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Is the ditching pilot damage a little bit on the harsh side?


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6 hours ago, SCG_Wulfe said:

That said, I know the exact grid location of the spot this happened. I may just give it a shot offline to recreate and get a recording of what happened to settle this. 

 

I didn't mean to sound like I was scolding you on proper landing technique. It's just that if you were going about 35 KPH slower, the bump wouldn't have launched you so high, and the pilot might've lived. Still doesn't mean there isn't something off about the physics calculations.

 

I can only think of one time in recent (last 6ish months) memory when I landed and inexplicably had a fuel tank fire and pilot death (with gear down, and no structure breaks). This was offline. I can't recall the circumstances though. All I know is that during my current run of experiments, I have a very hard time causing a death intentionally or accidentally.

 

With that in mind, I decided to try another angle for my testing. I lingered over some AA batteries to take some damage before attempting to belly in, to properly simulate some of the incidents various people have described. I don't know what caliber the flak is when you check the box in quick missions, but judging by the DVD hit decal on my P-51, it's 30mm or greater.

 

I took a wing hit to a 109:

 

Spoiler

 

 

And the P-51 took a tail hit:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Landing the 109 was much easier than landing the 51 with a missing elevator.

 

With the 109 I think the pilot might've taken very light shrapnel damage (brief blood spot on screen), but I suffered no further injuries in either landing.

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I know I've gone overboard with the recordings, but I like to be thorough when testing anything out.

 

This will probably be my last series. Not much left to do.

 

3 deadstick landings. 1 with gear down, 2 belly. To burn out my engine, I just left it on emergency power, flew in circles, and accelerated time to 8x to make it go faster.

 

109G-6, gear down, in snow:

 

Spoiler

 

 

109G-6, gear up, in autumn map:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Spitfire V, gear up, autumn map:

 

Spoiler

 

 

In the Spit, I kept my flaps up because I didn't want to risk the nose-dive the plane does when you drop flaps. The lack of incremental flap lowering could be dangerous in that situation. I also dropped my speed to about 90 MPH in the Spit, because I'm sure it wouldn't stall. I touched down closer to 100 MPH in the 109.

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--[---MAILMAN----
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"Online or offline?"

 

It was online on Combat Box Red Flight server.  Funny part was IL-2 said the pilot was killed, but the server bot said I survived.

 

It was like those carrier landings when a corsair landing gear hits the barrier wire and the tail goes up and the nose goes down bending the prop.

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No idea how you guys ditch, but i never nearly never die. 

Try not to ditch in a 90 degrees angle, to avoid headache ...

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42 minutes ago, --[---MAILMAN---- said:

"Online or offline?"

 

It was online on Combat Box Red Flight server.  Funny part was IL-2 said the pilot was killed, but the server bot said I survived.

 

That last part is especially interesting.

 

This is making me wonder if online disparities with offline performance could also explain how people have such widely varying opinions on whatever gun's efficacy.

 

I realize the pilot physiology and aircraft collision bug is something that was, evidently, recently introduced; but nevertheless, it opens the possibility for similar disparities to exist in other aspects of the sim when online behaviors are compared to offline.

 

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There definitely is something wrong with the calculation of impact forces on the pilot. Hopefully the devs will look into it soon.

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