VKB NXT Omni Throttle? / also THQ Mixture/Pitch axes not working...? / also SEM flaps/gear question

[FlyinLoafOfToast]

Hello all,

Just wondering whether anyone else has an NXT Omni Throttle.  I have started testing mine in this game, and of course the self-limiter means that, when you remove your hand, the throttle resets to 50%.  Has anyone tried, say, removing the spring, or some other adjustment to circumvent this?

 

In the meantime, my optimal configuration may be the NXT Gladiator with an X-52 throttle.  Probably not bad at all if I can rig those two together.

 

On the side, I am also running the NXT THQ (throttle quadrant) and SEM (side extension module).  A few quirks: although the axes for pitch and mixture are detected while key mapping, they do not seem to respond at all in the game.  Yes, I am toggling into manual pitch mode first (or just trying, say, a LaGG-3).  It shouldn't be a hardware issue, because the *throttle* axis works flawlessly, and I tried mapping *it* to RPM.  Hrhm.

 

Lastly (for now), on the SEM, perhaps it is the case that the dedicated flaps/gear levers (which are both three-position) do not work with this game?  IL-2 seems to read, for example, the flaps in either direction from the middle setting as the same button.  Is there any advice for these quirks?  I have meanwhile simply remapped these features to the K-switches (I think they are called) in the center of the module.

 

Regards, and thank you all for your time,

FLoT

[Yogiflight]

2 hours ago, FlyinLoafOfToast said:

Lastly (for now), on the SEM, perhaps it is the case that the dedicated flaps/gear levers (which are both three-position) do not work with this game?  IL-2 seems to read, for example, the flaps in either direction from the middle setting as the same button.  Is there any advice for these quirks?

Yes, I noticed these quirks, too. I use them by now without the detents blocks, set to analoge axis, but in game used as buttons. It works, but it seems they like to reverse the set axis. I use the flaps lever for opening/closing the canopy, with pulling it to me for opening the canopy. The next day, I had to push the lever forward to open the canopy. After my last mission yesterday I set it new, so I have to pull the lever again. I will see when I fly the next time if it is reversed again.

What you can try to do, if you only need two positions for your levers, exchange the blocks with the three detents with the blocks with only two of them and change the setting to two position setting. But this of course won't work for gear and flaps, so the K-Switches might be the best solution for those commands.

[Sokol1]

11 hours ago, FlyinLoafOfToast said:

Hello all,

Just wondering whether anyone else has an NXT Omni Throttle.  I have started testing mine in this game, and of course the self-limiter means that, when you remove your hand, the throttle resets to 50%.  Has anyone tried, say, removing the spring, or some other adjustment to circumvent this?

 

Just remove the spring will don't solve the question, because then you can't remove the hand of the grip, or they will fall for maximum of minimum position (due Earth gravity) and screw your flight.  

 

You need the new VKB NXT EVO OmniThrottle (GNE-OT) base, that VKB say that will sell under request, the gimbal of this new base have clutch, what allow the grip stay in the position.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Sokol1

[FlyinLoafOfToast]

Hi Yogiflight and Sokol1,

 

Thanks for your answers!  Yogiflight, it's good to know I am not going insane (or at least, not the only one noticing these issues).  Good advice on using the flaps lever for something like the canopy; I'll think about things like that.  Sokol1, that EVO looks pretty darned slick!  I may keep my Omni-throttle for Elite: Dangerous and such, but switch to that base for IL-2.  It'd be superb if it works like that!

 

Regards,

FLoT

[FlyinLoafOfToast]

On 2/24/2022 at 3:42 AM, Yogiflight said:

Yes, I noticed these quirks, too. I use them by now without the detents blocks, set to analoge axis, but in game used as buttons. It works, but it seems they like to reverse the set axis. I use the flaps lever for opening/closing the canopy, with pulling it to me for opening the canopy. The next day, I had to push the lever forward to open the canopy. After my last mission yesterday I set it new, so I have to pull the lever again. I will see when I fly the next time if it is reversed again.

What you can try to do, if you only need two positions for your levers, exchange the blocks with the three detents with the blocks with only two of them and change the setting to two position setting. But this of course won't work for gear and flaps, so the K-Switches might be the best solution for those commands.

 

Hi again, Yogiflight!  I have managed to solve these issues, and make the SEM work in IL-2.  Flaps and gear levers function as desired, and I can even use the mode switch now.  It all depends on using VJoy and Joystick Gremlin to, respectively, create and utilize a virtual joystick.  However, it definitely works.  If you're interested in doing the same (and haven't figured it out already), let me know.  It's kind of nice to have the flaps and gear on their dedicated levers, and to be able to use the buttons on the SEM in four different ways depending where the Mode selector is!

 

Best,

FLoT

[Yogiflight]

7 hours ago, FlyinLoafOfToast said:

I have managed to solve these issues, and make the SEM work in IL-2. 

Good that you got your issues sorted out. It is frustrating to have controllers not working the way, you want them to.

 

7 hours ago, FlyinLoafOfToast said:

  It's kind of nice to have the flaps and gear on their dedicated levers,

I didt want to use them that way, as the aircrafts I am usually flying have buttons for gear and flaps. I am quite satisfied with the way I am using my flaps and gear levers now and with the Boeing throttle of Thrustmaster, I am using now, I don't need the mode selector. But thanks for your offer. Maybe in future with, hopefully, the complex fuel management comming, I will come back to it.

[FlyinLoafOfToast]

8 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

Good that you got your issues sorted out. It is frustrating to have controllers not working the way, you want them to.

 

I didt want to use them that way, as the aircrafts I am usually flying have buttons for gear and flaps. I am quite satisfied with the way I am using my flaps and gear levers now and with the Boeing throttle of Thrustmaster, I am using now, I don't need the mode selector. But thanks for your offer. Maybe in future with, hopefully, the complex fuel management comming, I will come back to it.

Sounds great, Yogi!  I am glad you are happy with your current setup.  Sure, if anything changes in the future, I'm out here for what help I may be able to offer.  In the meantime, happy flying!!

 

Mit bestem Gruß,

FLoT

[Mike2945]

Hi FlyinLoafOfToast,

As an equally frustrated new owner of a VKB SEM, could you possibly share how you got the Flaps and Gear levers on the SEM to operate 'properly'.  I have no experience of using VJoy or Joystick Gremlin, so I'd be really grateful for a 'beginner's' explanation!

Best wishes

Mike 

[Sokol1]

22 hours ago, Mike2945 said:

... VKB SEM, could you possibly share how you got the Flaps and Gear levers on the SEM to operate 'properly'. 

 

How these SEM levers are set by default, as analog axes?

If yes you can't use then for any flap or landing gear commands in IL-2:GB, due the way that game is coded, accepting only buttons or key press.

 

But you can set, though VKB DevCfg software (firmware configuration) this axes for send buttons, like, e.g. a ON-OFF-ON or ON-ON-ON switch, what will cover the different flaps operation of different planes of the game.

 

Since the VKB DevCfg software is a bit "enigmatic" best to do is post what you want in VKB Forum/Technical support.

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by Sokol1

[John_Snow_12345]

On 8/13/2022 at 4:25 AM, Sokol1 said:

 

How these SEM levers are set by default, as analog axes?

If yes you can't use then for any flap or landing gear commands in IL-2:GB, due the way that game is coded, accepting only buttons or key press.

 

But you can set, though VKB DevCfg software (firmware configuration) this axes for send buttons, like, e.g. a ON-OFF-ON or ON-ON-ON switch, what will cover the different flaps operation of different planes of the game.

 

Since the VKB DevCfg software is a bit "enigmatic" best to do is post what you want in VKB Forum/Technical support.

 

 

 

To make the Flap and Gears level working properly, I set them as Pulse (button type Generator). And change the detent for flap to 2 position, for the gears level, middle position is set to NULL

[Mike2945]

Hi John,

I have a VKB NXT, SEM and THQ with WW II grip combination and wonder how you have set up the trimmers in their kit? I’ve yet to find a satisfactory solution (otherwise I think VKB products are superb and great value for money, though their software configuration takes years off my life every time I use it!). 

Mike