quick ranging methods for German Tankers

[ShampooX]

I know there have been some recent posts about this question.  Heinz Bar has posted some really good data and I discussed in another thread how we would quickly determine range against human targets in the Army using features such as the ability to see hands, heads and light between legs, etc - all for different ranges.  I did a little work using Thads new and improved Gunnery Practice Mission and, in the same vein as my other post,  here's some quick dope on the German Zeiss 9B or similar "triangle" styler reticle.  At full scope zoom:

 

T-34 profile takes up ^^?^^ tip to tip: 500 meters

T-34 profile takes up ^?^ tip to tip: 1000 meters

T-34 profile takes up outer edges of Triangle (just outside the base corners) tip to tip: 1250 meters

T-34 profile takes up inner edges of Triangle base corners:  1650 meters

T-34 profile fits inside Triangle base with a little gap to the corners: 2500 meters

 

FLAK base, takes up base of Triangle to inner corners: 1900 meters - anything closer and you're probably already dead.

 

 Should translate well to Finnish.  I hope it helps.... especially if you are unlucky enough not to get off the first shot.

 

Big thanks to Thad.

Edited November 30, 2021 by JohnRitterKreuz

[JV44HeinzBar]

S!,

Remember, most of the ranges are set when the target is perpendicular (showing 90'deg side). I'm assuming that the t34 is perpendicular to the triangle? If the tank is facing your triangle, then you have to adjust the range. IIRC, the t34 is 3m wide from the front. Adjust your sights accordingly. The secret in IL2 is to know the dimensions of your target @1km. Of course, from what I've seen online, wind direction will also come into play. I rarely hit on the first round when aiming past 1000m....but then again I suck when it comes to adjusting the gun to the proper range.

 

HB

[NoelGallagher]

3 hours ago, JV44HeinzBar said:

S!,

Remember, most of the ranges are set when the target is perpendicular (showing 90'deg side). I'm assuming that the t34 is perpendicular to the triangle? If the tank is facing your triangle, then you have to adjust the range. IIRC, the t34 is 3m wide from the front. Adjust your sights accordingly. The secret in IL2 is to know the dimensions of your target @1km. Of course, from what I've seen online, wind direction will also come into play. I rarely hit on the first round when aiming past 1000m....but then again I suck when it comes to adjusting the gun to the proper range.

 

HB

becasue of this reason i don't use range chart 

i do something similar what shampoo does 

i bet many other veteran tank players do as same

there's no time for one's to caculate in most of the combat situation 

unless the enemy don't know your position and it's static

Edited November 30, 2021 by NoelGallagher

[ACG_Jackman]

I never use the range adjustments. I think after a bit of time you can pretty much judge the distance and be very accurate at it. At very long range targets It's one or two shots to find the mark, at medium it usually 9 out 10 time I hit the target first time. Close range no issues. 

It's just down to experience. 

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by ACG_Jackman

[No_Face]

I'm not very good at estimating distance. It's mostly due to the fact that I only play TC periodically (e.g. I play it often for 2 weeks and then put it aside for 2-3 months before coming back to it and so on).
As a result, I lose my experience.

 

On the other hand, instead of basing it on the length of the tank which requires it to be perpendicular, we can base it on its height. This is what I do to destroy the flack guns for example. A man is about 1.80m tall. If he fits in a small triangle, it means that he is about 1 000m. This gives you a good first shot on which to base your correction if necessary.