Is there a diffrence between a German 500lb bomb vs an American 500lb?

[BBAS_Tiki_Joe]

In the past on ground attack missions, I usually fly the BF110 and the 2x German 500lbers feel like they are way more effective in their destructive power. I've been playing around in the p47 and p51 taking the two 500lb bombs and for some reason it just feels like I'm not destroying nearly as much on my runs. I'm just kind of interested in if there is any difference in blast radius/force between the two. I know most likely it is just my Aim? Just curious. 

[Yogiflight]

11 minutes ago, BBAS_Tiki_Joe said:

In the past on ground attack missions, I usually fly the BF110 and the 2x German 500lbers feel like they are way more effective in their destructive power. I've been playing around in the p47 and p51 taking the two 500lb bombs and for some reason it just feels like I'm not destroying nearly as much on my runs. I'm just kind of interested in if there is any difference in blast radius/force between the two. I know most likely it is just my Aim? Just curious. 

Are you sure you are using 500lbs bombs on the Bf 110? Because in fact Germans don't have them. They have 500 kg bombs and 250 kg bombs, later one is more or less fitting 500 lbs (551,156 lbs).

[Art-J]

As Yogi pointed, IF you haven't noticed units difference (which might be the case here), German "500" is roughly twice the size of US/UK "500", so bigger blast is to be expected.

Edited December 30, 2021 by Art-J

[DD_Arthur]

3 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

(551,156 lbs).

 

Thats one hell of a bomb!?

[BBAS_Tiki_Joe]

28 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

Are you sure you are using 500lbs bombs on the Bf 110? Because in fact Germans don't have them. They have 500 kg bombs and 250 kg bombs, later one is more or less fitting 500 lbs (551,156 lbs).

Lol, Yeah that is what I missed. KG/LB didn't think to look at that. Not going to feel that bad about it though, I heard NASA lost a few rockets because they didn't convert metric to imperial right. Just a good ol' typical American mistake. ?

[Avimimus]

47 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Thats one hell of a bomb!?

 

In some countries they use a comma for a decimal. I think Yogiflight meant ~551.156lb

[Halon]

Don't listen to them Joe, its all to do with 'vorsprung durch technik' ?

[Avimimus]

16 minutes ago, BBAS_Tiki_Joe said:

Lol, Yeah that is what I missed. KG/LB didn't think to look at that. Not going to feel that bad about it though, I heard NASA lost a few rockets because they didn't convert metric to imperial right. Just a good ol' typical American mistake. ?

 

Yes, Lockheed Martin engineers weren't using the same units as the scientists:  "The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software supplied by Lockheed Martin produced results in a United States customary unit, contrary to its Software Interface Specification (SIS), while a second system, supplied by NASA, expected those results to be in SI units, in accordance with the SIS. Specifically, software that calculated the total impulse produced by thruster firings produced results in pound-force seconds. The trajectory calculation software then used these results – expected to be in newton-seconds (incorrect by a factor of 4.45)"

(from Mars Climate Orbiter - Wikipedia)

 

More aviation related - a conversion error was one of the events that led to the Gimli glider (where a 767 ran out of a fuel mid-flight and had to be glided down onto a former WW2 airbase that had been converted to a race track in Iceland's only colony - the town of Gimli Manitoba in Canada):

 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

27 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

In some countries they use a comma for a decimal. I think Yogiflight meant ~551.156lb

Kommata in german are Points, Points in German are Commas. 

[Yogiflight]

2 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Thats one hell of a bomb!?

 

2 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

In some countries they use a comma for a decimal. I think Yogiflight meant ~551.156lb

Oops, yes exactly. It is the way Klaus_Mann explained it. Sometimes I mix those things up.

[Jade_Monkey]

Any practical difference in-game between British and American bombs of the same category? Other than visually looking different of course.

[Avimimus]

13 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Any practical difference in-game between British and American bombs of the same category? Other than visually looking different of course.

 

For the P-51B-5, Typhoon and Tempest... not really. The British MC bombs were pretty similar to the American GP and the German SC series.

 

However, the Spitfires IX and XIV and Hurricane use earlier British 'GP' bombs... with much smaller explosive charges, and much thicker walls (which are closer to German SD bombs than they are to American GP bombs).

 

This should make them better at penetrating. If my understanding is correct this should also generally lead to fewer but larger shrapnel fragments (not sure if that is modelled though).

 

P.S. There may be other, subtler, differences (e.g. type of metal and construction methods impacting shrapnel, changes in explosion due to differences in fusing)

[Avimimus]

Also, they have slightly different weights (if one mouses over the air-to-ground modification in the menu it will show this). 

[PatrickAWlson]

On 12/30/2021 at 11:09 AM, BBAS_Tiki_Joe said:

Lol, Yeah that is what I missed. KG/LB didn't think to look at that. Not going to feel that bad about it though, I heard NASA lost a few rockets because they didn't convert metric to imperial right. Just a good ol' typical American mistake. ?

 

No worries.  I posted a complaint that my new VR headset was tinted blue.  They asked me if I took the protective sheet off of it.  Problem solved.