EMG by Vander for some 1940 "Case Yellow" Western Front Campaign missions

[kraut1]

Hi All,

Hi Vander, thanks for your great mission generator!

I am flying currently a mixed flight simulation offline campaign (results only in a manual table).

After some War Thunder offline (custom) missions in the Ardennes (Map: Operation France 1944) I downloaded Vander's easy Mission Generator and found out, that some of the 1944 - 1945 Rhineland map frontlines could be used for some (few) 1940 Luftwaffe vs RAF missions too.

 

Modified plane set:

-BF109-E7 used as BF109-E3: I switch to manual propeller and water cooler pitch control, without bullet proof wind shield.

This schould be similar to e BF109-E3, disadvantage: in May 1940 no MG-FF/M with mine shells available

This plane I used for my test flight.

-BF110-E used as BF110-C: may be be used with manual propeller / cooler settings

-HE111-H6

-Huricane MKII

-A20: unrealistic, just to have something for allied bomber / attack plane sets

I try to define my missions in a way to avoid contact with A20s

 

Scenarios:

see 2 attached drafts for scenarios

German Luftwaffe missions with my current plane set:

-escort missions with BF109

-attack mission with BF110 (only guns, no bombs), not tested

-bomber mission with HE111, not tested

British RAF missions:

-intercept missions, not tested

 

to be changed / tested later:

BF109 as attack plane (in 1940 only with guns, no bombs)

Hurricane II as attack plane (in 1940 only with guns, no bombs)

 

Tested by me:

1 16th May 40 BF109 escort mission from Gilze Rijn

 

The results of my mixed simulation campaign I write into a log book table.

After some Great Battles EMG by Vander missions I will continue (if I survive) with some CLOD Blitz TheOden Dynamic Mission missions.

 

Best regards

 

PS: I don't know if  there are already much better adaptions for 1940 in use. If yes please inform me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SYN_Vander]

On 12/11/2021 at 1:24 PM, kraut1 said:

Hi All,

Hi Vander, thanks for your great mission generator!

I am flying currently a mixed flight simulation offline campaign (results only in a manual table).

After some War Thunder offline (custom) missions in the Ardennes (Map: Operation France 1944) I downloaded Vander's easy Mission Generator and found out, that some of the 1944 - 1945 Rhineland map frontlines could be used for some (few) 1940 Luftwaffe vs RAF missions too.

 

Modified plane set:

-BF109-E7 used as BF109-E3: I switch to manual propeller and water cooler pitch control, without bullet proof wind shield.

This schould be similar to e BF109-E3, disadvantage: in May 1940 no MG-FF/M with mine shells available

This plane I used for my test flight.

-BF110-E used as BF110-C: may be be used with manual propeller / cooler settings

-HE111-H6

-Huricane MKII

-A20: unrealistic, just to have something for allied bomber / attack plane sets

I try to define my missions in a way to avoid contact with A20s

 

Scenarios:

see 2 attached drafts for scenarios

German Luftwaffe missions with my current plane set:

-escort missions with BF109

-attack mission with BF110 (only guns, no bombs), not tested

-bomber mission with HE111, not tested

British RAF missions:

-intercept missions, not tested

 

to be changed / tested later:

BF109 as attack plane (in 1940 only with guns, no bombs)

Hurricane II as attack plane (in 1940 only with guns, no bombs)

 

Tested by me:

1 16th May 40 BF109 escort mission from Gilze Rijn

 

The results of my mixed simulation campaign I write into a log book table.

After some Great Battles EMG by Vander missions I will continue (if I survive) with some CLOD Blitz TheOden Dynamic Mission missions.

 

Best regards

 

PS: I don't know if  there are already much better adaptions for 1940 in use. If yes please inform me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Must have missed this before. If you want, you can create your own map definition for a 1940 battle. I did the same with the "Channel" map, based on Kuban. But you need to have a little knowledge of the Full Mission Builder.

[jeanba]

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-A20: unrealistic, just to have something for allied bomber / attack plane sets

The french used Boston Bombers (A20A) starting from early June.

They were different from the A20B, but we can say the same thing with Hurry II vs Hurry I

Edited January 28, 2022 by jeanba

[kraut1]

6 hours ago, jeanba said:

The french used Boston Bombers (A20A) starting from early June.

They were different from the A20B, but we can say the same thing with Hurry II vs Hurry I

yes, I know that they purchased A20s, but I was not sure if they were used in combat. With a french skin could be interesting.

7 hours ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

Must have missed this before. If you want, you can create your own map definition for a 1940 battle. I did the same with the "Channel" map, based on Kuban. But you need to have a little knowledge of the Full Mission Builder.

The frontlines and airfields are already suitable for ca. 8 days of combat. In respect of the limited no.of plane types thats enough. 

We could add some May 1940 dates and maybe a set of early war vehicles, tanks.

I will think about some changes that can be done with minimum afford. Some I can do by myself and for some I need your support (eg.: loadouts, sets of vehicles,...).

Best regards

Edited January 28, 2022 by kraut1
misspelling corrected

[Mtnbiker1998]

Sounds really fun! Looking forward to this kind of stuff with the Normandy map aswell

[kraut1]

Hi Vander,

thanks for your updated emg with configuration files:

For me it's perfect, I can define all settings as required for me, either by selecting loadouts with emg or by editing the planes.json

 

1.) for BF109, BF110 early 1940 ground attack missions I can select "guns only" (in late 1940 "guns only" not required anymore because bombs were available)

-this works for the "Blue Flight" (Primary), the planes are strafing targets just with their guns.

-a minor disadvantage is that miscallaneous BF109/BF110 still may have bombs. (But it is already possible to solve this issue by editing the planes.json / see below.

 

2.)Hawker Hurricane: here we have the special situation because for 1940 and for ca.1941-1943 we need different gun sets.

1940: 8 7.62mm machine guns (for RAF / western front)

1941 - 1943: 4 20mm cannon (for RAF / western front) (I hope that 1941 is correct, maybe it's 1942)

-by default we have 20mm cannons

-as an interim solution for 1940 missions I edited the planes.json:

"hurricanemkii": {
        "name": "Hurricane Mk.II",
        "loadout": {
            "guns only": [0,1],
            "rockets": [0,1],
            "anti-armor": [0,1],
            "bombs": [0,1],
            "cargo": [0,1]},

(all loadouts edited with 8 machineguns)

 

3.)-New custom map definitions for drafts by other users:

If you could implement 1 or 2 custom map definitions, me or other users could develop and test other map definitions that could be implemented by you later as an official map.

-I think you have just to add some menu points in the .exe file:

-And add 2 map definitions to the map.json

(only a copy of existing map definition, the users may edit according their requirements.)

 

4.) What about different vehicle sets?

e.g. for 1940 we have already some early german tanks, british tanks are apart of a reconnissance armored car not available as far as I know, maybe after release of Normandie.

 

Best regards

     

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2022 by kraut1
General Revision of content

[kraut1]

On 1/28/2022 at 2:50 PM, jeanba said:

The french used Boston Bombers (A20A) starting from early June.

They were different from the A20B, but we can say the same thing with Hurry II vs Hurry I

Just found a great 1940 A20 Skin, we can use it for 1940 Case Yellow Missions:

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/35456-a-20b-skins/?do=findComment&comment=1059722