Hurricane FM/DM model, broken?

[Roland_HUNter]

If a plane lost the vertical stabilizer, the plane should get into a flat spin, right?
Second: The many-many hits of the 20mm HE almost caused no big damage on the plane, but killed the pilot.
 

 

[NIK14]

19 hours ago, Roland_HUNter said:

"The many-many hits of the 20mm HE almost caused no big damage on the plane, but killed the pilot."
 

 

LMAO!

Edited February 25, 2022 by NIK14

[=621=Samikatz]

To me it looked like the aircraft was barely able to stay in the air after the first pass, it was clearly completely combat incapable

[Roland_HUNter]

4 hours ago, =621=Samikatz said:

To me it looked like the aircraft was barely able to stay in the air after the first pass, it was clearly completely combat incapable

Try the same vertical stab damage on any other plane. It will be in a flat spin.
The topic is about that, not about combat ability.

5 hours ago, NIK14 said:

 

LMAO!

LMAO. What a trolly molly comment. Danke Schön, Spasiba.

 

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

6 hours ago, Roland_HUNter said:

Try the same vertical stab damage on any other plane. It will be in a flat spin.
The topic is about that, not about combat ability.

LMAO. What a trolly molly comment. Danke Schön, Spasiba.

 

The FW 190 doesn't even need a tail so there's that...

 

Also, most planes can fly without a vertical stab, horizontal is another story. There are pictures of planes that made it back with the vertical stabilizer chopped off.

[Roland_HUNter]

17 hours ago, drewm3i-VR said:

The FW 190 doesn't even need a tail so there's that...

 

Also, most planes can fly without a vertical stab, horizontal is another story. There are pictures of planes that made it back with the vertical stabilizer chopped off.

"There are pictures of planes that made it back with the vertical stabilizer chopped off."

Show me 1 please, from WW2.

[41Sqn_Skipper]

 

Not ww2, so doesn't count 

[354thFG_Rails]

[Roland_HUNter]

35 minutes ago, QB.Rails said:

The Vertical Stab is not missing.

[354thFG_Rails]

Looks almost the same as the video you posted? except the rudder is attached.. seriously though the complaint, in my opinion, is quite ridiculous. There are other planes that behave the same way. And if anything all your video proves is that the pilot was probably trying very hard to prevent the hurricane from spinning till you made your second pass.

[Roland_HUNter]

13 hours ago, 41Sqn_Skipper said:

 

Not ww2, so doesn't count 

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/71630/why-was-the-tip-of-the-b-52s-vertical-tail-chopped-off-in-1959

22 minutes ago, QB.Rails said:

Looks almost the same as the video you posted? except the rudder is attached.. seriously though the complaint, in my opinion, is quite ridiculous. There are other planes that behave the same way. And if anything all your video proves is that the pilot was probably trying very hard to prevent the hurricane from spinning till you made your second pass.

100% not the same. Check it back again.

22 minutes ago, QB.Rails said:

Looks almost the same as the video you posted? except the rudder is attached.. seriously though the complaint, in my opinion, is quite ridiculous. There are other planes that behave the same way. And if anything all your video proves is that the pilot was probably trying very hard to prevent the hurricane from spinning till you made your second pass.

Try to control any other plane In IL-2 without vert stab. Instatly gonna be in flat spin.
And why is it ridiculous? The DM model for the new planes or for the german 20/30mms are broken! Even Jason admitted it, and he said they gonna fix it Later.....

[CUJO_1970]

1 hour ago, QB.Rails said:

 

lol, this is an aircraft that flipped over on it's back during a landing accident.

[354thFG_Rails]

33 minutes ago, Roland_HUNter said:

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/71630/why-was-the-tip-of-the-b-52s-vertical-tail-chopped-off-in-1959

100% not the same. Check it back again.

Try to control any other plane In IL-2 without vert stab. Instatly gonna be in flat spin.
And why is it ridiculous? The DM model for the new planes or for the german 20/30mms are broken! Even Jason admitted it, and he said they gonna fix it Later.....

other planes do this. not just the hurricane. Where did jason say the fm of the new planes are broken? or the fact that 20mm/30mm are broken?

13 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said:

 

lol, this is an aircraft that flipped over on it's back during a landing accident.

my bad

[Roland_HUNter]

47 minutes ago, QB.Rails said:

other planes do this. not just the hurricane. Where did jason say the fm of the new planes are broken? or the fact that 20mm/30mm are broken?

my bad

That video ? Oh my God, the problem is bigger than I thought.
 

 

[354thFG_Rails]

Lol he didn't say it was broken, just they would do a review of the damage model. At any rate it'll be great when/if they get around to looking at some of these major issues.

[Roland_HUNter]

1 hour ago, QB.Rails said:

Lol he didn't say it was broken, just they would do a review of the damage model. At any rate it'll be great when/if they get around to looking at some of these major issues.

LOL if you saying for a damage broken question: yes we will review it. Its means: they know something is wrong. LOL.

If its not broken, they would say: Its not broken it's not necessary to review it

[-250H-Ursus_]

Going to do a preventive, Russian Bias statements nullifier comment.

Fw-190A5 impacted by a 37MM HE, and Fw-190D9 Flying without tail, WITHOUT PILOT.

 

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Edited February 28, 2022 by -332FG-Ursus_

[[CPT]Crunch]

The reason a B-52 can survive it was the engines are so spread out you can control the yaw somewhat working with asymmetrical thrust, but I bet he was flying using autopilot and trim for the other two axis of flight, it's usually standard emergency procedures for that size and type of craft.  One pilot works the thrust and concentrates on the yaw, the other runs the autopilot and trim. 

[Roland_HUNter]

On 2/28/2022 at 4:04 AM, -332FG-Ursus_ said:

Going to do a preventive, Russian Bias statements nullifier comment.

Fw-190A5 impacted by a 37MM HE, and Fw-190D9 Flying without tail, WITHOUT PILOT.

 

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WOOOOW Such a  useful comment, who talked about rusian bias? o.O
I know your comment is preventive, but the topic is not about that. And above your comment I said, D-9 flying without vert stab is noooot okey!