Flying Circus Future

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[Jackfraser24]

5 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

AEG G.IV / G.IVN would probably be the most appealing to most players. It was relatively easy to fly, could go 165 km/h (making it one of the fastest bombers and able to reach Albatros D.II/Pfalz D.III speeds), there is a surviving example preserved, and the 'N' variant consists of an increased wingspan allowing a much heavier bomb-load (rivalling the Gotha and even the Friederichschafen).

 

If you like that sort of aircraft I'd suggest looking up the Zeppelin-Staaken R.VI! and the Caproni Ca.4.

 

The Oeffag G might also be of interest (only ten were produced though). I know some original drawings exist.

 

 

The Ilya Muromets maybe?

[Avimimus]

On 6/16/2022 at 10:29 PM, Jackfraser24 said:

The Ilya Muromets maybe?

 

We'll likely get a variant of it someday (it was in Rise of Flight) - albeit with only one gunner operating two guns (so not the multi-gun or cannon equipped variants).

 

 

Something which blew my mind - video footage exists of my most inexcusable temptation:

 

 

 

 

I had to share! Interestingly the footage shows the range of motion of a ventral gun!

Edited June 19, 2022 by Avimimus

[Docholiday]

I vote for the  Brandenburg and Felixtow water-planes

 

Cheers

Doc

 

[Jackfraser24]

I'd like to see some more French bombers like the

• Caudron G.4
• Farman F.50
• or the Letord Let.5

[Zooropa_Fly]

10 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I'd like to see some more French bombers like the

• Caudron G.4
• Farman F.50
• or the Letord Let.5

 

The Caudron looks like a nice target for an EIII.

And that Farman has a whiff of a Gotha about it, is there a story there.. ?

 

S!

[Avimimus]

I'd personally prefer a Voisin VIII as the night bomber for the French - since it was in service earlier than the Farman F.50 (as well as continuing until 1918).

 

A Letord Let.5 or Caudron R.4 or Salmson-Moineau S.M.1 would be a good representative of a three seat French battleplane (more than 750 built by France in this category during the war)! Of course, I know which is my favourite.

 

Caudron G.4 definitely has some appeal, even if it is withdrawn fairly early in 1917. It could also has an armoured ground attack variant, and could be flown as a single-seat aircraft with one or two fixed forward firing guns. The Morane-Saulnier L is another aircraft that would be extremely useful as 'Fokker fodder' and was flown by both sides during the war in single-seat and two-seat versions.

[BMA_Hellbender]

(Belgian) Farman F.40.

 

Highly unlikely we'll ever get to see them, but what a beautiful machine.

 

 

[Hoots]

1 hour ago, Hellbender said:

(Belgian) Farman F.40.

 

Highly unlikely we'll ever get to see them, but what a beautiful machine.

 

 

We need to have a little word about your definition of “beautiful” bender…

[Jackfraser24]

I want to know a few things about if there is future development of Flying Circus Volume I.

• Will there be a Pilot Career for Volume I too? There's going to be one for Volume II, I know for sure.
• Will there also be an AQMB like there is for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kuban and Benelux (Bodenplatte)?
• The map for Volume I is going to expand. When will that be?

That is all. Thanks.

[LVA_Picard]

On 2/5/2022 at 4:47 PM, Superflyer said:

Ich wäre zufrieden, wenn FC 2 herauskommt und vernünftige Kampagnien dabei sind. Vielleicht noch ein paar Kauf- Flugzeuge wie: Nieuport 17, evtl. DH.2 , Albatross D.III

 

I'd be happy if FC 2 comes out and comes with decent campaigns. Maybe a few purchase aircraft like: Nieuport 17, possibly DH.2, Albatross D.III

 

Exactly my idear fore some reason my favorite plane was always the Nieuport 11/17 and Albatros D3  to bad it is not available in Flying circus 

[Jackfraser24]

1 hour ago, LVA_Picard said:

 

Exactly my idear fore some reason my favorite plane was always the Nieuport 11/17 and Albatros D3  to bad it is not available in Flying circus 

Probably will be in Flying Circus Vol.III

[LVA_Picard]

That would be amazing 

[jollyjack]

On 8/13/2022 at 11:31 PM, LVA_Picard said:

That would be amazing 

 

Truly amazing is that i bought FG2, already Dec. 21, 2020, 8:01, thus almost 2 years ago ....

[Superflyer]

ja, ich warte auch schon ewig, dass nun mal die Updates Kraftstoffmanagement , FC.2 usw. herauskommt.Bei allem Verständniss für die Entwickler, den Aufwand usw.

Ich kaufe auch keine zusätzlichen Flugzeuge mehr, solange die nicht fertig entwickelt sind und in Kampagnien spielbar.

 

Yes, I've been waiting forever for the fuel management updates, FC.2, etc. to come out. With all due respect for the developers, the effort, etc. Also, I won't buy any more planes until they're fully developed and playable in campaigns.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

We are all waiting….??‍♂️
But I think the pandemic and especially the political situation right now have its impact…

If I remember right the roadmap the FC2 map should be already finished… But in a later post I read the making of career mode start after finish the Normandy career’s.

The Normandy career’s meanwhile finished so I guess FC2‘s career making is now in process.

But I only can guess because long time nothing announced about the FC2 process since long time…?

Slow planes need much patience ?

[Zooropa_Fly]

IMO the tank game has stretched the devs too thinly.

We keep hearing about limited resources, so maybe they've put too much on their plate.

 

 

[76SQN-Minimayhemtemp]

If the map is available it should be released.  They have released the planes so why not the map? At least that way the people that have already bought the product get more of the content they have paid for.

[Superflyer]

Vor 58 Minuten sagte Zooropa_Fly:

Meiner Meinung nach hat das Panzerspiel die Entwickler zu dünn gestreckt.

Wir hören immer wieder von begrenzten Ressourcen, also haben sie sich vielleicht zu viel vorgenommen.

 

 

Das habe ich schon vor Jahren mal reingeschrieben, dass ich der Meinung bin, man übernimmt sich da etwas. Da wurde hier noch im Forum geantwortet, dass BOX eine Flugsimulation bleibt, dass Panzer nur mal so" zur Probe " war, als es damit losging mit Panzern in BOX. Inzwischen hat man den Eindruck das da sehr viel mehr Aufmerksamkeit auf die Panzer- Simulation als auf FC-2 bzw. überhaupt auf die Flugsimulation gelegt wird. Schade, denn jetzt tritt genau das ein, " begrenzte Ressourcen".

Deshalb kaufe ich auch keine Pre-Order Flugzeuge, Simulationen usw mehr. Wenn es fertig ist, ok, aber ehrlich gesagt dauert mir die Entwicklung bis zum fertigen Produkt dann einfach zu lange, teilweise eben schon Jahre. Bei allem Verständniss für die aufwendigen Entwicklungen, die politische Lage , den Markt,.......

Wie lange verspricht man uns schon ein verbessertes Kraftstoff- Management...... FC-2,......... , dann evtl bestimmte " Module" wie Kraftstoff management, verbessertes Funkmenü, u.a. Sachen als Kaufoption anbieten,

 

I wrote that years ago that I think you're overdoing it. There was an answer here in the forum that BOX remains a flight simulation, that tanks were only "for rehearsal" when it started with tanks in BOX. In the meantime one has the impression that much more attention is paid to the tank simulation than to FC-2 or to flight simulation in general. It's a shame, because that's exactly what's happening now, "limited resources". That's why I don't buy pre-order planes, simulations, etc. anymore. When it's finished, ok, but to be honest, the development to the finished product just takes too long for me, sometimes even years. With all understanding for the complex developments, the political situation, the market,...... How long have we been promised improved fuel management...... FC-2,......... , then possibly certain "modules" such as fuel management, improved radio menu, etc. offer things as a purchase option,

[ST_Catchov]

17 hours ago, Superflyer said:

  18 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

Meiner Meinung nach hat das Panzerspiel die Entwickler zu dünn gestreckt.

Wir hören immer wieder von begrenzten Ressourcen, also haben sie sich vielleicht zu viel vorgenommen.

 

Aye, ah dinnae ken wot ya talkin' aboot Jimmae! Dinnae listen tae um.

 

But you Superflyer, have made some erudite points. In English.

[Avimimus]

On 7/6/2022 at 12:46 AM, =IRFC=Hellbender said:

(Belgian) Farman F.40.

 

Highly unlikely we'll ever get to see them, but what a beautiful machine.

 

I always liked the flying canoe... reminds me of an old story we have here in Canada actually.

[Jackfraser24]

On 9/13/2022 at 2:59 AM, Avimimus said:

 

I always liked the flying canoe... reminds me of an old story we have here in Canada actually.

Have you ever heard of Project Habakkuk? It was a very ambitious design for a 2,000 foot long, 300 feet wide and 150 foot deep aircraft carrier made of pykrete - 86% ice and 14% wood pulp, and very bullet proof! The project was created and headed by an eccentric British engineer called Geoffrey Pyke. Project Habakkuk was created to be able to carry heavy bombers on the Atlantic, and defend convoys too far out at sea for anti-submarine aircraft to fly, and because there was not enough steel and aluminum for ship building at the time. A 1/6th sized prototype was in the process of being constructed in Lake Patricia in Canada when it was cancelled in late 1943 because building warships out of conventional material in large numbers was now practical, and that neutral Portugal allowed Allied planes to fly in areas where it would have been used. The unfinished vessel was left to melt. It took three summers to melt completely.

Edited September 27, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[BMA_FlyingShark]

7 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

It took three summers to melt completely.

Uh,... 3 summers? My first thought that it would be very impractical as it would melt when you got to close to the equator but then reading that it took 3 summers made me understand why they at least tried this.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, FlyingShark said:

Uh,... 3 summers? My first thought that it would be very impractical as it would melt when you got to close to the equator but then reading that it took 3 summers made me understand why they at least tried this.

 

Have a nice day.

 

It’s true. The wood pulp was able to insulate the ice from the heat. And Lake Alberta is a glacial lake in Northernish Alberta, Canada.

[Jackfraser24]

I believe that there is going to be a Flying Circus Vol. IV, however there are only 6 Western Front planes of the original Rise of Flight plane list left. And I do believe that customer backlash for IL-2 selling Vol. IV for $80 will be quite intense, with only 6 planes in the volume. I am no business nor financial expert but I believe that they are going to have to add in 6 new planes that are not from the original Rise of Flight plane list, 2 for Vol.III and 4 for Vol.IV to justify the $79.99 price and to satisfy the customers. These are the aircraft I propose:

 

For Vol.III

• Friedrichshafen G.III
• Handley Paige O/100

For Vol.IV

• A.E.G. G.IV
• Albatros D.III
• Fokker E.III
• Roland C.IIa
• Roland D.VIb
• Airco DH.2
• Airco DH.9/9A
• Armstrong Whitworth F.K.8
• Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
• Caudron R.11

 

 

[Aapje]

@Jackfraser24

 

An alternative is simply to reduce the price.

 

The issue with FC is that they all share the same map, so the first purchase is much better value than subsequent purchases. Unless WW I planes are harder to make than WW II planes for some reason, 1cgs should also require fewer resources for making a new FC module.

 

Of course, the (presumably) lesser sales of FC would increase costs again.

 

That said, the buyers tend to care about the value proposition to them, and it is simply worse than for the WW II modules.

 

[Zooropa_Fly]

Considering the state we've allowed the world to get into, and the rampant inflation we're all experiencing - I think the current pricing is very reasonable.

Are the remaining planes not being released as collector planes anyway ?

[=IRFC=Gascan]

I am curious if it will be a Volume 4 or a series of collector planes. An older Stormbirds post about the roadmap from last March describes an additional "pack" after Volume 3, which kinda suggests a Volume 4. The same post also has the list of planned releases. Fokker E.III, Roland C.II, Albatross D.III, Airco DH-2, Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter, Sopwith Pup. I would love to see more planes, but this is all that has been announced for now.

[ST_Catchov]

23 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

Considering the state we've allowed the world to get into, and the rampant inflation we're all experiencing -

 

It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but to take my mind off the brewing civil unrest and general discontent of honest and law-abiding citizens being gouged mercilessly, I like to indulge in a spot of crocodile wrangling at dusk on the Mary River. Don't be fooled, they are not kittens and can be dangerous but with a bit of gaffer tape wrapped around their snouts they soon realise resistance is futile. But watch the tail. It can give you a nasty whack on the nuts. Once subdued and defeat admitted, I, the victor, let 'em go because they are part of our precious eco-system. I find it puts everything into perspective, and VR is not really that important. let alone the Se5a FM, amongst other assorted bugs.

 

 

The missus says just kill the thing and we'd have meat for six months but we'd need a bigger freezer and at today's prices it's not viable. She doesn't understand these things.

 

How can a WW1 flight simulator not include the first aerial bombing of a major city? I ask her this. She looks blankly at me. Zeppelins I say. Oh yeah she says, Robert Plant was so sexy. Is he in that game you play? No. no darl, I'm talking about the bombing of London. About time, she says.

 

 

 

[Aapje]

On 2/21/2024 at 11:14 AM, Zooropa_Fly said:

Considering the state we've allowed the world to get into, and the rampant inflation we're all experiencing - I think the current pricing is very reasonable.

The effects of inflation are a lot more complex than "things get more expensive, so people are willing to pay more for everything." They can actually be less willing to pay. They may even be forced to cut expenses, if their income doesn't keep up with the increased prices.

 

But what I was pointing out more is that the relative value of getting a 2nd/3rd/4rd FC module is less than for the WWII modules. People tend to notice value propositions and it regularly has an effect on their buying decisions.

[DD_Arthur]

2 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

 I like to indulge in a spot of crocodile wrangling at dusk on the Mary River. Don't be fooled, they are not kittens and can be dangerous but with a bit of gaffer tape wrapped around their snouts they soon realise resistance is futile. But watch the tail. It can give you a nasty whack on the nuts. Once subdued and defeat admitted, I, the victor, let 'em go because they are part of our precious eco-system. I find it puts everything into perspective, 

 

 

I should think this combined with a spot of vegan yoga is the perfect antidote to all those mental health issues associated with the Flying Circus flight model and the imminent outbreak of WW3.

S!

[Cascadeur]

I believe that there will be the FC vol.IV and it will be $80 pack containing these 8 great crates:

• Albatros D.II late
• Albatros D.III
• Fokker E.III
• Roland C.IIa

vs

• Airco D.H.2
• Sopwith Pup
• Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
• Sopwith Strutter B

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

1 hour ago, Cascadeur said:

I believe that there will be the FC vol.IV and it will be $80 pack containing these 8 great crates:

• Albatros D.II late
• Albatros D.III
• Fokker E.III
• Roland C.IIa

vs

• Airco D.H.2
• Sopwith Pup
• Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
• Sopwith Strutter B

Instant buy here.  

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

That would be a nice plane set. I enjoy the early stuff and it's timely - Vintage Aviator now has a very nice replica of an E.III.

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

2 hours ago, Cascadeur said:

I believe that there will be the FC vol.IV and it will be $80 pack containing these 8 great crates:

• Albatros D.II late
• Albatros D.III
• Fokker E.III
• Roland C.IIa

vs

• Airco D.H.2
• Sopwith Pup
• Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
• Sopwith Strutter B

[Enceladus828]

I hope it's this:

 

FC4 -- Channel Map, remaining planes and seaplanes

FC5 -- Tarnopol Map, Sikorsky S-16, S-22, Albatross D.III OAW and other Russian, German and Austro-Hungarian planes.

FC6 -- Italian Front: would include Venice, Marmolada Glacier (The Ice City), Monte Piana, Gorizia, and Pola (Pula).

[=IRFC=Gascan]

Pretty sure we're not getting the Albatros D.II "late" version, just the one we already have.

[JD007]

10 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

I hope it's this:

 

FC4 -- Channel Map, remaining planes and seaplanes

FC5 -- Tarnopol Map, Sikorsky S-16, S-22, Albatross D.III OAW and other Russian, German and Austro-Hungarian planes.

FC6 -- Italian Front: would include Venice, Marmolada Glacier (The Ice City), Monte Piana, Gorizia, and Pola (Pula).

Would love to see those. The Channel and the Eastern Front were great in Rise of Flight. Especially if they could add in the Ilya Muromets. The Italian Front would be nice to see too, something new.

[Jackfraser24]

10 hours ago, JD007 said:

Would love to see those. The Channel and the Eastern Front were great in Rise of Flight. Especially if they could add in the Ilya Muromets. The Italian Front would be nice to see too, something new.

We’ll have to wait and see. I’d like to see the Macedonian Front completed one day. And the Channel map, Tarnopol and the Italian Alps too. Though these might be left to third party developers. It would be good if 1CGS does it themselves though otherwise we may have to wait till 2030 or longer for the maps to be done. Maybe not though. 

[J2_Steve]

I've been playing with the career files for the western front map. The western front careeer files already contain No 471 Flight and Squadrons 1 and 2 from 3 Naval wing. All flew out of Walmer, just round the corner from Dover. Also a few Marineflieger are in there too. Sopwith Pup pops up now and again as does the Felixstowe, even though I haven't seen anything to indicate that bus is part of any FC future. It looks like it is the channel, maybe extending the western front map to the south coast of England.

Edited February 24, 2024 by J2_Steve