Take off issues with the 190 A6

[453=SGII_Wotan]

when taking off in the 190A6 model just as I leave the ground my right wing drops badly probably due to motor torque and I spin into the ground.

Are there any tutorials regarding the A6? so far I can only find the A3/5/8 and Dora (which is an inline as opposed to the radials)

 

Thanks in advance

Wotan

 

 

[LukeFF]

Any tutorials for the A series will work for the A-6 - they all use the same engine and the same basic airframe. ?

[oc2209]

2 hours ago, IISG2_Wotan said:

when taking off in the 190A6 model just as I leave the ground my right wing drops badly probably due to motor torque and I spin into the ground.

Are there any tutorials regarding the A6? so far I can only find the A3/5/8 and Dora (which is an inline as opposed to the radials)

 

Thanks in advance

Wotan

 

 

 

I tried to recreate this by taking off under ~80% throttle, and then at the moment of liftoff I maxed my throttle. I didn't notice any torque effect strong enough to do what you're describing.

 

So I'm inclined to think it's nothing to do with torque.

 

At face value, it sounds more like you're simply stalling. Which means you're either not getting enough speed before you liftoff, or you're pulling the stick back too far when you do liftoff.

 

Here's an example of a takeoff I just recorded:

 

Spoiler

 

 

I start out at approximately 1/3 throttle. I get my speed up enough (about 40 MPH--I don't think in metric units unless I have to), at which point I release the back pressure on the stick and the tail wheel unlocks. Then I push the throttle to 1/2. Shortly after, I open up the throttle to full.

 

I'm not claiming it's good takeoff procedure--just that there's no noticeable torque doing what I described.

[453=SGII_Wotan]

Thanks Luke and a big thanks oc2209 for making the video, I noticed the right wing drop as u got airborne, that's where I lose plan control and roll into the runway  

Edited November 9, 2021 by IISG2_Wotan

[453=SGII_Wotan]

worked it out had to invert the ailerons

[migmadmarine]

oh that'll do it

[oc2209]

2 hours ago, IISG2_Wotan said:

worked it out had to invert the ailerons

 

My other suggestion was going to be 'check your control setup' when all else fails. Glad you got it working!

[LLv24_SukkaVR]

9 hours ago, oc2209 said:

 

My other suggestion was going to be 'check your control setup' when all else fails. Glad you got it working!

 

I wish GUI was better so it would be easier to set up controls. I've been playing this game for like 7 or 8 years but every time i have to remap my controls i'm pulling my hair out. You just need to map everything and the test in-game what you need to invert/change. In DCS for example, it's super fast and easy to map everything correctly without having to test them afterwards, and if you haven't played for a while and you can't remember your controls you can push your buttons in controls menu and you'll see what each button does. So handy, i wish IL-2's GUI was similar.

[SYN_Vander]

19 minutes ago, LLv24_SukkaVR said:

In DCS for example, it's super fast and easy to map everything correctly without having to test them afterwards...

 

You must have a different DCS than I have!  I agree it's good that you can press a button and it will highlight in the config, but other than that: having to map all controls FOR EVERY plane and let's not forget in aircraft A it's called "landing gear", in aircraft B it's "undercarriage" and anyway it will be different from the label inside the cockpit or the popup message with the mouse... Drives me mad!

[PatrickAWlson]

If you pull a 190 off the ground at < 200KPH I have found that the wing will dip.  I have never crashed because of it but it does happen.  

Pull stick back to lock the tailwheel.

Throttle up slowly to avoid sudden torque.  Keep the stick puled back.

At about 100 KPH push forward to bring the tail up.

Stay the course until 200 KPH and then rotate.

[=FEW=fernando11]

1 hour ago, PatrickAWlson said:

If you pull a 190 off the ground at < 200KPH I have found that the wing will dip.  I have never crashed because of it but it does happen.  

Pull stick back to lock the tailwheel.

Throttle up slowly to avoid sudden torque.  Keep the stick puled back.

At about 100 KPH push forward to bring the tail up.

Stay the course until 200 KPH and then rotate.

EXACTLY THIS.

 

From memory. Pull hard on the stick to lock the tailweel.

At 100-110km/start to relax to neutral stick position at about 120-130km/h. All the while doing the usual footwork to keep the plane in a straight line.

At or arround 200km/h rotate.

 

Taking off in any fw190 is rather simple once you understand how to work the tail weel lock (pulling on the stick locks the tail wheel and helps you to go straight becuse you are pushing the tail down and givin it more autority).

But overdoing it, way over the speed will give you trubles, because you will "force" the plane to lift off the ground, exeed AoA and stall one wing...

So keep an eye on your speed, and turn & banck indicator until the magic 100km/h, relax pull on stick and keep looking until 200km/h and then let the plane fly off the ground.

[AtomicP]

I crashed a lot of 190s at first and mostly this was because I forgot to lock the tail wheel. Generally though, you don't want to over control an aircraft taking off until you have enough air speed, especially with the high performance aircraft like the 190 that like to go fast.

[RossMarBow]

Trim the horizontal stab nose heavy

On 11/9/2021 at 2:35 PM, IISG2_Wotan said:

when taking off in the 190A6 model just as I leave the ground my right wing drops badly probably due to motor torque and I spin into the ground.

Are there any tutorials regarding the A6? so far I can only find the A3/5/8 and Dora (which is an inline as opposed to the radials)

 

Thanks in advance

Wotan

 

 

Use horizontal stab trim to take off instead of stick movement

Either trim nose heavy so you can hold wheel lock

Or trim for lift so you don't have to touch stick

Edited November 12, 2021 by brahguevara