Request: Kneeboards

[AKA_Relent]

Something that would be very welcome to The Great Battles aircraft would be some sort of multi-page kneeboard we could customize, that would show in the cockpit, similar to the picture we can currently use to put technical data on.

 

The problem with the picture is it’s just one image, its fairly small, and is sometimes in a place where you can’t see it easily.

 

For me, I’d want to put some of the critical key mappings, as a reminder, without having to go into the settings/key mappings, and scroll through all of the tabs.   If you play the game frequently and fly the same set of planes, you can usually remember most/all of the mappings.  But anytime I try to fly aircraft I haven’t flown for a while, I can’t always remember some of the not so obvious key mappings (I.e. many mappings are the same for all aircraft, but many are specific to certain aircraft).

 

It would just be nice to pull up a kneeboard image(s) in the cockpit to quickly review the mappings, for example.

 

Jason, for your consideration, thanks.

Edited January 31, 2022 by AKA_Relent

[Noisemaker]

The question is, where would you put a kneeboard, when you can't see your knees?

[ShamrockOneFive]

2 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

The question is, where would you put a kneeboard, when you can't see your knees?

 

?

 

But seriously, other sims have it pop up on the side of the screen similar to the mini map display. Ideal for checklists and other pilots notes.

[Noisemaker]

5 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

?

 

But seriously, other sims have it pop up on the side of the screen similar to the mini map display. Ideal for checklists and other pilots notes.

Joking aside, I'd like to have it, as going to the objective screen to see the aircraft specs is a bit annoying.

[Raptorattacker]

18 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

Joking aside, I'd like to have it, as going to the objective screen to see the aircraft specs is a bit annoying.

Just to bring the jokes back IN for a moment, why don't you have a real kneepad for each plane? Problem solved!!

[AKA_Relent]

As far as where to display the kneeboard image, I leave that up to the developers.  Maybe on the left or right side of the screen, and as mentioned, a multi-page setup would be great.

[56RAF_Roblex]

Yes the kneepad app in IL2 (or was it CLoD?) was really useful and even more so when there was a big event planned and you could load in the mission routes and recce photos.

[Confused_2018]

I've seen on yt in other games that they look to be useful indeed.

[Charlo-VRde]

+1 on this request being added into the game, either by the devs or a 3rd party who can figure out a way to do it that is permitted in the MP servers.

 

At https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/62400-mod-vrem-vr-enhancer/ there is a great kneepad-like feature included, though it only works if you also have the 3dmigoto library, which is not allowed on the MP servers I fly, for valid reasons.

 

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

Well, we have the big map overlay with specifications menu we can scroll through… something compact would be ideal..

 

I know the mini map is available too but is that only for “normal” difficulty modes?  I’ve never really used it, first time I saw it was when I installed the game and realized everything was set normal.. 

 

I think having the mini map available for all difficulty setting and a page function with key binding perhaps to scroll through it… 

 

the one in dcs is perfect, and being able to pre-edit the pages for il2 with images of waypoints or even recon targets info would be cool too.. 

[Taurus]

Necro Bump.

After all this time and still no integrated Kneeboard? We fortunately now have the ability to customise controller setups for each individual aircraft, but no means of any in-game helper system like the kneeboard, which are so effective in other simulations. It is a shame when time is at a premium. (I know there a are hacks out there for a kneeboard, but they are just that, hacks.)

[Knarley-Bob]

But, but, we ain't got no legs.....................

[czech693]

My kneeboards. 6"x8" magnetic dry erase boards from Amazon.  I've got a larger 8 1/2"x11" for keyboard commands.

[Knarley-Bob]

Now THAT is a cockpit...............wow

[czech693]

About 35 years of progression from a simple table top joystick with twist grip and slider.

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

It’s sweet having the physical kneeboard/notepad while flying.  In IL-2 1946 I had a pad and calculator to make my bombing alt conversions (as some ships are in meters/feet) and target info such as target altitude…

 

but that was in 2D.   Now flying in VR…  the whole map up in your face…..   I change the opacity lower so it’s somewhat see through.  Just cut it In half, and make it a bit smaller?

 

But… some day, some how, some way…. We will have the technology… I know it

[TG-55Panthercules]

Already exists - I use it in VR for Flying Circus, and it's great.

 

Search for OpenKneeboard

 

[Taurus]

6 hours ago, TG-55Panthercules said:

Search for OpenKneeboard

 

 

And on their website;

 

While OpenKneeboard is not a cheat, it does hook into the games rendering and input pipelines, which over-eager anti-cheat systems may consider ban-worthy. While this is similar to how other overlays work (e.g. Steam and Discord), it is possible that using OpenKneeboard may lead to an anti-cheat ban.

Note that OpenKneeboard has NO WARRANTY; see the LICENSE file and full text of the GPLv2 for details.

 

That is why I would hope that the Kneeboard is from the game developer themselves. Not hacks. Does 1C approve of OpenKneeboard?

 

 

[TG-55Panthercules]

That's a good question - I only play SP so I wasn't thinking about that.  Not sure if it has been addressed yet or not - might want to check this thread in case something was said about it in there:  https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/81683-openkneeboard-a-not-only-for-vr-kneeboard-app/#comment-1235957

 

 

If not, it would be good if someone from the dev team could comment.

[RossMarBow]

On 2/24/2023 at 12:01 PM, Taurus said:

Necro Bump.

After all this time and still no integrated Kneeboard? We fortunately now have the ability to customise controller setups for each individual aircraft, but no means of any in-game helper system like the kneeboard, which are so effective in other simulations. It is a shame when time is at a premium. (I know there a are hacks out there for a kneeboard, but they are just that, hacks.)

Sounds like you are playing the game in hard mode.

 

This replaces the cockpit photo with all the information you could ever need. 

 

Theirs also websites like dead reckon(ing?) that will help you with pre-flight issues such as fuel loadout.
Theirs a couple of different map sites.
And you can then adjust course using real world wind course adjustment sites etc.  

Apart from this I have two lined a4 pages that I keep extra notes on maybe 3 lines per plane.

 

But literally all the dude who shared the picture is doing is printing out the cockpit photo from below with some extra notes.

 

 

I guess if you are in VR it might be hard to edit/fit everything onto the cockpit photo.
Maybe devs could let us have "pages" on the cockpit photo so we can flip to extra notes.
And/or give us personal space for notes we can edit per plane on another tab next to plane specifications in-game 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2023 by RossMarBow