Game version 4.701 discussion: Next Gen Clouds, DFW C.V, Yak-1b in 4K and other improvements

[Noisemaker]

34 minutes ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Hmmm apparantly the clouds killed the wind because now in campaigns the indicated wind speed is always 0 m/s.

Or you're just lucky...

 

[MajorMagee]

9 hours ago, JG4_Qetzalcoatl said:

 

A teammate has also problems with grid pattern at the edge of the clouds. We both have an AMD graphic card. But I can´t reproduce this effect with my PC. We compared our graphic settings but found no clue... Cloud setting is "extreme".

 

They might have luck with this making the pattern look more random.

 

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

25 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

Or you're just lucky...

 

 

Herrr, highly doubt that. I got ganked by 6x 109's and my flight didnt even jettison bombs to engage, they simply left. I dont call that lucky ;).

 

Besides, I flew Dora above Germany in another career, it felt really windy as always around 2000m yet it was indicated 0 m/s. Its either a bug, or sorcery.

[40plus]

I was just able to give this a go. The clouds look stunning (but I think everyone knew that already)

I was super impressed with the localised rain effects. Just bloody wow.

 

I did notice the gridding on cloud fringes that others have reported but it's a minor thing.

Another thing I noticed is the clouds look really weird when viewed through a mirror. Again, not a deal breaker but it is a tad weird how they look and sort of roll and bulge about when you move your head position. Noticed first in a hurricane over Kuban, clouds at extreme detail. VR (Reverb G2)

 

Hugs to all the devs, testers, producers etc . . . great work.

[7bhp_Mk]

10 hours ago, 7bhp_Mk said:

The new clouds look incredible. Performance also seems very good for me with no noticeable stuttering or loss of fps. But I am unfortunately having issues with whole formations of clouds just appearing and disappearing. It seems to occur every 10km or so and has done so on every sortie I have flown since the new update. Is anybody else experiencing these issues? Amazing update, otherwise...

So, it looks like I am the only one experiencing these issues. I'm honestly very glad everybody else is having a fantastic time with the new update. For me, the game is now borderline unplayable. I own every single module, campaign, and collector vehicle, besides beta releases, and was very much looking forward to the BON expansion. I'm not here to moan about the product. I genuinely love this sim, and I'd just like for this apparent bug to be resolved so I can go back to enjoying my favourite game. All suggestions are welcome! 

[ROTER_BART]

2 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Hmmm apparantly the clouds killed the wind because now in campaigns the indicated wind speed is always 0 m/s.

Same for me.

[catchthefoxes]

On 12/8/2021 at 5:06 PM, Mysticpuma said:

I'm just going to say....WOW!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AMAZING!!! what setting where these clouds on?

[fergal69]

Great work guys - very impressive.

 

Now all I need is time to appreciate them whilst avoiding being shot down!

[Danziger]

I just had a go with a few quick missions. 1st, I really love what you guys are doing with expanding the QMB. I really love the detailed options available for weather and cloud settings. Keep up the good work! 2nd, the new clouds are really great! I am running on a five year old laptop. I was never able to run Rowdyboots could mods but these new clouds are great and still do not bring my laptop to a halt. The people that put this together should be proud.

[PlumCrazy]

15 hours ago, 7bhp_Mk said:

The new clouds look incredible. Performance also seems very good for me with no noticeable stuttering or loss of fps. But I am unfortunately having issues with whole formations of clouds just appearing and disappearing. It seems to occur every 10km or so and has done so on every sortie I have flown since the new update. Is anybody else experiencing these issues? Amazing update, otherwise...

I am experiencing the exact same issue, I'm glad I'm not the only one! I'm not running any sky mods but I still uninstalled all mods and ran it with mods disabled, I've changed graphic settings, rebooted, and everything else I can think of and it's still doing it. You're flying along with 30% cloud cover and it instantly changes to 80%,  then a bit later back to 30% and the cycle repeats. On missions where you can't control the weather it's incredibly frustrating to play as you'll be flying in sunlight and it instantly changes to zero visibility complete gray out and then eventually back to sunlight. I really love the game, but this is creating a serious playability issue unfortunately. I really hope a fix can be found!

[coconut]

Never update the game while mods are installed. If you do that, and then uninstall the mods, there’s a risk your mod manager will revert some game files to the old version before the update.

[Sneaksie]

40 minutes ago, PlumCrazy said:

You're flying along with 30% cloud cover and it instantly changes to 80%,  then a bit later back to 30% and the cycle repeats

SLI?

[Guster]

Maybe it's just me, but it's like fighting the AI has become more challenging. Mind you, I mean this as a very positive thing.

 

It could be the new clouds make orientation more difficult, but I really found myself hard-pressed in the classic 4vs4 QMB situation last night.

 

I spend a couple of hours just doing 4 P-51s vs 4 G-14s at various altitudes and with different weather settings, and overall I think it was a much better single player experience than before. The Mustang feels a bit faster (didn't look at the gauges), everything seems livelier and things happen really fast. I blacked out a lot trying to dodge bandits all the time and often I lost track of the 109s as either I or they passed through the clouds.

 

 

[I./JG1_Baron]

6 hours ago, 7bhp_Mk said:

So, it looks like I am the only one experiencing these issues. I'm honestly very glad everybody else is having a fantastic time with the new update. For me, the game is now borderline unplayable. I own every single module, campaign, and collector vehicle, besides beta releases, and was very much looking forward to the BON expansion. I'm not here to moan about the product. I genuinely love this sim, and I'd just like for this apparent bug to be resolved so I can go back to enjoying my favourite game. All suggestions are welcome! 

 

Try reinstall the entire game.

[7bhp_Mk]

1 hour ago, Sneaksie said:

SLI?

I am having this issue and I am running 2 1080's in SLI. Maybe this is the cause of the bug. Thank you very much for your help!

32 minutes ago, I./JG1_Baron said:

 

Try reinstall the entire game.

Thanks for the suggestion. I appreciate any help on this issue!

[SYN_Mugue]

Nice update! Looks and runs great.(for me)

 

Question about the P-51D: It's blowing a lot of smoke all the time now. It looks like it's running 'too rich' or in 'combat power', when I'm flying at low power and RPM settings. Was that on purpose and something I need to learn to live with? Or perhaps an unintended consequence of the update? I'm just wondering...

 

Again, Thanks for all your hard work.

M.

[JG4_Qetzalcoatl]

Regarding the grid pattern problem at the edge of the clouds my teammate has. He never used any mod. Yesterday we tried every graphic setting possible with no result. We checked the graphic card driver too. The grid pattern always persist. The only thing notable was with a low target fps on it was worse... He is using a 1920x1080 60Hz resolution like his screen. Vsync on or off made no difference except for tearing.

[THERION]

18 minutes ago, JG4_Qetzalcoatl said:

Regarding the grid pattern problem at the edge of the clouds my teammate has. He never used any mod. Yesterday we tried every graphic setting possible with no result. We checked the graphic card driver too. The grid pattern always persist. The only thing notable was with a low target fps on it was worse... He is using a 1920x1080 60Hz resolution like his screen. Vsync on or off made no difference except for tearing.

 

What did he actually change in the Nvidia Control Panel - can you show us the settings he has?

[JG4_Qetzalcoatl]

We are using AMD graphic cards as mentioned before. ? Both with the same driver software settings. I have no graphic problems only my teammate. Some people have the same issue but with nvidia graphic cards.

[THERION]

27 minutes ago, JG4_Qetzalcoatl said:

We are using AMD graphic cards as mentioned before. ? Both with the same driver software settings. I have no graphic problems only my teammate. Some people have the same issue but with nvidia graphic cards.

 

Doh! Stupid me! Sorry mate, didn't want to disturb. Cheerio

[Spaz-505]

First off, a HUGE thank you to the entire development team for their continued hard work!!!  I've said before, it just keeps getting better and better!  I've made a few observations to share with everyone with the latest update.

 

- I'm seeing 10-20% framerate increase depending on the amount of ground objects visible, even at the most cloud coverage my framerate has increased... great work... awesome!!!

- The rain and fog are incredible.. really adds to realism!!!

- I've got one Moscow mission that takes place in winter and I have observed snow... very light but snow nevertheless... and very kool!

- Observed inconsistencies in naming convention of between ME and QMB... ME remains unchanged, QMB now has cloud type labels which makes for easy understanding

- I've researched and reviewed many documents, the naming convention for the clouds in the ME is still confusing to me as to how to deciper it... 02_MEDIUM_08 for example and what the differences you will see in cloud cover as you change that. Sketch published a forum topic with an explanation, video and spreadsheet, still a bit confused as I observe the changes when modifying the settings and viewing it in the ME.  Does the development team have a document that clearly explains this?.. something official?.. always best to get it from the creators

 

A Very Happy & Safe Holiday Season to the entire Development Team!.. and again greatly appreciate all the hard work and time devoted to this great sim!  Merry Christmas everyone!!!

 

And another little poke, would love to see the sim expand east toward Asia and the Pacific!!!

Edited December 10, 2021 by 332FG_Spaz
Forgot to add my "poke" ;)

[Talisman]

Great update.  Many thanks dev's

 

Brilliant work.

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

[Blitzen]

Mentioned earlier about DFW seating which is off to the left .I have the weird effect ,using VR and pilot in cockpit mod on, of apparently sitting on the lap …sort of…of a headless pilot!!! I only flown the plane once but I think I have some problems with th gunner as well. I have not tried it with “Mods off” but it might make a difference- right now it is pretty un-immersive.?

[ITAF_Rani]

Amazing clouds....amazing Devs !!

[Missionbug]

Great work, those clouds certainly are impressive.

 

Thank you very much to all involved, really appreciated.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[Marvel]

Absolutely impressive!! Clouds are fantastics!!! Tanks to all devs involved!!

 

M

[Jeroen83]

Incredible upgrade! Stunning visuals without a performance hit and also in incredibly short development time. VR flight has become even more lifelike.

 

[Luger1969]

Really like the clouds. Very well done chaps.

[=RS=GiantPLANK]

Whoever did the cloud improvements deserves a raise. great work.

[MajorMagee]

On 12/9/2021 at 5:47 AM, MajorMagee said:

I'm seeing a lot of color banding in some of the cloud types during early morning lighting conditions. Is there some setting I'm missing?

After trying out all the various in game graphics settings, I finally resorted to using the Reshade Deband shader, and it smoothed it out pretty effectively.

[Voidhunger]

Can we please finaly have after those years improvements to the career mode, like log book with type of enemies destroyed and in what type of plane victory was achieved?

I dont know why it was simplified. ROF has it!

It soo arcadish. I dont need names, just type of your and enemy plane. PLEASE! Thank you.

[357th_Esco]

8 hours ago, Sneaksie said:

SLI?

Yes this is happening to me. I am running SLI. Two 1079s.

[-Ger-oldsql]

Thank you for the great update of the best simulation out there!!! ?

 

Ps: Can someone tell me if and how I can save my old replays?

[FlyingNutcase]

Really great work with the clouds - it creates a whole new world up there. As promised I now have a shiny gold BoN bar.  

[ShamrockOneFive]

1 hour ago, -Ger-oldsql said:

Ps: Can someone tell me if and how I can save my old replays?

 

Track files? They tend not to do very well between version updates especially when there are some core changes (like clouds).

 

Sometimes they still work but frequently they are done for.

[PlumCrazy]

11 hours ago, Sneaksie said:

SLI?

Yes, two GTX 980s in SLI. It looks like the 3 of us that are having the disappearing/reappearing cloud formation issue are all running two Nvidia GTX cards in SLI. Is there something we can do on the user end to fix this, or is this something that will need an update patch to fix?

[dannytherat]

19 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Hmmm apparantly the clouds killed the wind because now in campaigns the indicated wind speed is always 0 m/s.

Same for me ?

 

Love the update otherwise!

[PlumCrazy]

12 hours ago, coconut said:

Never update the game while mods are installed. If you do that, and then uninstall the mods, there’s a risk your mod manager will revert some game files to the old version before the update.

I may not have worded it clearly in my post, but I uninstalled all mods, updated the game and then reinstalled the mods. When I started playing and noticed the issue, I uninstalled the mods and selected the disabled mods setting as I know they can sometime cause issues. I'm running a historic skins, colorful tracer, and MK103 damage mods, none of those should impact the landscape, but I wanted to verify they weren't the issue. I may do a clean install, just to verify that somehow a mod didn't uninstall properly before I updated. Thanks for the advice!

[RNAS10_Oliver]

2 hours ago, -Ger-oldsql said:

Thank you for the great update of the best simulation out there!!! ?

 

Ps: Can someone tell me if and how I can save my old replays?

 

22 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

Track files? They tend not to do very well between version updates especially when there are some core changes (like clouds).

 

Sometimes they still work but frequently they are done for.

Just need to read the update announcement that this thread is about. ?

 

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The mission format was changed, so third-party missions and campaigns need to be re-saved using Mission Editor or Mission Re-saver utility. Old track records can be played by deleting the .msnbin file from their folder. We have taken great care in mimicking the current cloud selection options for mission builders, so all your older missions are technically compatible with the new clouds. However, the clouds will look quite different and you may need to adjust your mission design to get the desired result.

 

 

[Spaz-505]

I thought I would share this screenshot as I'm starting to understand the cloud configuration in the mission editor... this is way too kool not to share Thanks again to the entire IL-2 Development Team.... your work is awesome!!!