DBFlyguy Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 After several years of waiting, this has finally hit Early Access on Steam, has anyone tried it out yet? Thinking about picking it up but still kinda iffy....
Gambit21 Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 I was hoping that it would be a true successor to the original Rainbow Six...but feedback here said that sort of went out the window. Overly dark for me - too bad. That’s OK - no time for it anyway.
DBFlyguy Posted December 21, 2021 Author Posted December 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: I was hoping that it would be a true successor to the original Rainbow Six...but feedback here said that sort of went out the window. Overly dark for me - too bad. That’s OK - no time for it anyway. Yeah, from what I've seen it looks like a "spiritual" SWAT 4 successor (which I loved!) even the TOC voice sounds very SWAT4-ish. I'll probably eventually pick it up, just holding off for right now until I see if they are gonna actively keep working on it...
Mtnbiker1998 Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 I've been playing with a buddy, we're definitely fans. Its VERY hardcore, challenging and the game punishes you hard for being careless. Great coop experience. We've encountered a few bugs but nothing that has completely ruined the experience. 1 1
Eisenfaustus Posted December 22, 2021 Posted December 22, 2021 SWAT 4 deserves a successor - I’ll give it a try!
scram77 Posted December 22, 2021 Posted December 22, 2021 Got this last night and had a quick play about in single player. Starting area - the police station is well done and you're able to change weapon loadouts, customise your weapons, go to the firing range or shoot house and select your missions. Seems to be other rooms there which I've not found uses for yet, but sure they will be used in the future. The missions themselves are tough (not sure I completed one in the time I played) but the eway you work with your team is well done and very easy to use. The levels I played in were pretty dark but I didn't know if I had a flashlight I could use and didn't play about with the brightness settings so not really a problem. Otherwise I haven't found a downside to the game yet and am looking forward to playing more. 1 1
Luger1969 Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 Its on my buy list. Seriously good reviews % on Steam.
Remontti Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 I got this one too. Swat 4 was one of my all time favorite games and this very much like it. The content you get atm is bit low. Few levels and some mechanics are still work in progress (at least I hope so). But it is still fun and challenging now. If they just keep developing this it will something fantastic some day. At least keep a keen eye on it if you're not buying it already.
Trooper117 Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 Not really interested in playing a rozzer... 1
DetCord12B Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 I'm already modding it in UE4 (DEA-SRT). Really looking forward to seeing how it progresses. Finished the OPSC helmet, added custom team markings and patches (each team member has custom patches), weathered the helmets/gear and retextured them, retextured the MSA sets, added custom normals and specs to the helmets/rams/shields, AO's and the like, etc etc etc. Still a long way to go on the uniforms. Haven't even started on those yet. Still very much a WIP. 2
Gambit21 Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 Blech - no thanks. Too dank/horror film’esque.
DetCord12B Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 2:46 AM, Gambit21 said: Blech - no thanks. Too dank/horror film’esque. So was the SWAT series, and they were easily the best tactical shooters ever made. WIP version available - https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/165 2
Gambit21 Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, DetCord12B said: So was the SWAT series, and they were easily the best tactical shooters ever made. Then by defenition disqualifies it from being so for me. I’ll take a Rainbow Six remake though. I had no interest in the original SWAT either.
Eisenfaustus Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Gambit21 said: Then by defenition disqualifies it from being so for me. I’ll take a Rainbow Six remake though. I had no interest in the original SWAT either. While I absolutely loved ravenshield it took difficult for realistic - I remember fondly being headshoted by a mac10 wielding drug addict who saw me half a second before ^^ I loved the brothers in arms also very much
Trooper117 Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Gambit21 said: I’ll take a Rainbow Six remake though. I had no interest in the original SWAT either. My sentiments entirely... 1
DetCord12B Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 22 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Then by defenition disqualifies it from being so for me. I’ll take a Rainbow Six remake though. I had no interest in the original SWAT either. But why? Not to pry or be antagonistic or anything, but the original R6/OGR was a gritty story full of ethnic cleansing, murderous rampage, rape, and bodies dumped into mass-graves and so on. Minus Raven Shield that did the whole resurgent Nazi nonsense due to political backlash following the VG article in which RSE essentially redesigned the entire game due to pubs pissing and moaning. So what disqualifies the themes of those games with the themes of this one? 20 hours ago, Trooper117 said: My sentiments entirely... Well timed one-liner. Can I offer you another piss-take?
Eisenfaustus Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Just played a full mission - I find the gameplay very intense. Yes - buggy (It IS early access after all) but very similar to how I remember SWAT 4! I think I will get much fun out of this ^^ Does any of you have any experiences with Zero Hour? How does it compare to Raedy or Not?
Trooper117 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 6 hours ago, DetCord12B said: Can I offer you another piss-take? I wasn't taking the piss mate... there wasn't much more to add. I played all the R6 games to death... loved them. I tried SWAT when it came out but just couldn't get into it. I've watched some gameplay over the last few months from RoN... still doesn't float my boat I'm afraid.
Denum Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 To sweaty, I have no desire to LARP as a cop that seriously. Hard no. 1
DBFlyguy Posted January 6, 2022 Author Posted January 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said: Does any of you have any experiences with Zero Hour? How does it compare to Raedy or Not? 1
Gambit21 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, DetCord12B said: But why? Not to pry or be antagonistic or anything, but the original R6/OGR was a gritty story full of ethnic cleansing, murderous rampage, rape, and bodies dumped into mass-graves and so on. Minus Raven Shield that did the whole resurgent Nazi nonsense due to political backlash following the VG article in which RSE essentially redesigned the entire game due to pubs pissing and moaning. So what disqualifies the themes of those games with the themes of this one? Well timed one-liner. Can I offer you another piss-take? Well if you think the original RB6 and this game match each other even a little bit in the horror’esque vibe department then you and I remember RB6 very differently. You also might expose yourself to this sort of thing regularly and are thus desensitized to noticing it. (no idea, I make no assumptions and no offense in any case) RB6 is my thing - SWAT and this one are not. Glad you like it though. Edited January 7, 2022 by Gambit21
DBFlyguy Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 Another one to keep an eye on.... This is looking good! And "from the original developers of Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon..." has my attention!
Trooper117 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 I've been watching Ground Branch for some time... when the SP side gets properly fleshed out I'll probably buy it. The single player experience will follow this path at this moment in time... 1. GROUND BRANCH's unique "campaign" format will deliver smaller, more localized sets of missions based around global hotspots, with a centralized intelligence interface to monitor them and receive new mission orders over time. The choices you make along the way may affect future engagements. 2. Enemies are spawned at mission start, with a degree of randomization to quantity and location. No "monster closets" or magic enemy spawns based on player location or mission progress. It definitely looks more geared to R6 gameplay than any of the other similar products out there at present. 1
Rei-sen Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Even in it's early access form, it's great! I really like it. Also, not that I'm a huge fan of police, but the fact that some kotaku (part of kinja media shithole) soy boys are butt hurt from it is an extra bonus? Edited January 8, 2022 by Arthur-A 1
Eisenfaustus Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Arthur-A said: Also, not that I'm a huge fan of police You are not the first one to show this sentiment in this threat and I am ... surprised? What is qrong with keeping Law and order? One thing I loved about SWAT 4 was that it was actually about arresting people rather then killing them on sight and that you actually had to follow rules of engagement to score!
Trooper117 Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Eisenfaustus said: What is qrong with keeping Law and order? It's not that people think that law and order is wrong... it's just that many don't want or are interested in that kind of tactical game. I'm also not interested in taking bad guys prisoner. In Ground Branch for instance, any terrorist you meet is to be killed, plain and simple... I'd rather play that way than sticking a set of cuffs on a bad guy that's decided to put his hands up.
No_Face Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Personally I find it too expensive for early access, so I will continue to follow it until a better price comes along (yes, I am patient) but it looks very good, I have had it on my wish list for a while. Otherwise there is also Zero Hour, which I got for 5€ on sale which is in the same spirit (but I think, still below Ready or Not although I never played the latter) 1 hour ago, Eisenfaustus said: One thing I loved about SWAT 4 was that it was actually about arresting people rather then killing them on sight and that you actually had to follow rules of engagement to score! Yes, it is more difficult to capture than to kill. I like this aspect. (Even if sometimes I would like to throw frags grenades and shoot at everything ?) EDIT : I didn't see that it already talked about Zero Hour above, sorry. Edited January 8, 2022 by No_Face
Eisenfaustus Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 I really like the AI! Good teammates in tactical shooters are rare - games usually cheat to stay fun (teammates are invisible to the enemy until the is spotted ect) But here your teammates try not to pass open doors to avoid detection but press home an attack to the next room when a suspect flees without wandering off to far - very good! 3 hours ago, Trooper117 said: I'm also not interested in taking bad guys prisoner. In Ground Branch for instance, any terrorist you meet is to be killed, plain and simple... I'd rather play that way than sticking a set of cuffs on a bad guy that's decided to put his hands up. I get that part absolutely - yet for me as non native speaker „rozzer“ implied more hostility - didn’t get the joke
Remontti Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) For those playing Ready or Not I recommend checking out the Still standind mod. It alters the superhuman ai reaction times. But you can easily mod it to your liking by yourself. For example I changed Active shooter scenario so that there are 1-3 bad guys and 25 civilians. It is total chaos. Edited January 11, 2022 by Remontti 1
VBF-12_Pequod Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 If you're a fan of SWAT4 you'll love Ready or Not. I own Ground Branch, Squad, Insurgency Sandstorm, Zero Hour... but in the end I prefer RoN because it offers a different experience. 1
Monostripezebra Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 I gotta say I like the Zero Hour arresting mechanics with the AI reconsidering surender somewhat better then Ready or Not
Remontti Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 3:12 PM, Monostripezebra said: I gotta say I like the Zero Hour arresting mechanics with the AI reconsidering surender somewhat better then Ready or Not There is no single player with ai team in Zero Hour, correct?
Monostripezebra Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 1:43 PM, Remontti said: There is no single player with ai team in Zero Hour, correct? Correct. Albeit I find the AI team in Ready or Not thoroughly annoying. In the end, both are best played with people. In Zero Hour I so far had some luck finding friendly randoms with whom playing was fun, in Ready or Not that was definately worse.. but it is better with friends, overall probably the better coop game.
Eisenfaustus Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 AI currently just can’t replace human beings - no doubt. But in my perception RoN friendly AI sucks far less already than basically any other FPS I played so far…
Remontti Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) I'm more interested in the SP side and I think RoN AI team is doing ok. Sometimes they do stupid things but most of the time they are useful. I might check Zero Hour again if gets proper SP. RoN got just updated and got some new content. I tried some but not enough to say what has changed. One thing that irritates me is that those maps are far to big for a 5 man team. And they are maze like so it is easy to get lost in them. Edited January 30, 2022 by Remontti
Eisenfaustus Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 Has anyone here already some experience with black one bloodbrothers? From screenshots I got the impression it might be for raven shield what RoN is for SWAT4. 1 hour ago, Remontti said: One thing that irritates me is that those maps are far to big for a 5 man team. And they are maze like so it is easy to get lost in them. True - the unrealistic size of your team (real life SWAT significantly outnumber expected suspects by far) is a gameplay decision I can live with quite well. Yet before entering a complex held by armed suspects SWAT teams would study the ground plan - but I think maps are planned for the future?
Remontti Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Eisenfaustus said: Has anyone here already some experience with black one bloodbrothers? From screenshots I got the impression it might be for raven shield what RoN is for SWAT4. I noticed this one too in Steam. Seems to be quite Work in Progress at the moment so I will wait and see.
DBFlyguy Posted December 29, 2022 Author Posted December 29, 2022 Finally picked this up during the steam sale and I'm absolutely loving it so far! Definitely feels like a worthy successor to SWAT 4. It's been steady updates this year so if you're on the fence, I highly recommend picking it up!
Remontti Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 How is the AI? Does it stll head shot the player in 0,5 seconds?
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