Flying Circus Future

[Zooropa_Fly]

41 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Where?

 

UK

[LukeFF]

16 hours ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

No but IC could have an opportunity to make Flying Circus the best WW1 simulator if they chose do more beyond Vol 4. Indications are they will do nothing.

 

As has been explained, it's not just up to us. It's also up to our third party partners to also want to do more beyond Volume IV. 

[Dr1falcon500]

It's not all about MP.

[=IRFC=Gascan]

I don't really expect anything after Volume 4. I can still express my hopes and dreams so the devs know that I still want more. Perhaps there is enough interest to put in the time and effort to develop more, and I think staying focused on the Western Front is most likely to be the most profitable, and therefore most likely to be done, if anything. Of course, if the devs make a Galicia or Italy module, I would also be very happy. If they don't make anything, I will still enjoy what we have as best I can.

 

On a separate note, Youtube recommended me a video showing a few tanks of chlorine gas erupting, and you can see the sickly green/yellow color and the way the cloud sinks back to the ground and drifts with the wind. That would be so cool to see from the air when passing over a pre-battle bombardment, or gas shells landing around an artillery battery to put it out of action during the start of an attack.

 

[Zooropa_Fly]

12 hours ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

It's not all about MP.

 

 

I don't think anyone said it was.

[Jackfraser24]

Ok, I'm sure that this time Flying Circus Volume IV is going to come out tomorrow. 

[Dr1falcon500]

19 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

 

 

I don't think anyone said it was.

Until Career Mode finally came out it was only thanks to Pat Wilson's campaign generator and the creators who were kind enough to make missions that there was anything for SP. So it was fairly much all about MP.

4 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Ok, I'm sure that this time Flying Circus Volume IV is going to come out tomorrow. 

I wouldn't be betting the farm on that.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

59 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Ok, I'm sure that this time Flying Circus Volume IV is going to come out tomorrow. 

Please don’t, my computer is in repair 😅

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

For sure patch and FC4 are close, would be nice if in present week. Better to get it tested neatly and avoid hot fixes.

[Zooropa_Fly]

On 10/27/2024 at 9:05 PM, Dr1falcon500 said:

It's not all about MP.

 

2 hours ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

So it was fairly much all about MP.

 

I was there at the start, I know how the game evolved.

That's what happens with early access - you don't get everything all at once !

 

I've no idea what point you're trying to make ?

Unless it's some cunning Aussie humour that's flown right over my head.

 

[Dr1falcon500]

7 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

I was there at the start, I know how the game evolved.

That's what happens with early access - you don't get everything all at once !

 

I've no idea what point you're trying to make ?

Unless it's some cunning Aussie humour that's flown right over my head.

I had Vol 1 but not early access. Yeah we're all cunning fellas in Australia.

[Dr1falcon500]

 

[Artfactial]

Ah, good to have an update.:)

[Dr1falcon500]

I'm sure Albatros DIII's will be in the sky soon.

[ST_Catchov]

On 10/21/2024 at 12:19 PM, Jackfraser24 said:

On 10/18/2024 at 4:15 PM, Artfactial said:

Pokes Flying Circus Vol IV
Do something.

I bet it will be here by Wednesday.

 

On 10/24/2024 at 10:42 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

I guess that they want the final product of Flying Circus to be sharpened and polished. My next prediction is that it will be here by Wednesday the 30th.

 

On 10/25/2024 at 6:37 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

best bet is that it will arrive on October 29th. A Tuesday is usually when they release new content (I think).

 

On 10/29/2024 at 3:19 PM, Jackfraser24 said:

Ok, I'm sure that this time Flying Circus Volume IV is going to come out tomorrow. 

 

The tension mounts ....

 

[Jackfraser24]

I was wrong about an October release. I guess it will be sometime in November then.

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I was wrong about an October release. I guess it will be sometime in November then.

 

lol!... I'd keep it zipped about November... all your predictions go straight down the Swanee!  

[Jackfraser24]

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

 

lol!... I'd keep it zipped about November... all your predictions go straight down the Swanee!  

I’m sure it will be this month now. I guess that they were t ready for the October release. I wish they had said something about not being able to make an October release (though please correct me if I am wrong about the last part).

[JG4_Moltke1871]

The release of FC4 was announced for summer, in Australia is still spring so what….

 

But joke aside, the delay is huge but there where talks about improvements of flight models MAYBE we get more then announced. Also not all career missions making sense so far, let’s see what we get in two weeks (?)…

 

When we get a good result this delay can be a gift.

[Jackfraser24]

17 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

The release of FC4 was announced for summer, in Australia is still spring so what….

 

But joke aside, the delay is huge but there where talks about improvements of flight models MAYBE we get more then announced. Also not all career missions making sense so far, let’s see what we get in two weeks (?)…

 

When we get a good result this delay can be a gift.

Funnily enough, I agree with this. Chances are is that they probably found a heap of bugs in the module and they wanted to iron out the game as much as possible. I think that it will be good once Flying Circus Vol.IV is released with the new version of the Western Front map. I just wish that they told us about this. I wish in general that the IL-2 dev team would be more vocal like they used to be before the departure of Jason Williams. For those in the team, please take this as constructive criticism.

[Aapje]

2 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I wish they had said something about not being able to make an October release (though please correct me if I am wrong about the last part).

 

Luke told us.

[Jackfraser24]

7 minutes ago, Aapje said:

 

Luke told us.

Thanks.

[PatrickAWlson]

On 10/29/2024 at 1:19 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

Ok, I'm sure that this time Flying Circus Volume IV is going to come out tomorrow. 

tomorrow, you're always, a day away

[Zooropa_Fly]

Jack, seriously.

Take a day off will you.

 

Play with what you got for a bit.

 

Sweet.

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

Jack, seriously.

Take a day off will you.

 

Play with what you got for a bit.

 

Sweet.

Ok.

[Dr1falcon500]

Volume 4 will arrive sometime. In the meantime I get more enjoyment out of Rise of Flight than Flying Circus.

[BMA_Hellbender]

30 minutes ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

Volume 4 will arrive sometime. In the meantime I get more enjoyment out of Rise of Flight than Flying Circus.

 

I've been meaning to reinstall RoF, mainly for the seaplanes and flying boat. I don't think we'll have another Felixstowe F.2 simulator anytime soon to play The Spider Web WWI anti-submarine missions.

 

Heck, the last actual WWI submarine sim was the pretty awful 1914 Shells of Fury.

[JGr2/J34b_Blackram]

Its pitty WW1 simming is dying...FC server was populated only on sundays and now not even then. 20-30 ppl max. Whats happening? Ppl migrated back to Rise of flight? With Vol4 release well have more ppl online for some time and then it will be kinda empty gain, like it is now.

Sad. Then again even ww2 servers arent so populated these days....Only wings and combatbox more than 40 ppl online each night. And we are almost in winter time when ppl are at home mostly at evenings.

Edited November 13, 2024 by =VARP=BlackRam

[Dr1falcon500]

3 hours ago, =VARP=BlackRam said:

Its pitty WW1 simming is dying...FC server was populated only on sundays and now not even then. 20-30 ppl max. Whats happening? Ppl migrated back to Rise of flight? With Vol4 release well have more ppl online for some time and then it will be kinda empty gain, like it is now.

Sad. Then again even ww2 servers arent so populated these days....Only wings and combatbox more than 40 ppl online each night. And we are almost in winter time when ppl are at home mostly at evenings.

You're talking as if Flying Circus was just about online play. Isn't it possible a lot FC buyers are more interested in SP. Wings Over Flanders Fields doesn't feature MP but seems to sell okay. Judging the health of sim by how many people are on some server doesn't seem valid. I've never used MP, I'm more interested in good campaign or career missions. Perhaps that may be the majority not online players.

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

You're talking as if Flying Circus was just about online play. Isn't it possible a lot FC buyers are more interested in SP.

 

Yes, you nailed it!

[Dr1falcon500]

Wouldn't it have been far less work for Ugria Media to have made the Belgian portion of the Channel map than make Paris? This could have been added to the existing Western Front Map. As it is the map just ends abruptly at the northern end. How often will Paris even be glimpsed in SP career missions or any other than MP?

Edited November 17, 2024 by Dr1falcon500

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 hour ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

Wouldn't it have been far less work for Ugria Media to have made the Belgian portion of the Channel map than make Paris? This could have been added to the existing Western Front Map. As it is the map just end abruptly at the northern end. How often will Paris even be glimpsed in SP career missions or any other than MP?

A good point.

 

But now we get what we get. So I really hope for long range missions and targets in the rear on both sides, to the east the map reached close to cologne…Targeting some factories, bridges and train stations in Paris while career would be very nice…. Same in deeper German territory’s….. 🤤

 

 

Devs, bring us to the edge of our fuel capacities 😜

[Dr1falcon500]

Gothas destroy Notre Dame might be worth seeing.

[MiGCap]

2 hours ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

Gothas destroy Notre Dame might be worth seeing.

 

Couldn‘t have happened. As in the Paris of the DCS WWII Normandy map it is still standing ... ☝🏻

[ST_Catchov]

Will we be able to blow up the Notre Dame Cathedral? 

[Enceladus828]

6 hours ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

How often will Paris even be glimpsed in SP career missions or any other than MP?

Adding onto that, would modelling a long requested aircraft like the BE2 take longer than to model Paris? I have nothing against Paris being modelled it's just adding 1 or 2 more planes like slower two-seaters would have been a better choice.

[Ghost666]

40 minutes ago, MiGCap said:

 

Couldn‘t have happened. As in the Paris of the DCS WWII Normandy map it is still standing ... ☝🏻

It's about ready to reopen after being rebuilt (took 5 years). Maybe this is the second time it has been rebuilt. Or maybe more.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 hour ago, ST_Catchov said:

Will we be able to blow up the Notre Dame Cathedral? 

Don’t mess with Notre Dame!!

 

don’t … don’t…. don’t!!

 

[Aapje]

1 hour ago, Enceladus828 said:

Adding onto that, would modelling a long requested aircraft like the BE2 take longer than to model Paris? I have nothing against Paris being modelled it's just adding 1 or 2 more planes like slower two-seaters would have been a better choice.

 

It's probably different people doing it, so they couldn't just do one instead of the other.

[LukeFF]

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By 1918, the German Spring Offensive targeted Paris. As the German army pushed the boundary of the Western Front to within 75 miles of Paris, the number of aerial attacks increased.

 

During a 5-month period, German airplanes targeted Paris 44 times, dropping 55,000 pounds of explosives onto the capital city. Long-range bombings also targeted the city from 90 miles away. In one particularly devastating attack, German shells landed on a historic church on Good Friday. When the roof collapsed, 91 people died.

 

https://brucewilsonauthor.medium.com/aerial-bombing-in-ww1-and-the-fake-paris-plot-f489eaf5dda5#:~:text=As the German army pushed,city from 90 miles away.

 

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From the beginning of the First World War (1914-1918), Paris was under the bombs. In the fall of 1914 first, then in March 1915, especially, bombed overnight by Zeppelins. In 1918, German bombers made heavy damage, and the physiognomy of the city changed. From January 1918, it will be decided to protect the great monuments and major works and sculptures in the capital.

 

https://www.unjourdeplusaparis.com/en/paris-reportage/paris-se-protegeait-contre-bombardements-allemands

 

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French artist Maurice Busset (1879–1936) turned to an age-old medium—wood-block prints—to portray the 1918 German air raids on Paris in a portfolio he titled Paris Bombardé (Paris Bombarded).

 

The bombardment of Paris was part of Germany’s Spring Offensive (also known as the Ludendorff Offensive)—a massive attack on the Western Front that brought German forces within 75 miles of Paris. The Germans had bombed Paris before, in 1915 and 1916. But the attacks of 1918 were on a larger, more lethal scale. Beginning January 30, Gotha bombers, which were faster and easier to maneuver than the Zeppelins that had carried out previous air raids, attacked Paris by night. In March, Germany’s colossal “Paris Guns”—cannons specially built to bombard the French capital at the unheard-of range of 75 miles—began shelling the city by day.

 

Over five months, the Germans flew 44 raids over Paris and dropped a total of 55,000 pounds of explosives on the city, killing 241 people and injuring hundreds more. In comparison, the attacks of 1915 and 1916 had left 34 people dead. The most shocking of the aerial attacks had come on March 29, 1918, Good Friday, when a shell hit the centuries–old Church of St.-Gervais-et-St.-Provais, causing its vaulted roof to collapse and killing 88 worshipers.

 

https://www.historynet.com/air-raids-over-paris/

 

Yes, guys, Paris was bombed during the war. 🙂