Developer Diary 306 - Discussion

[JimTM]

Wow!  The uncompressed images are great.  

[Guster]

1 hour ago, Jason_Williams said:

Everyone,

I screwed up. Due to how I saved the originals or due to the forum there is some banding in the images DUE TO COMPRESSION not from the game. I will try to fix these images, but in game this does not happen.

I will make the original uncompressed images available.

Uncompressed Originals Here

 

Jason

 

You know, the game looks gorgeous as it is already, the scr*wed up images look even better, and the uncompressed images look utterly divine.

 

Good work and have a nice weekend!

[JG27*PapaFly]

Awesome! As a RL pilot I pay much attention to the sky and clouds. These are important factors for many decisions taken before and during each flight. The banding and simple clouds were a major immersion killer for me. Great to see both addressed.

[Danziger]

These screens look amazing. 

 

While we are looking at the sky, would it be possible to correct the size of the sun and moon? There is a mod, but it would be great to have it stock.

[354thFG_Panda_]

Awesome DD!!!

[Bonnot]

Congratulations !!!

I'd appreciate some short infos on the conditions   ( and hardware ) ,  it looks high tech added to real artistic skills ...

[senseispcc]

Nice, pictures, realism and perfection nearly at his maximum. Thanks, I am happy of any progress, but this one is making me very optimistic for the future of IL2. 

[Ala13_UnopaUno_VR]

You are making il2 magnificent, normandy is going to be incredible.

 

A recommendation, the stars, Moon and Sun and Stars, seen from Virtual Reality, are excessively disproportionate in scale, if they could be equal in 20/30% smaller, they would seem more Realistic.

[IckyATLAS]

The uncompressed images are excellent. The moonless night is extremely realistic. The  contrast between the blue sky and the countryside is perfect.  The blue looks much better and the image is crisp like in a very clear day without haze. This technology is really the way to go. And if you fix haze and fog with the same quality as the clouds and this new skydome then you will have nailed it.

 

A small comment here, with the new clouds the rain and rain showers between blue holes in the cloud cover are light years better than before, Thumbs up.

[Diggun]

22 minutes ago, 1stCL/rudidlo said:

visible through solid obstacles

I've always interpreted that effect as the glare of a sliver of sun still visible glaring around the canopy strut. Seems realistic to me. 

[Rjel]

9 minutes ago, Diggun said:

I've always interpreted that effect as the glare of a sliver of sun still visible glaring around the canopy strut. Seems realistic to me. 

My thought too. 

[BladeMeister]

Awesome looking! Nice work Gents. I am glad you posted the uncompressed pics because I was looking at them in the DD and saying 'WTF'?

Those pictures really look stunning and I can't wait for you to incorporate the new sky tech so that I can retire the banding fix mod which I currently use. Will the new sky make it into the next update or will it be relegated to a later update? Speaking of updates, any tentative(STC I know) release date for it?

 

Just want to say I am really enjoying the whole GBS now and each update seems to move the series forward by leaps and bounds. Keep up the Good Work Team 1C.

 

S!Blade<><

[J2_Bidu]

The uncompressed ones look even better, indeed.

 

I would get rid of the lens effect. It's kind of unnatural. Otherwise things look really great.

 

Good job guys!

Edited February 4, 2022 by J2_Bidu

[BladeMeister]

13 minutes ago, Diggun said:

I've always interpreted that effect as the glare of a sliver of sun still visible glaring around the canopy strut. Seems realistic to me. 

 

3 minutes ago, Rjel said:

My thought too. 

It is because we have 2 eyes and our view of the world is combined in our mind from 2 points of view. Maybe call it stereo vision, but while one eye does not see the sun through the solid object, the other still does. That's my take on it anyway. I like it.

 

S!Blade<><

[Avimimus]

I don't know about this... lack of banding? I don't know if I can handle a flight sim without it... it is part of how things should be! The only thing I have ever known! I suppose I can always go back to SWOTL if I don't like the improvements:

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[Spaz-505]

Thanks for sharing Jason, the results look awesome!!!  Of the 4 flightsims I fly regularly, MSFS DCS X-Plane 11 and IL-2, the work the team has done with the clouds & weather is the best I've seen amongst these, and by quite a margin!  The addition of the sky will further separate them from the others!

 

Since the new clouds were released, all of my missions have significantly been enhanced and the realism skyrocketing!  Here is a screenshot from one of my missions that really shows off their work... the visuals are stunning!!!

 

... I'll end with a couple wishes... B-25 & the Pacific

[[DBS]TH0R]

Looking really good! I do hope this also helps with spotting against a clear blue sky.

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

We're in the middle of an ice storm here.  Please, there is no need to add it to the sim.

[FlyingNutcase]

What great news! The (uncompressed) images are stellar. Really great that the environment is being looked after, so to speak.  

[TX-Zigrat]

Looks great

 

[pilotpierre]

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[Uufflakke]

26 minutes ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

We're in the middle of an ice storm here.  Please, there is no need to add it to the sim.

 

That is what I would like to see in the sim. Blizzards!

 

 

I know, I've already requested it some time ago...

[Jason_Williams]

Test. Maybe .pngs won't have the compression?

 

 

Jason

[SCG_Neun]

Good Stuff!?

[LuftManu]

With the uncompressed ones you can see a difference as clear as night and day (pun intended).

Looking forward this! with the new clouds, we needed such change too for the sky. ?

Edited February 4, 2022 by LF_Gallahad

[Nocke]

Very nice!

I almost do not dare to ask - but will the nightly banding on water surfaces also be gone?

[Props]

Very nice, I am keen to fly in these skies!

[Lusekofte]

28 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

Test. Maybe .pngs won't have the compression?

 

 

Jason

That was excellent

[Jason_Williams]

I changed all the images in the OP to .png format so compression should be much less now.

 

Jason

[JimTM]

31 minutes ago, Uufflakke said:

 

That is what I would like to see in the sim. Blizzards!

 

 

I know, I've already requested it some time ago...

 

We already have Hurricanes, Typhoons, and Tempests. Isn't that enough?  

[Pollux]

Good News

[Missionbug]

Excellent.

 

That U-boat shot, awesome, the night is coming.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[Uufflakke]

15 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

I changed all the images in the OP to .png format so compression should be much less now.

 

Jason

 

Much better.

No banding anymore. 

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Please fix the damage model lol

Nobody cares about how good the graphics look if its not fun.

[Alan_Grey]

Beautiful.. Beautiful.. BEAUTIFUL !!! Thanks

[LukeFF]

Great work! It's cool to hear about the plans for haze and dust - I was just reading an account from a Soviet P-40 pilot in Black Cross / Red Star about how cold air could affect visibility:

 

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The weather was absolutely ideal for those free hunters. The cold temperature, minus 30 Degrees, created a haze that reduced horizontal visibility, and the sun shone mercilessly.

 

[Nocke]

1 hour ago, 216th_Nocke said:

Very nice!

I almost do not dare to ask - but will the nightly banding on water surfaces also be gone?

After a closer look at the images - yes! There also seems to be no banding anymore on the sea either!

Maybe it was actually the banding in the sky getting reflected by the water?

Whatever ... really looking forward to night missions again. Thank you!

[Gambit21]

I love to see how this is all coming along - great job team.

Looking gorgeous!!!

[2/JG26_rudidlo]

Someone deleted my post without telling me why.
I would like to have fixed sun visualisation, I'm happy with sky as it is now.

Edited February 4, 2022 by 1stCL/rudidlo

[=BES=Senor_Jefe]

It looks like everyone here is stroking the devs......ego?  So I'll play devils advocate.

 

Please note:  this isn't a huge gripe, but slippery slopes and all...

 

I look at anything with a performance impact as a big red flag.  Speaking from the VR community, it's often completely irresponsible to buy a new GPU for 400% MSRP.  So I like to determine the cost/benefit of the enhancements.

 

So now for the controversial statement:  IL2 is not a weather/sky simulator. It's a combat flight sim.  There are still TONS of improvements to make to the flight/combat aspect of the game that I question this enhancement.  It does not improve combat or flight; only making things prettier.  Sure, eye candy is important, but if your primary concern is eye candy, go fly MSFS and enjoy your 15 FPS.

 

I question the priorities and the resources spent here for something that won't enhance the core function of the game.

 

Disclaimer:  I am not at all unhappy with the game, and will continue to be a staunch supporter of the experience.  I only hope that this criticism is viewed with an open mind rather than the cultist-like attacks we sometimes see with anything perceived as negative today.