Make western crews for tank and airplanes.

[LUZITANO]

Churchill tank and Normandy map are coming... So we know how popular western battles are... I mean, they are very popular. But... Tank Crew and is faithfully linked to the historical chronologies of the East.

There could be an option in the menu to "choose army/ air force" and the plane or tank would automatically use a default skin from one of the air forces, so far the pilot and voices are modified when the player chooses a skin.

 

This option could expand to all vehicles so they would have multiple crew options.
Example:

P-51B Air forces Cews: USAAF - RAF

109 G-2 Air forces Crews: Luftwaffe - Hung. MKHL - Ita. ANR, etc...
M4A2 Army Crews: USSR - USA - UK

 

This will overvalue the tanks. It will attract American players, who are perhaps the biggest consumer audience or at least are being since Bodenplatte and Normandy hit just that target.

I know maybe it's not a priority, but I think you should consider it because with the new maps the servers will definitely allow planes like A-20 or Kubam's Spitfire Vb to participate in Normandy. It could use the Spitfire IX pilot model, it would be a good start.

I believe this would be a pleasant surprise for the community. One thing that IL-2 outperforms other simulators like DCS or Microsoft Flight Simulator is, in addition to a better imersion, is the fact that it can recreate all the theater and details of historical battles. IL-2 is harder to spot targets from afar, I think that's great... the combat effects, pilot injury, the sun that blinds you when you look in the direction, all this higher level of detail contributes to the "IL -2 Great Battles" be a very rich and complete historical environment.

This is already possible with planes when one chooses a Skin, so... it will eventually happen with tanks. Good job 1C.

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by LUZITANO

[AEthelraedUnraed]

4 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

Spitfire VB Crews: VVS - USSAF - RAF

P-51B Cews: USAAF - RAF

This is already the case....

 

Regarding the crew models that don't exist yet (Italian, Romanian, Hungarian, US tanker, etc.), creating these models isn't cheap and basically something else has to be sacrificed for it. To semi-quote PatrickAWlson, you can't add content *and* keep your schedule *and* maintain quality without sacrificing one of the other two. If you add pilot models (more content), you'll either have to delay Normandy, or make less beautiful aircraft models etc. (quality). Still, Jason has already said they'll eventually make an Italian and Romanian pilot model, but it'll likely take a while.

 

Besides, the Sherman we've got is the wrong type for a US tanker. Basically only the USMC used the M4A2, far away in the East against the Japanese. (A British tanker would be possible though.)

[LUZITANO]

On 1/23/2022 at 8:50 AM, AEthelraedUnraed said:

This is already the case....

 

Regarding the crew models that don't exist yet (Italian, Romanian, Hungarian, US tanker, etc.), creating these models isn't cheap and basically something else has to be sacrificed for it. To semi-quote PatrickAWlson, you can't add content *and* keep your schedule *and* maintain quality without sacrificing one of the other two. If you add pilot models (more content), you'll either have to delay Normandy, or make less beautiful aircraft models etc. (quality). Still, Jason has already said they'll eventually make an Italian and Romanian pilot model, but it'll likely take a while.

 

Besides, the Sherman we've got is the wrong type for a US tanker. Basically only the USMC used the M4A2, far away in the East against the Japanese. (A British tanker would be possible though.)

So I can see how this is going to be developed without spending resources and time. Churchill tank will already possess the British crew. There are already American models of pilots, with the voices and all... the question is: Will the British model be in the Sherman as a western option? And the planes?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

3 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

Churchill tank will already possess the British crew.

Based on? My understanding is that it'll be the lend-leased Churchills fighting at Kursk, and have a Soviet crew.

 

3 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

And the planes?

Again, the planes already have US/GB pilots....

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Based on? My understanding is that it'll be the lend-leased Churchills fighting at Kursk, and have a Soviet crew.

 

Yes, precisely. There has been zero communication about there being British tank crewmen being modeled. 

[LUZITANO]

6 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Based on?

History. It's a British tank.

 

6 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Again, the planes already have US/GB pilots....

Do the lenlease planes in the game now have a western crew option? I did not know that.

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by LUZITANO

[AEthelraedUnraed]

3 minutes ago, LUZITANO said:

Dont asky for a lazy job.

The Devs are really not going to create another tanker model just because you think it's lazy otherwise...

 

6 minutes ago, LUZITANO said:

You know very well that I'm talking about Anglo American planes like Hurricane, P+39, etc... that are part of the Russian front set.

Once again, for the final time, the planes already have US/GB pilots. Already. A L R E A D Y.

 

From the 4.006 release notes:

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24. Battle of Bodenplatte aircraft which have been also lend-leased to USSR (Spitfire-IX, B-25D, P-47D) can have Soviet crews if their country in a mission file is set to the USSR;
25. P-40E (BoM), Spitfire-Vb (BoK) and Spitfire-IXe (BoBp) have American pilots if their country in a mission file is set to the USA;
26. P-40E (BoM), Spitfire-Vb (BoK) and P-51D (BoBp) have British pilots if their country in a mission file is set to the UK;

 

From the 4.504 release notes:

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5. P-39L-1 pilot got a new visual model, animation of removing glasses on the ground and donning an oxygen mask at high altitude. In addition, setting the country of the plane to the UK or USA in the mission file changes the pilot model to UK or USA pilot accordingly;

 

From 4.505:

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5. The A-20B bomber crew visual models were updated, as well as the animation of taking off glasses on the ground and putting on an oxygen mask at altitude. In addition, if the country parameter in the mission file is set to UK or USA the crew models will be British or American respectively;

[LUZITANO]

12 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Once again, for the final time, the planes already have US/GB pilots. Already. A L R E A D Y.

So it's a matter of time before that happens with the tanks, don't be pessimistic.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

22 minutes ago, LUZITANO said:

So it's a matter of time before that happens with the tanks, don't be pessimistic.

Perhaps you're right, perhaps I shouldn't be pessimistic. I think that, if a Tank Crew II ever comes, a Western module definitely belongs to the possibilities. US Sherman, Firefly, M10, M18, Cromwell vs Pz.IV, Jagdpanther, Königstiger, StuG.IV, another Panther. If so,we'll se allied tank crews. But until that time, I don't think we will.

[CountZero]

So they pic this good for nothing tank because it has to be tank for Battle of Prokhorovka and then you expect they should add crew that dont exist in that battle lol good one

[LUZITANO]

2 hours ago, CountZero said:

So they pic this good for nothing tank because it has to be tank for Battle of Prokhorovka and then you expect they should add crew that dont exist in that battle lol good one

Most tank battles take place on plane maps. Bodenplatte + Normandy are the new ones, this tank does not belong only to Prokhorovka.

[LUZITANO]

They should allow this option in singleplayer as well. In multiplayer this is done through the mission itself that creates American, British and Soviet bases, but... it should be like in the 1946 version where you choose the air force in singleplayer.

[RNAS10_Oliver]

To be honest not having a British crew is the only thing that has made me hesitate from dumping my money on the Churchill the moment it was announced.

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

They should allow this option in singleplayer as well. In multiplayer this is done through the mission itself that creates American, British and Soviet bases, but... it should be like in the 1946 version where you choose the air force in singleplayer.

 

That option has always been in SP, and how it's done is explained in the release notes. 

Edited January 26, 2022 by LukeFF

[LUZITANO]

11 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

That option has always been in SP, and how it's done is explained in the release notes. 

It's really, I did a test and it's there... just need to choose the American allied skin. lol 

Nice, nice, nice... well done 1C. Let's hope this will happen eventually with the tanks.