Overly sensitive pitch with T1600M

[madcowz]

Hi,

 

I've got a T1600M and am finding it really difficult to get the pitch right so that I don't spend the entire flight bouncing up and down.

 

I've tried all manner of sensitivity levels and dead zones and curves and while it is fine when the stick is neutral. When I'm trying to shoot something the stick is rarely neutral and the slightest movement sends the plane bouncing up and down, Even pulling the trigger sends it all over the place. I'm currently flying the 109 with the stabliser set to a wheel on the HOTAS but the adjustment has to be so precise and is so slow to take effect that I can't trim the plane in time before I've had to change attitude and/or power.

Am I missing something or do I just need to really practice this more? Yaw and rudder seem ok, it's just the pitch. Ideally I'd like to reduce the sensitivity over the full range of the joysticks vertical plane but the slider in IL2 doesn't seem to affect it at all and even setting the sensitvity to 0% makes no difference.

Thanks.

[Confused_2018]

I saw this thread, no idea if this is the issue.  Look for Stabilizer trim?

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/22963-bf-109-elevator-trim/

 

[madcowz]

On 2/4/2022 at 4:24 PM, Confused_2018 said:

I saw this thread, no idea if this is the issue.  Look for Stabilizer trim?

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/22963-bf-109-elevator-trim/

 

Hi confused.

Thanks but I've already got the stabaliser bound to a wheel on my HOTAS. The issue is it is slow to change and I can't seem to adjust it fast enough for my frantic flying so end up yo-yoing everywhere and my joystick is overly sensitive as its not within the deadzone.

 

[messsucher]

Practice will help in that.

[Guest deleted@134347]

IL2 in general has an extremely sensitive pitch axis for ALL planes. You can pitch jerk a fully loaded HE111 at 14 tonnes like it weighs nothing.  I think it's a general FM issue rather than the controller settings. Having a joystick extension helps with smoothing it out, after that it's all in the hand movement memory.

[grcurmudgeon]

A real trim wheel (3 turns is working for me, there is another thread from yesterday with a 10-turn design) works wonders for aiming. You need multiple turns for the right sensitivity to dial trim in, a joystick wheel that usually isn't even 1 full turn is not good enough. When out of trim, a slight adjustment to pitch that matches the trim setting is very touchy - if you are nose heavy, you likely have back-pressure on the stick to keep it level, and as soon as you move it ever so slightly forward the nose drops like it wants to. You'll bounce all over the place like you describe. Trim it up and you'll have a much easier time keeping the crosshairs on the opponent with small adjustments.

 

I added a trim wheel to my setup last Fall and it did wonders for my aiming. Right now I just have a single wheel mapped to elevator trim / stabilizers, some day I'll get all 3 for the planes that support it.

[paul_leonard]

You can fiddle with the sensitivity of the joystick by clicking on the little box (with the attentuated S) to the far right of the pitch control key mapping.

 

 

When you do the next screen that comes up allows you to make changes, create deadzones and stuff.  To make it less sensitive you probably want to play around to create a flatter line along the horizontal axis and then bends farther out to the extremes.

 

 

Maybe something that looks like this below.  But this may have unintended side effects while in combat.  Play around with it.  I think you could to similar things with the slider you use for trim.  Your mileage may vary.