Masters of the Air Mini Series(Apple TV)

[JG4_Sputnik]

Steven Spielberg plans on producing a new Series based on the Book "Masters of The Air" by Donald L. Miller.

I'm very excited about this even though as an European I don't like the patriotish smothered American WW2 movies very much in general. Still it could be well produced and draw some new people into the genre which is always a good thing for us niche gamers

 

http://collider.com/tom-hanks-steven-spielberg-masters-of-the-air/

 

Cheers

[79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer]

Sounds a bit like the old Memphis Belle. Looking forward to this one!

[NZTyphoon]

Thanks for the heads-up on this: hopefully it'll be more like Band of Brothers than Pacific, which was a little too disjointed and bitsa.

[DBFlyguy]

After years...and years...and years hearing about his project, Masters of the Air has finally begun shooting in the UK!  For those living under a rock ? "Masters of the Air" is the third Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks produced WWII mini-series. This one will cover the 100th Bomb Group.  I can not wait to see this!

 

 

https://collider.com/masters-of-the-air-filming-cary-fukunaga-apple-tv-plus/

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9516351/Steven-Spielberg-builds-5M-World-War-II-Airforce-base-Berkshire-Masters-Air.html

 

 

[Gambit21]

I hope CG is used sparingly and responsibly. (to clone aircraft for instance)

 

I see those P-47’s peel off over Bastogne/Foy in Band of Brothers and it bugs me every time.

 

Unbroken is the gold standard - as short as the aircraft sequence is.

Edited April 29, 2021 by Gambit21

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

FINALLY!!!

I 've been waiting for this new miniseries a loooong time .... 

 

I do not dare to ask how long could it take from now on ...?

Edited April 29, 2021 by =gRiJ=Roman-

[sevenless]

15 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

After years...and years...and years hearing about his project, Masters of the Air has finally begun shooting in the UK!  For those living under a rock ? "Masters of the Air" is the third Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks produced WWII mini-series. This one will cover the 100th Bomb Group.  I can not wait to see this!

 

 

https://collider.com/masters-of-the-air-filming-cary-fukunaga-apple-tv-plus/

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9516351/Steven-Spielberg-builds-5M-World-War-II-Airforce-base-Berkshire-Masters-Air.html

 

 

 

That is excellent news! Hope it doesn´t turn out to be some kind of Red Tails 2.0

 

1 hour ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

I do not dare to ask how long could it take from now on ...?

 

Finish shooting 2021 and at least whole 2022 in post production. That is what my crystal ball tells me...

Edited April 29, 2021 by sevenless

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Unbroken is the gold standard - as short as the aircraft sequence is.

 

My wife and I saw that sequence in a movie theater and yes, it's a 10/10 all the way around - especially the sound of the .50 cal MGs.

 

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by LukeFF

[DBFlyguy]

6 hours ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

FINALLY!!!

I 've been waiting for this new miniseries a loooong time .... 

 

I do not dare to ask how long could it take from now on ...?

 

It usually takes a couple months to shoot a film, then post production, I'm guessing we'll see it around spring/summer of 2022, fingers crossed.

 

On a somewhat related topic (historical aviation film), "Devotion" just wrapped filming this month.  Its based on the book "Devotion" which is about Tom Hudner and Jesse Brown (the first black USN naval aviator) during the Korean War.  I've been following the filming of this one really.  The director of the film is a huge aviation nerd and his dad was a USN Blue Angel plus they used REAL F4U Corsairs and F8F Bearcats for the movies.  Hopefully it's a good one, it should also come out next year

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[kestrel79]

Sweet! Good to see some new WW2 movies in the works, let alone WW2 aviation movies. 

[Angry_Kitten]

Have little hope on the hanks miniseries. 

 

The others well, lets hope politics gets left aside and history is followed. 

 

Remember the things in redtails that never happened in real life

[Cybermat47]

1 hour ago, pocketshaver said:

Have little hope on the hanks miniseries. 

 

The others well, lets hope politics gets left aside and history is followed.

What political messages were there in Band of Brothers and The Pacific?

 

I mean, I guess BoB had a message of ‘Nazism is bad’? But that’s just something that everyone will think after seeing a historically accurate depiction of a concentration camp.

[Diggun]

1 hour ago, Cybermat47 said:

mean, I guess BoB had a message of ‘Nazism is bad’?

 

 

?

[Feathered_IV]

After seeing Hanks’ Greyhound film, I just hope that Germany’s answer to Wolfman Jack doesn’t keep calling up the B-17s to leave lewd messages on their answering machines.  
 

“Hallo Masters off zee Air...  Vee are comming for you...   Aawooooo!!!!!”
 

 

[DBFlyguy]

3 hours ago, Diggun said:

 

 

?

Tom Hardy thought they were so bad (except for that one blonde fraulein) he decided to fight them on the ground and air ?

 

 

 

[Diggun]

Just now, DBFlyguy said:

Tom Hardy

He also clearly had some magic ammo storage in that spitfire. Good trick that.

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, pocketshaver said:

Have little hope on the hanks miniseries. 

 

The others well, lets hope politics gets left aside and history is followed. 

 

 

Dafug are you on about?

[DD_fruitbat]

2 hours ago, Diggun said:

He also clearly had some magic ammo storage in that spitfire. Good trick that.

 

I was more impressed by the magnificent gliding ability it had when the fan at the front had stopped cooling him down.....

[von_Tom]

On 5/13/2021 at 3:46 PM, DD_fruitbat said:

I was more impressed by the magnificent gliding ability it had when the fan at the front had stopped cooling him down.....

 

This is a regular theme in our squad fun once someone has lost their engine.

 

Good of him to glide until the beach was completely empty (or faaaaaaar away from the soldiers) and to hang around watching the burning Spit.

 

Dunkirk was so much less the sum of its parts, and some of those parts were rubbish.   Rounds passing through water then piercing sheet metal anyone?

 

I watched that Unbroken segment and wasn't impressed - all very clean and no wind at all coming through the holes or open bomb-bay doors.

 

von Tom

[Diggun]

15 minutes ago, von_Tom said:

Dunkirk was so much less the sum of its parts, and some of those parts were rubbish

Agreed. If you're going to rely on model work, at least make sure your model HE111 looks remotely the right scale; and produces a little more than a disappointing 'plop' when you crash it in the sea! And the music was such utter cringe.

 

15 minutes ago, von_Tom said:

I watched that Unbroken segment and wasn't impressed - all very clean and no wind at all coming through the holes or open bomb-bay doors.

Also agreed. I wasn't aware of the movie before, watched that clip, and thought it all looked pretty obviously CGI. IMHO The Battle Of Britain is still the gold standard; especially when reworked with more modern techniques - like the excellent Czech movie 'Dark Blue World' - adding little touches here and there to the footage makes all the difference...

 

 

Imho a big mistake that movie makers make when using CGI is to put the camera in places it couldn't possibly have been; so you have the (peerless) launch sequence of Apollo 13 completely ruined by a n overhead shot of the Saturn V blasting past apparently inches from the camera - any helicopter crew filming there would have instantly been atomised, your brain knows this and it ruins the suspension of disbelief.

Edited May 14, 2021 by Diggun

[DetCord12B]

Apple TV+?

 

Nope.

 

[DBFlyguy]

We are a tough bunch when it comes to movies ?

 

I didn't mind the Dunkirk aerial sequences, they were by far the best part of that film and I like in the lengths Nolan went to, to shoot the footage.  He set the new standard for aerial combat sequences in movies as far as I'm concerned.  Battle of Britain still hasn't been surpassed for sheer scale of the sequences but unfortunately, we'll probably never see that amount of real aircraft on screen again.  I think most of those spitfires ended up in some old curmudgeons barn rotting away in here in the states ?

 

Dark Blue World did a nice job with original footage combined with Battle of Britain clips.  It is/was the most expensive Czech movie ever made.  I'm holding out hope both "Devotion" and "Masters of the Air" will both be good and include some awesome flying sequences next year!

 

[Diggun]

1 minute ago, DetCord12B said:

Apple TV+?

 

Nope.

For All Mankind is v good. I don't have apple tv+ though. must have *somehow* found it online somewhere...

[DBFlyguy]

5 minutes ago, DetCord12B said:

Apple TV+?

 

Nope.

 

I HATE apple products but I signed up for Apple TV+ for "Greyhound" and ended up falling in love with "For All Mankind", it's probably one of the best alt-history shows I've seen.  Definitely recommend it!

Edited May 14, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[DetCord12B]

12 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

I HATE apple products but I signed up for Apple TV+ for "Greyhound" and ended up falling in love with "For All Mankind", it's probably one of the best alt-history shows I've seen.  Definitely recommend it!

 

Already have Netflix, HBO Max, and Amazon Prime. I don't need another streaming service.

 

I know the series was having some funding issues but did hear that Apple is using the same slave labor from their plants in China to build the sets, so maybe they'll save some money during production. ?

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

We are a tough bunch when it comes to movies ?

 

That's for sure. Granted, some stuff out there is crap (Red Tails, Flyboys, Pearl Harbor), but others I think are quite good and stand the test of time (besides the ones already mentioned, Band of Brothers has some really good C-47 scenes). 

 

 

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by LukeFF

[Rjel]

5 hours ago, Diggun said:

Imho a big mistake that movie makers make when using CGI is to put the camera in places it couldn't possibly have been; so you have the (peerless) launch sequence of Apollo 13 completely ruined by a n overhead shot of the Saturn V blasting past apparently inches from the camera - any helicopter crew filming there would have instantly been atomised, your brain knows this and it ruins the suspension of disbelief.

How exactly can that be considered an issue? Camera placement would seem to me to be movie making 101. If Apollo 13 were made to represent being seen through the eyes of an observer on the ground, miles away from the launch pad with a Super 8 home movie camera, then I could see your point. I think the camera placement during the launch was meant to convey the power and drama of the event. It was highly successful in that regard.

[LukeFF]

6 hours ago, von_Tom said:

I watched that Unbroken segment and wasn't impressed - all very clean and no wind at all coming through the holes or open bomb-bay doors.

 

What? There is certainly wind noise coming through in those scenes.

[cardboard_killer]

It's no Heavy Metal

 

 

[Rjel]

2 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

It's no Heavy Metal

 

 

Even with the almost primitive animation, I’ve always enjoyed that movie. The title track is still great and any film with John Candy in it is worth watching. 

[Bremspropeller]

On 5/14/2021 at 4:53 PM, von_Tom said:

Rounds passing through water then piercing sheet metal anyone?

 

Must have been a cal 50.

 

On 5/14/2021 at 5:20 PM, DetCord12B said:

Apple TV+?

 

Nope.

 

Does it require a new charger every other season?

 

 

 

 

 

 

You may want to check this thread on some photos made during production.

 

https://www.vintageleatherjackets.org/threads/masters-of-air-shoots-this-spring-for-apple-tv.25234/page-5

Edited May 18, 2021 by Bremspropeller

[Dennis_Nedry]

Not sure how many people are aware of the book but Hanks, Spielberg, and crew are working on a mini series about a B-17 crew/8th Air Force based on Donald Millers Masters of the Air.

 

https://amblin.com/tv/masters-of-the-air/

 

I read the book a few years ago and its really good! Really looking forward to this one.

 

I wonder if Jason knows about this? Even if B-17s are not practical for this sim I'm sure this show will generate some interest in WW2 aviation.

[Voidhunger]

4 minutes ago, Dennis_Nedry said:

Not sure how many people are aware of the book but Hanks, Spielberg, and crew are working on a mini series about a B-17 crew/8th Air Force based on Donald Millers Masters of the Air.

 

https://amblin.com/tv/masters-of-the-air/

 

I read the book a few years ago and its really good! Really looking forward to this one.

 

I wonder if Jason knows about this? Even if B-17s are not practical for this sim I'm sure this show will generate some interest in WW2 aviation.

Yeah it was announced many years ago and still nothing.

but im quite sure it will be tragic.

Edited November 10, 2021 by Voidhunger

[Dennis_Nedry]

30 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

Yeah it was announced many years ago and still nothing.

but im quite sure it will be tragic.

Its in production now

[Diggun]

Band Of Brothers is a modern classic, The Pacific was a mess. This one, I'm not holding out high hopes for.

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Been waiting for a loooong time ... 

[VBF-12_Stele]

The first announcement of this miniseries was almost 10 years ago. That means most of the actors they cast for this miniseries were barely teenagers or kids when they announced it. Just hope it doesn't implode from all of the hype and expectations.

[DBFlyguy]

I've been following updates via a few outlets and production has evidently been very slow due to a couple covid shutdowns, hopefully it eventually releases sometime next year.... time will tell.  From what I've seen, there aren't any actual B-17s or any other flying warbirds in the production, all CGI and props.... hopefully that ends up being not the case though.

 

Photos of prop B-17s made for the show:

 

http://warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Masters-of-the-Air_B-17-Flying-Fortress_2.jpg

 

 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[ShamrockOneFive]

That's quite the prop!

 

I was excited for this and now I'm withholding my excitement until something actually comes of it. Obviously they are working on it and jumping through all of the hoops that a production like this entails. It's been many years since I first heard of it so... when they have a trailer and a release date. Then I'll be excited!

[Feathered_IV]

I’m hoping the CGI “artists” don’t use Star Wars as a primary source.