People Disconnecting on purpose

[54th_Hashashin]

Dear People,

 

Not sure if it is possible at all, but would'nt it be nice if people who log out of the game when they know they are gonna get

attacked/shot during an online multiplayer to save time and kill/death ratio that they would get A DEATH for doing so?

Some guys in EU official do it all the time... 

 

Hashashin

[ACG_Orb]

Don't worry about it.  Just move on and play the game with those still in the server.

[SIA_Sp00k]

He has a point. Ever since the new players joined incidents of this type have increased in number to daily, almost map rotation events.  Dont care about it once the shooting starts and the kill is awarded regardless, however these players see you closing on their six or beating them in a turn and then become vapourware...*poof*

 

Not sure what you do about it other than get mad and call them weak.

 

<insert angry face and some generic "weak" statement>

[Feathered_IV]

I like to disconnect, and you can’t sto...

[357th_Esco]

A long time ago I mentioned it would be good if to disconnect the auto pilot took over once “disconnect” is pressed and put the plane into straight and level flight for about 20-30 seconds and then the disconnect took place to avoid people from doing this. It would require the person to quit only once they know they are safe. 

Edited December 23, 2021 by VBF-12_Esco

[Lusekofte]

Well I am not often online. But I have a problem that flying JU 52 all my controls freeze up. And other times flying other planes I get connection to game server lost

So it can very likely some of the instances are accidental

[Lord_Strange]

Unfortunately all we can do is wag a finger disapprovingly. I don't fly fighters online much anyway, but I haven't experienced this behaviour on FVP or Combat Box, so perhaps it would be a case of finding a server with more honourable pilots.

[BBAS_Tiki_Joe]

I really like how Flugpark does it on their ww1 server, there is a fairplay index in the stats and it goes does down with each disconnect. The lower your fairplay index is, the less less points you get from kills or ground attacks. If your fairplay index drops, it takes time to build it back. I think like an hour or so per 10%. Also, it is not hard to see who the Cheaters/Disconnecter's are. I know of a couple, always on the best top live pilot streaks, you just go into their stats and you can see all the disco's. I've never gotten this attitude, what is the point of just showing up in the top of the stats when you know it to be based on cheating. People are weird. 

[CountZero]

3 hours ago, 54th_Hashashin said:

Dear People,

 

Not sure if it is possible at all, but would'nt it be nice if people who log out of the game when they know they are gonna get

attacked/shot during an online multiplayer to save time and kill/death ratio that they would get A DEATH for doing so?

Some guys in EU official do it all the time... 

 

Hashashin

Have youe hear we will get Air Marshal to solve our MP problems, that is exactly what MP players need and wont...

 

1 hour ago, VBF-12_Esco said:

A long time ago I mentioned it would be good if to disconnect the auto pilot took over once “disconnect” is pressed and put the plane into straight and level flight for about 20-30 seconds and then the disconnect took place to avoid people from doing this. It would require the person to quit only once they know they are safe. 

 

Thats exactly what game can do better, if player lost conection or disconected intentionaly, his airplane is still in game for some time on auto pilot, so if he did it intentionaly he will get shot down no mather what.

49 minutes ago, Lord_Strange said:

Unfortunately all we can do is wag a finger disapprovingly. I don't fly fighters online much anyway, but I haven't experienced this behaviour on FVP or Combat Box, so perhaps it would be a case of finding a server with more honourable pilots.

Because they are using disco mod for stats, that punish player if he disconects with capture insted just disco when he have damage done to his airplane short time before he disconected, you punish bad behavior, then there is no benefit in doing it, so sudenly it dosent happend any more , who would guess. DED server dont use this so it will be abused, WoL just have part of it where kill is reworded to guy who shoot, but guy who disco still dont get KIA so youll see it there happening to avoid lowering K/D.

[Jade_Monkey]

Imagine being so petty that they Alt+F4 before the enemy shoots at you.

 

On my book you already won even before take off.

 

I understand the frustration but don't reduce yourself to their level, just laugh.

 

I don't care much for stats, so when possible i let them take the kill (once i have no chances of survival) before I leave the server if i don't have time for another sortie.

[Livai]

Is disconnection not a sneaky way to teleport behind your tail to increase the kill ratio?

[AndyJWest]

It's multiplayer. Multiplayer attracts people who are more concerned with 'winning' than actually enjoying flying an air combat simulator. Servers can try to minimise such behaviour, but they'll never be able to eliminate it entirely.

 

Ignore the stats.

[Raptorattacker]

Unfortunately EVERY arena that involves 'stats' also involves 'people' who are totally obsessed with said stats.

It says more about that person than it does about either you or the game (in this case THIS fantastic game).

The only downside to this is that it also drags you into their world. Their world is a shallow and trite place indeed, so just you carry on and play the gane and (quite justifiably) shake your head and fly on!

Rap

[SCG_Wulfe]

43 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

It's multiplayer. Multiplayer attracts people who are more concerned with 'winning' than actually enjoying flying an air combat simulator.

 

So fighter pilots. You're saying multiplayer attracts fighter pilots? ?

Edited December 23, 2021 by SCG_Wulfe

[Cynic_Al]

2 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

So it can very likely some of the instances are accidental

 

The first time they happen they should not be treated as deliberate.  It's when the same player is involved repeatedly that action is taken.

[[CPT]Crunch]

But don't do the delay until you get a valid ground exit for bailout button, because you've got zero chance against the vultures than.

[JG7_RudeRaptor]

6 hours ago, 54th_Hashashin said:

Dear People,

 

Not sure if it is possible at all, but would'nt it be nice if people who log out of the game when they know they are gonna get

attacked/shot during an online multiplayer to save time and kill/death ratio that they would get A DEATH for doing so?

Some guys in EU official do it all the time... 

 

Hashashin

 

Back in the original IL-2 series we had a name for those type of people. ?

 

 

[[CPT]Crunch]

Is that the world famous RayBanJockey?

[J2_Bidu]

5 hours ago, BBAS_Tiki_Joe said:

I know of a couple, always on the best top live pilot streaks, you just go into their stats and you can see all the disco's. I've never gotten this attitude, what is the point of just showing up in the top of the stats when you know it to be based on cheating. People are weird. 

 

I've had the unpleasant experience (in ROF days) of repeatedly disconnecting due to ISP problems. These disconnections sometimes happened in very suspicious circumstances (guy on my 6, etc.), but it was just hopeless, I could do nothing about it. Of course probabilities being what they are, I sometimes vanished while killing someone, but since I wasn't an above average pilot, that was probably less frequent, and I'm sure some may have thought I was a cheater. This isn't to say that these guys are NOT cheaters, of course - they may well be. The only reasonable way to tell is if the guy reconnects and commits suicide to somehow repair the damage, in that case he's probably not cheating. Some may hvae recognized that I probably was not a cheater when I disconnected during those three hour Gotha flights across the Channel. ? I'm in ISP heaven, now.

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

It's multiplayer. Multiplayer attracts people who are more concerned with 'winning' than actually enjoying flying an air combat simulator. Servers can try to minimise such behaviour, but they'll never be able to eliminate it entirely.

 

Ignore the stats.

 

This.

 

When you’re online it’s not about history or realism to most - it’s “E-Sports”

 

Chalk it up as a victory and move on. If your a stat-whore then you’re already a loser.

[RyanR]

Funny that this is still a thing. I got out of online simming in the 1990's because of this sort of stuff. One solution back then was to disable all the keys like alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, window, etc.

 

-Ryan

[Diggun]

It's not really still a thing though is it? It's like in the fractions of a percent of the time on very few servers.

 

There will always be people who think they can bend the rules for themselves, and they will always be very obviously looking like what they are.

[spreckair]

If a player disconnects, why not just have the plane crash into the ground and credit the nearest opponent?  That might solve it.

[BlitzPig_EL]

You guys simply are not ruthless enough.

 

Someone discos, complete stats wipe.  If he does it again, total ban from server.

 

That will fix the issue.

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

You guys simply are not ruthless enough.

 

Someone discos, complete stats wipe.  If he does it again, total ban from server.

 

That will fix the issue.

 

Ha - I never gave second chances when I hosted CoOps.

One ass-hat move and you're gone - poof! I used to boot people for taking off out of sequence ?

(getting out of line and racing ahead of everyone else)

[Guster]

5 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

You guys simply are not ruthless enough.

 

Someone discos, complete stats wipe.  If he does it again, total ban from server.

 

That will fix the issue.

 

Three strikes and you'll have to create a new account and buy the game again.

[J2_Bidu]

7 hours ago, spreckair said:

If a player disconnects, why not just have the plane crash into the ground and credit the nearest opponent?  That might solve it.

 

This would have interrupted most if not all of the best streaks of truly great players in FC. That's why.

[Zooropa_Fly]

Didn't happen often, but in RoF if it did at a suspicious looking time - I'd log back in and briefly explain.

Probably wouldn't bother in IL2 to be honest - there's not a lot of comms in the chat boxes, 'colder' atmoshere than RoF, which is fine.

I've only come across 2 pilots I can think of who used to do it regularly.

 

[Raptorattacker]

14 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Chalk it up as a victory and move on. If your a stat-whore then you’re already a loser.

Couldn't have put it better meself Mr G!!

[Strewth]

9 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

You guys simply are not ruthless enough.

 

Someone discos, complete stats wipe.  If he does it again, total ban from server.

 

That will fix the issue.

In all fairness. There are some of us in rural locations that do drop out occasionally and don't want to be punished even more because of an already shitty telco system.
The drop outs are somewhat rare and can happen on their airfield, in combat, or just flying along minding your own business. In saying that, it becomes obvious when someone only drops out during a losing phase of battle.
I personally don't give a hoot about stats, but apparently some crave the numbers. It is such a shame that these people exist, but they do and if there is a good way of dealing with them, well that's a great thing.

Cheers.

 

[CountZero]

funny how ppl at same time dont care about stats or win but dont play MP because oponent may disconect LOL

so you dont care about it but its preventing you from playing.

 

this disco problem is less a prolem now when servers stats punish it, only thing missing now is game devs making it unfavorable when airplane is not damaged, and they can do that by making airplane just fly strait like AI when player lost conection.

 

you have to have stats to have players come back to play, if servers dont have stats you would not have any players playing online. 

tanks in MP were nonexistant before stats for them, now you see some playing just because they can track their stats online.

 

im sure all thouse SP players dont look at their stats in SP campaings and they play 50+ repeting missions just for joy and not trying to see if they can get 50-100 or what not number of kills without death to pilot and so on... 

[Gambit21]

23 minutes ago, CountZero said:

 

im sure all thouse SP players dont look at their stats in SP campaings and they play 50+ repeting missions just for joy and not trying to see if they can get 50-100 or what not number of kills without death to pilot and so on... 

 

Quite a few I’d imagine yes.

 

Further, your offline ‘stats’ are not available to the public - thus not contributing to the ‘stat-whore’ issue.

 

Youre 2 for 2 today.

 

[Beebop]

Stats are nice.

Getting back home alive is better.

Landing with your plane in one piece/repairable.......

Priceless!

[PatrickAWlson]

I do that sometimes.  Then I remember that I'm playing single player.

[[DBS]TH0R]

On 12/23/2021 at 3:00 PM, VBF-12_Esco said:

A long time ago I mentioned it would be good if to disconnect the auto pilot took over once “disconnect” is pressed and put the plane into straight and level flight for about 20-30 seconds and then the disconnect took place to avoid people from doing this. It would require the person to quit only once they know they are safe. 

 

+1