More intriguing comments from Buzzsaw.... possibly the next module?

[Eisenfaustus]

Does anyone know or can deduct from experience who long such a beta test usually takes with TF before VR becomes available for the public?

[BladeMeister]

I have been a customer of TFS, formerly just TF, for many an age, and through my vast experience with their, TFS's, release perogatives, I have found this to be the absolute truth concerning their Beta Testing and update release schedules.

It usually takes until the Beta Testing is completed or,.... wait for it,

..... Two Weeks!

Whichever provides ample time to make certain everything is ready to be released to their customers with confidence that their product, CLOD/DWT, will perform as promised.

Hope this helps.?

 

S!Blade<><

Edited February 2, 2022 by BladeMeister

[Dagwoodyt]

1 hour ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Does anyone know or can deduct from experience who long such a beta test usually takes with TF before VR becomes available for the public?

That is crystal ball territory. If you have/buy DW-T now you have future opportunity to apply for "closed" beta participation. Presumably the "closed" beta will include trueSKY. The official announcement of the closed beta should likely clarify. Once the "closed" beta is in progress those not chosen to participate will (hopefully) see numerous (approved) videos.

Edited February 2, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[OBT-Eazy]

2 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

That is crystal ball territory. If you have/buy DW-T now you have future opportunity to apply for "closed" beta participation. Presumably the "closed" beta will include trueSKY. The official announcement of the closed beta should likely clarify. Once the "closed" beta is in progress those not chosen to participate will (hopefully) see numerous (approved) videos.

 

Join the group of beta testers, make your own videos and publish them (after approbation by TFS) by yourself.

Don't forget to do announcements of the dates of publication of your videos!

We can't wait!

[5th_Barone]

8 hours ago, 9./JG52_J-HAT said:

Progress report on VR:

 

https://steamcommunity.com/app/754530/discussions/0/4792395310119450266/

 

 

So nice to do parkour across the internet to find updates. lol

At least we have good news. Hope the beta won't last that long.

[Dagwoodyt]

57 minutes ago, OBT-Eazy said:

 

Join the group of beta testers, make your own videos and publish them (after approbation by TFS) by yourself.

Don't forget to do announcements of the dates of publication of your videos!

We can't wait!

I volunteer you. NDA to you too!

?

[Blitzen]

Good news I think...?

[Dagwoodyt]

I'd always thought that good news makes for hapiness?

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

This is awesome, can't wait to volunteer for testing!

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

There is no need to sling snide remarks on eachother Things seem to progress and news of VR came, timeline weeks not months I am glad for the VR guys soon being able to test this feature. For non-VR guys, like me, it will be a wait until we see TrueSKY and Graphics+. But it is coming

Edited February 3, 2022 by LLv34_Flanker

[Mysticpuma]

I have to say, I recently purchased a Quest 2 for BoX and it is incredible the immersion VR gives. 

I hope CloD performs as well as BoX. 

There is genuinely a lot more detail going on when interacting with enemy aircraft, more damage details, better hit and smoke effects. 

 

BoX and their new weather system is just incredible in VR, so CloD with Truesky could be just as amazing in VR. 

 

Time will of course tell but VR was a big task for the team and now it is ready for beta (soon), the coders get to complete work on Truesky. 

 

This could be quite amazing.

Let's wait and see when the Beta testing starts and any videos that get released. 

 

Cheers, Mysticpuma 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

19 minutes ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

I am glad for the VR guys soon being able to test this feature. For non-VR guys, like me, it will be a wait until we see TrueSKY and Graphics+.

 

 

Well, if I got it correctly, the wait will be the same for everybody, VR users and non-VR users, because (again, if I'm right) the release of VR and the release of TrueSky are both planned to happen simultaneously when version 6.0 is available.

 

 

[Eisenfaustus]

3 hours ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

Well, if I got it correctly, the wait will be the same for everybody, VR users and non-VR users, because (again, if I'm right) the release of VR and the release of TrueSky are both planned to happen simultaneously when version 6.0 is available.

 

 

Not as I understood it - both will be released far earlier than 6.0 (which might still be years away)

 

The original plan was as you suggest but was revised in favour of a separate release. Could be wrong of course…

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Ok Eisenfaustus! Understood!

 

Thank god Puma started the present thread. This is far more thrilling than a Falcon Crest episode.

 

 

[Dagwoodyt]

4 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Not as I understood it - both will be released far earlier than 6.0 (which might still be years away)

 

The original plan was as you suggest but was revised in favour of a separate release. Could be wrong of course…

To my understanding also the only requirements for those wanting to participate in closed or open betas is to have both Blitz and DW-T installed.

 

[Eisenfaustus]

Maybe - but I don’t have the time to file useful test reports. Thusly I feel it’d be unfair to apply as beta tester

[Dagwoodyt]

2 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Maybe - but I don’t have the time to file useful test reports. Thusly I feel it’d be unfair to apply as beta tester

Obligatory reports won't be required for the "open" beta testing segment as far as I am aware.

[Buzzsaw]

Hello All

 

As MP has noted, I replied on the Steam forums regarding the release of a Steam Beta.

 

This will be a closed beta, limited to those who have both BLITZ and TOBRUK as well as VR equipment.

 

I will be posting a new sign up thread later today, (N America Pacific Time) for those in the community interested in signing up.

[Blitzen]

As a qualified possible choice I look forward to it!?

[JS81Knows]

1 hour ago, Buzzsaw said:

Hello All

 

As MP has noted, I replied on the Steam forums regarding the release of a Steam Beta.

 

This will be a closed beta, limited to those who have both BLITZ and TOBRUK as well as VR equipment.

 

I will be posting a new sign up thread later today, (N America Pacific Time) for those in the community interested in signing up.

Please please don’t let it be first come first served overnight while we Europeans are all asleep!! Or at least we were going to be until this post! Thank you!

[Buzzsaw]

See here:

 

 

[Blitzen]

Thanks for the "heads up, Buzzsaw!?

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

On 2/3/2022 at 2:48 AM, Mysticpuma said:

I have to say, I recently purchased a Quest 2 for BoX and it is incredible the immersion VR gives. 

I hope CloD performs as well as BoX. 

There is genuinely a lot more detail going on when interacting with enemy aircraft, more damage details, better hit and smoke effects. 

 

BoX and their new weather system is just incredible in VR, so CloD with Truesky could be just as amazing in VR. 

 

Time will of course tell but VR was a big task for the team and now it is ready for beta (soon), the coders get to complete work on Truesky. 

 

This could be quite amazing.

Let's wait and see when the Beta testing starts and any videos that get released. 

 

Cheers, Mysticpuma 

My bet is that clod will run better in vr, because it runs way better not in vr (especially with lots of units). I also think TF may be going for an openxr implementation based on comments by Buzzsaw has made before in which he also mentioned they were looking at natively implementing FSR upscaling.

[Enceladus828]

On 1/13/2022 at 7:58 PM, Buzzsaw said:

We hope to have a release announcement in the next month or two until then...  ?

First of all, I completely understand that TFS is not a full-time team and therefore real life events such as their real full-time job, illnesses and other matters, as well as situations going on in the world right now can greatly affect the timeline. Also, there were legal negotiations with a 3rd party that held up TF from continuing their next module that were stated to be resolved in January but possibly the day after still needed to be fully resolved.

 

What I am asking is for a new ETA for the TF 6.0 Pre-release announcement.

 

On 1/13/2022 at 7:58 PM, Buzzsaw said:

The aircraft that is up and flying...

How is the testing of that aircraft going and do you have any other new aircraft up and flying?

 

Thank you ?

[Mysticpuma]

17 hours ago, Enceladus said:

What I am asking is for a new ETA for the TF 6.0 Pre-release announcement.

Last update from Buzzsaw (somewhere here on one of the threads) was Middle of May....so not long.

[Dagwoodyt]

Seems like there is little reason to announce a TF 6.0 until there is at least a "public" beta of the "Visual Update Package". So best to demonstrate patience by not asking.

[Avimimus]

7 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

Last update from Buzzsaw (somewhere here on one of the threads) was Middle of May....so not long.

 

I'm choosing to interpret this as an eta for the eta for the announcement ?

[I.JG3_CDRSEABEE]

Why not do the airwar over Europe with bombers with this engine for the next module?

BoX isn't going to do it and people really want the large bomber formations. 

[Avimimus]

On 7/8/2022 at 9:20 AM, CDRSEABEE said:

Why not do the airwar over Europe with bombers with this engine for the next module?

BoX isn't going to do it and people really want the large bomber formations. 

 

That'd potentially risk needing to recreate a substantial part of the BoBP/BoN planeset. That said, they could include a B-17F if they are doing 1942 to Channel map... I think the big way to avoid overlap would be to find someone who is really keen to code radars. They already have a Wellington, Beaufighter, Ju-88C, Bf-110... adding a new night variant of each along with perhaps a Lancaster... and they'd have an even more unique niche.

 

Of course there is a lot left to do in the Mediterranean/Italy first, Battle of France could do with another five or so aircraft... lots of options

[Buzzsaw]

B-17E/F first deployed in combat in NW Europe in July of 1942 and later participated in Dieppe Raid actions.

 

 

B-17E/F and B-24C/D first deployed in combat in Desert in June 1942, B-24's bombed Ploesti, B-17's/B-24's bombed Afrika Korps in Libya.

 

 

https://www.americanairmuseum.com/unit/4131

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Thank you Buzzsaw, the above message is nothing but a confession!

 

Two years ago, in a interview, you said:

 

"I can tell you that the Pacific is basically not really likely to happen, I don't see it at this point. We are probably looking at continuing the existing planeset and moving it forwards into another environment, another time period further on. So, basically, this game goes up until June of 1942 in the desert and August of 1942 for the Channel map, so we are looking at moving it forward from there on the Channel map, definitely, into the rest of the Summer of 42, the Fall of 42 and the Winter of 42, so for the Channel map... and then another map which as I said I'm not at the liberty to specify at this point. But another map that we think would be of interest of players, and that would be, I think, something new that they haven't seen before, so that's basically as far as I can go."

 

The above quoted statement of yours (mentioning these periods of 1942) and, now, these videos you posted today (mentioning the same periods of 1942)... all of this makes me think we'll have those 4-engine bombers in the game, I mean, the B-17E, the B-17F, the B-24C and the B-24D.

 

I'll try to learn to fly the Fw 190s (A1, A2 and A3) so that I pound your 4-engine bombers appropiately... yep...

 

[Buzzsaw]

You are welcome to speculate Kintaro.

 

However I can't confirm your speculations.  (except the FW-190A-1/A-2/A-3 which I have confirmed many times previously)

 

1C will make any announcement about TF 6.0.

[Enceladus828]

8 hours ago, Avimimus said:

That'd potentially risk needing to recreate a substantial part of the BoBP/BoN planeset. That said, they could include a B-17F if they are doing 1942 to Channel map... I think the big way to avoid overlap would be to find someone who is really keen to code radars. They already have a Wellington, Beaufighter, Ju-88C, Bf-110... adding a new night variant of each along with perhaps a Lancaster... and they'd have an even more unique niche.

I feel if Team Fusion reaches a 1944 or 1945 installment that includes BoN and BoBP aircraft, as well as D-Day and possibly a map from England to Germany which includes the Rhineland map, while there would be some overlap with BoN and BoBP, the main map and the focus of the installment wouldn't be the Channel nor the Rhineland Map. My guess is that it would be Italy from late 1943 to the Summer of 1944, there would be aircraft not in or not flyable IL-2 GBs, and features also not in GBs like the Fritz X and Hs-293 bombs and radar for night fighters.

 

It would basically be, if you want just D-Day or just the Allied advance into Europe from Summer 1944 to Early 1945, get BoN or BoBP; if you want -- as I said -- Italy 1944 plus D-Day and Allied advance into Europe, get the TF installment.

[VBF-12_Pequod]

Mid to late 1942 Channel is 90% (FW-190 confirmed). Not sure about american heavy bombers though.

About the map (something new that we haven't seen before): Tunisia, Malta, Sicily?

 

 

[BladeMeister]

On 7/9/2022 at 5:12 PM, Buzzsaw said:

B-17E/F first deployed in combat in NW Europe in July of 1942 and later participated in Dieppe Raid actions.

 

 

B-17E/F and B-24C/D first deployed in combat in Desert in June 1942, B-24's bombed Ploesti, B-17's/B-24's bombed Afrika Korps in Libya.

 

 

https://www.americanairmuseum.com/unit/4131

Now your just teasing us Buzzsaw and that is just not polite Sir!!!

 

S!Blade<><

[343KKT_Kintaro]

8 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

and that is just not polite Sir!!!

 

 

On the contrary! I love it! Hahahahahahaha!

[JonRedcorn]

Hell I wish we could get all the BOX aircraft in cliffs, It'd be a dream come true, this game does flight simulation 10x better than box.

[Avimimus]

On 7/9/2022 at 6:10 PM, Enceladus said:

I feel if Team Fusion reaches a 1944 or 1945 installment that includes BoN and BoBP aircraft, as well as D-Day and possibly a map from England to Germany which includes the Rhineland map, while there would be some overlap with BoN and BoBP, the main map and the focus of the installment wouldn't be the Channel nor the Rhineland Map. My guess is that it would be Italy from late 1943 to the Summer of 1944, there would be aircraft not in or not flyable IL-2 GBs, and features also not in GBs like the Fritz X and Hs-293 bombs and radar for night fighters.

 

It would basically be, if you want just D-Day or just the Allied advance into Europe from Summer 1944 to Early 1945, get BoN or BoBP; if you want -- as I said -- Italy 1944 plus D-Day and Allied advance into Europe, get the TF installment.

 

My basic thought is that the 8th Airforce (and daylight strategic bombing) has been the single most common WWII flight sim subject. Probably followed by the Battle of Britain.

 

I think Team Fusion's strength (and potential niche) is taking us places that other developers wouldn't - the Mediterranean and Italy, maybe the Battle of France or Spain someday... or modelling radars for night fighters.

 

So I'd definitely bet interested in 'features not in GBs' like radar, but I'm in less of a rush to rebuild the entire 1944-1945 Western European daylight theatre... 

[Mysticpuma]

Appreciate what you say, but realistically, if the team want to make money, they would be looking at popular rather than niche. 

 

P-51's, P-47's, B-17's, B-24's all are popular, all have a large fan base, guaranteed to generate revenue and money generated allows the team room to develop the less popular content (but as you point out, more varied content). 

[Livai]

On 7/22/2022 at 10:14 PM, Mysticpuma said:

Appreciate what you say, but realistically, if the team want to make money, they would be looking at popular rather than niche. 

P-51's, P-47's, B-17's, B-24's all are popular, all have a large fan base, guaranteed to generate revenue and money generated allows the team room to develop the less popular content (but as you point out, more varied content). 

 

I see three options

1.  Introduce new Addon with new Planes for the current maps what we already have
2.  Expanding the current map size to open new possibilities
3.  Go for East or Pacific theatre

I think the first and the second are the best options for CloD next Addon. P-51's, P-47's, B-17's, B-24 too much new planes at once.