable going through a hoop in the wall, then another on the ceiling so that it draped down behind me instead of trailing on the floor. It worked really well and gave good freedom, but there were still plenty of occasions when a wild swing would get caught up and wrench the HMD off my head. ?

[56RAF_Roblex]

I play Half-Life: Alyx on wireless (via virtual desktop) but I play IL2 with a cable because it works better.   Alyx is fine on wireless, no issues at all, but IL2 must need just that bit  more bandwidth or CPU or something and it starts to lag and tear etc. if I use WiFi.   Luckily I don't need to move around in IL2 whereas using Alyx with a cable through the wall vents (which I did try) is not really very practical.