More intriguing comments from Buzzsaw.... possibly the next module?

[Mysticpuma]

Hmmm:

Buzzsaw posted in the skinning sectiin:

 

"A-36 could be done, but only after a P-51A is completed... not done before.  It is also map specific... only saw action in the Med in Tunisia and Italy starting in 1943, not in NW Europe.  Obviously, anything in the P-51/A-36 series would be a completely new aircraft."

 

On December 21st Buzzsaw posted:

"Salute All.
At TFS we continue to work on the TF 6.0 module and our Visual Update.  We recently got our first newly modelled aircraft up and flying in the game."

 

Queue speculation ?

[Avimimus]

Well the implication might be that Tunisia and Italy in 1943 are not planned as the next development (which would imply 1942?) Of course, a Mustang I (P-51A) is still a possibility under those conditions.

 

But I think you are encouraging us to try to read far too much into far too few words.

 

So I'm going to deliberately give the wrong answer in response:

IMAM Ro.37

 

It was an important aircraft early in the war. Is slow enough to fight with the Gloster Gladiator... and the Ro.43 version could act as a spotter for the Italian warships...

[ITAF_Airone1989]

Is it a cr47 with rear gunner?

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Cr47 Airone? What is a Cr47? Did you mean a C-47 ?

[ITAF_Airone1989]

Sorry, cr42

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Ok, thank you.

 

So... there really were CR.42s with a rear gunner?

[Buzzsaw]

The aircraft that is up and flying is not a P-51.

 

But that does not exclude the possibility a P-51 might be in the next module... neither does it mean it is included.

 

The only aircraft I can confirm is to be included in the next module is the FW-190A-1/A-2/A-3... but it wasn't the aircraft that was recently up and flying... even so, that newly flying type was a completely new aircraft... so you know it wasn't a variant of an aircraft which was included in BLITZ or TOBRUK.

 

I promised the Butcher Bird would be included a long time ago... so I am not giving anything away by saying it will be included.

 

You can reduce the possibly candidates for what the newly flyable aircraft is by a process of deduction... although you can't be absolutely sure.

 

We hope to have a release announcement in the next month or two until then...  ?

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Thank you Buzzsaw.

 

You know what, guys? my guessing, well, in fact, more my willing than my guessing... goes to a bulky four-engine monster... a B-17 E... or a B-24... or, who knows, a Lancaster... Yep, that latter would be awesome.

 

 

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

Fairey Swordfish could be one, used throughout the war almost everywhere. A bit slow though, so would it be a feasible addition.

 

Of bombers I bet Lancaster is a later plane. More of early war ones like Baltimore, Hampden? How about the long missing Dornier D-17Z?

 

The mandatory Sissyfire guess, because of Wuerger, an early variant of Spitfire Mk.IX? Or even VIII? Bf109G-1/2?

 

Intriguing guessing game ?

 

 

[ITAF_Airone1989]

S.m.79!!!

[Buzzsaw]

30 minutes ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

S! 

 

Fairey Swordfish could be one, used throughout the war almost everywhere. A bit slow though, so would it be a feasible addition.

 

Of bombers I bet Lancaster is a later plane. More of early war ones like Baltimore, Hampden? How about the long missing Dornier D-17Z?

 

The mandatory Sissyfire guess, because of Wuerger, an early variant of Spitfire Mk.IX? Or even VIII? Bf109G-1/2?

 

Intriguing guessing game ?

 

 

The newly added aircraft flying in the game is not a variant of a type which exists in BLITZ or TOBRUK... so not Spitfire/Bf-109.

[Eisenfaustus]

If the next module includes an early 190A we are talking about 1942 and Europe - with all important German and British fighters of that time excluded from the guessing game I think it’s either a bomber or an American fighter other than a P40 variant. 
 

P39? P38? Lancaster? B17?

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Flanker, the Lancaster saw action as early as March 1942, and the game is definitely moving forwards in the timeline, even up into this period of the War.

 

 

[CaptainFlemme]

Could it be a westland whirlwind   ? Totally new, and perfect for every 1941 / 1942 scenario over the channel  ?

[JS81Knows]

I’m thinking Mosquito or Lancaster, but probably Mosquito. The team are quite used to twin engine aircraft, though either would be magic!

[JS81Knows]

1 hour ago, Eisenfaustus said:

If the next module includes an early 190A we are talking about 1942 and Europe - with all important German and British fighters of that time excluded from the guessing game I think it’s either a bomber or an American fighter other than a P40 variant. 
 

P39? P38? Lancaster? B17?

P38 would be super cool! 

[palker4]

Hawker Typhoon Ib

[Dagwoodyt]

Maybe also guess the announcement month 

 

 

[FTC_Karaya]

3 hours ago, palker4 said:

Hawker Typhoon Ib

 

This! Although it would also be nice to have the Ia ingame, just for $hits and giggles.

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

Early 190s could mean a Typhoon MkI (early type with the car-door and some early bubble tops for a bit later) as an opponent and a B-17E/F (maybe also a B-24D) for early daylight bombing missions.

 

The Mustang Mk I/IA and the P-51A/Mustang II would also be a probable and unusual candidate. As well as the A-36.

 

So for now I am guessing it‘s an early Typhoon. With the rest of my list coming with the announcement. 

 

An early  Mosquito (Mk IV B) would mean mostly night time ops, so that and a Lancaster would be for me way lower in the list. There are still the Spitfire and 109 variants we would need to have done for the 190 time frame. 
 

[JV69badatflyski]

Don't try to guess.
I will make it short for you.
Here you go:

TFS has created a plane , a combat beast , maybe the best bomber of WWII, never depicted in a flight sim before.
The LWS-6 Zubr: 

[Enceladus828]

On 1/15/2022 at 9:23 AM, 9./JG52_J-HAT said:

Early 190s could mean a Typhoon MkI (early type with the car-door and some early bubble tops for a bit later) as an opponent and a B-17E/F (maybe also a B-24D) for early daylight bombing missions.

 

The Mustang Mk I/IA and the P-51A/Mustang II would also be a probable and unusual candidate. As well as the A-36.

 

So for now I am guessing it‘s an early Typhoon. With the rest of my list coming with the announcement. 

I doubt they would have a bomber like the A-20, Lancaster, SM.79 or any heavy bombers up and flying right now... but perhaps they do.

 

My guesses are either the MC.200, Swordfish, P-38F, Hs-129.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

Adding to the guessing game. Tobruk is sorely missing one workhorse for Italians: Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 "Sparviero". A fast medium bomber/torpedoplane. Widely used too. 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

14 hours ago, JV69badatflyski said:

never depicted in a flight sim before. The LWS-6 Zubr.

 

 

Really? Not enven in a mod version of "IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946"?

 

At any rate, the air battles over Spain (1936-1939), Poland (1939), and France (1940) deserve better as they should be better represented among combat flight simulators... But, obviously, the next module doesn't depict such theatres of operations because, again obviously, at this stage we already know the next module is titled "IL-2 Sturmovik: Snoppy vs the Red Baron". After a leak happened, I got access to the trailer:

 

 

 

 

[Bussard]

Ju52

[JS81Knows]

On 1/15/2022 at 4:23 PM, 9./JG52_J-HAT said:

Early 190s could mean a Typhoon MkI (early type with the car-door and some early bubble tops for a bit later) as an opponent and a B-17E/F (maybe also a B-24D) for early daylight bombing missions.

 

The Mustang Mk I/IA and the P-51A/Mustang II would also be a probable and unusual candidate. As well as the A-36.

 

So for now I am guessing it‘s an early Typhoon. With the rest of my list coming with the announcement. 

 

An early  Mosquito (Mk IV B) would mean mostly night time ops, so that and a Lancaster would be for me way lower in the list. There are still the Spitfire and 109 variants we would need to have done for the 190 time frame. 
 

Typhoon Mk1 would be awesome! Buzzsaw has said that the new aircraft up and flying isn't a P51, but not that it isn't coming as well. He also said the new plane up and running isn't a variant of a previously existing type ie. Spit / 109! The plot thickens...

43 minutes ago, Bussard said:

Ju52

Please no...! ?

 

[FurphyForum]

I've been waiting for someone to start the ball rolling again with the Ju52.....?

 

Who was it that was ALWAYS asking for the the Ju52?... was it you Bussard? 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

I asked for a Ju 52 in the Dover series, that was about a year ago, and Buzzsaw explained why the Ju 52 implementation is not about to happen in the series, at least not for the moment. This is why I purchased the Great Battles series Ju 52, which is a very nice plane for a survey sim.

 

Please go back to the thread titled "Wishlist for IL2 Cliffs Of Dover Blitz / Desert Wings Tobruk" (in connection with the Ju 52, you'll easily spot Buzzsaw's explanations on page 3) :

 

 

 

[JV69badatflyski]

On 1/17/2022 at 12:46 PM, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

 at this stage we already know the next module is titled "IL-2 Sturmovik: Snoppy vs the Red Baron". After a leak happened, I got access to the trailer:

 

 

 

 

Damned, i told you to keep it for you, it was supposed to be top secret.

[4SCT_V-Twin]

" only saw action in the Med in Tunisia and Italy starting in 1943, not in NW Europe"
It's the Macchi C205!!! ?????????

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

12 minutes ago, 4SCT_V-Twin said:

" only saw action in the Med in Tunisia and Italy starting in 1943, not in NW Europe"
It's the Macchi C205!!! ?????????

You got my hopes up with this comment, since I didn’t remember this passage. But when reading the phrase in context again he is talking about the A-36… ?

[4SCT_V-Twin]

5 minutes ago, 9./JG52_J-HAT said:

You got my hopes up with this comment, since I didn’t remember this passage. But when reading the phrase in context again he is talking about the A-36… ?

Accidenti...you're right...out of the context I completely misunderstood the phrase...

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Please gentlemen take into account Buzzsaw's statements last year (March the 3rd, 2021? "The Campaign for Tunisia" [...] "will not be the subject of TF 6.0"

[No.54_Reddog]

Well given that TF had a typhoon model at least 5 years ago, and it's the plane that was made operational in response to the 190, then I'd say it almost certainly is the early Typhoon.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

4 hours ago, No.54_Reddog said:

TF had a typhoon model at least 5 years ago.

 

 

Really? Is there anything on this we could still find in the internet?

 

 

[Peachy9]

Beaufort?

[Blitzen]

He-59- It was "nearly" done at the first roll out of Cliffs of Dover years ago .It and the Walrus would complete the aircraft needed for promised rescue of downed airmen missions...

[Spook109]

My money is on the Farley Fruitbat. It may not be the aircraft you want, but it's the aircraft you need.

[blockheadgreen_]

Futile, I know, but still I'm holding out for a Whirlwind lmao. 

 

Having gotten into CLoD again this past few weeks I'm very anxious to see some new 3d models and more of an idea of what's being planned! I'm most excited for the new Spitfire variants however. That and the 190, which is the only German aircraft I really have any interest in. 

[Mysticpuma]

Latest news is that the Graphics update is coming (hopefully) in the second quarter of 2022. Whether VR comes before that (which was planned to happen before the release of the graphics update) is unclear.

 

The next module should be announced before or by the end of February if current reports are correct. 

 

 

Strangely, looking back to November 2020, I actually predicted the graphics update as mid. 2022

 

 

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by Mysticpuma