Developer Diary 298 - Discussion

[fubar_2_niner]

51 minutes ago, Lythronax said:

 

Full view - unmistakable.

My bad, got the designation wrong way round lol, read it as He 129, geez I'm tired  Thanks for the pictures .

[migmadmarine]

Just note guys the forum rules do require the full swastika to be behind a spoiler tab, these are good photos but don't want to cause trouble with the admin. 

[kissTheSky]

1 hour ago, fubar_2_niner said:

Is that a He177 to the left?

 

Yup. It is the He219 to the screen left. To the screen right there’s the Pfeil. 

[Docjonel]

Wow, started out the war with Fairey Swordfish biplane torpedo bombers and ended it with this sleek jet bomber. 

 

I'm gonna see if I can take out the bridge at Remagen with her without using any aids. 

[Diggun]

1 minute ago, Docjonel said:

Wow, started out the war with Fairey Swordfish biplane torpedo bombers

Oi! The String bag did good work right through till '43, thank you! 

 

There is no way the Blitz could do what the Swordfish did. And vice versa. 

[Lofte]

There was no Ar-234 neither with CS+F1 nor with F1+CS board number.

What does it mean?)

[LukeFF]

14 minutes ago, Lofte said:

There was no Ar-234 neither with CS+F1 nor with F1+CS board number.

What does it mean?)

 

Probably just testing the tactical codes that are being added to every plane.

[VilsonFarias]

9 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

To be honest, I'm not a big fan of late-war German jets like some folks are, but seeing the 234 at all these cool angles may have made me a fan. It's much larger and sleek than I thought it was in my head. Phil has done a great job on the external model.

 

Jason

 

 Sorry, I am ?

 

It seems we are almost there though ?

[Jade_Monkey]

Which airfields in the upcoming BON map did the Arado operate from? 

I know the map is not final, but we have a decent idea:

 

[danielprates]

4 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

 

 

And yes, she is dwarfed by the massive Do-335:

 

 

 

 

Wow! Seeing them side by side is nothing like I would have expected as far as the poportion goes.

[sevenless]

38 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Which airfields in the upcoming BON map did the Arado operate from? 

I know the map is not final, but we have a decent idea:

 

 

Juvincourt, north of Reims. Not on that map sketch.

 

 

Edited November 6, 2021 by sevenless

[Vig]

Meh.  Wunderwaffen.

[Winkysmith]

I should probably start a new post for this, but has the P-51B/C been put back? I was scrolling through the dev diaries today, and the last mention of the release date put it at about the ending of last month.

[Asgar]

21 minutes ago, Winkysmith said:

I should probably start a new post for this, but has the P-51B/C been put back? I was scrolling through the dev diaries today, and the last mention of the release date put it at about the ending of last month.

all dates are estimates, we just got an update with the Breguet, making updates takes time, testing them too. 

P-51 will be released when it's ready, looking at how good the 234 is looking, maybe the two of them will release together

[senseispcc]

A lot of work is still to be done but it shall be done and it as always be done, thanks to the team how does the work !

 

[No_Face]

When I see the pictures taken in museums, I realize that I was not conscious of the dimensions of some planes.

[Luftschiff]

The Pfeil is a Very Chunky Boi..

[CountZero]

3 hours ago, Asgar said:

all dates are estimates, we just got an update with the Breguet, making updates takes time, testing them too. 

P-51 will be released when it's ready, looking at how good the 234 is looking, maybe the two of them will release together

last thing they posted about when airplanes are planed to be finished is 234 before next summer, 51C this month

 

[Rodwonder]

16 hours ago, fubar_2_niner said:

My bad, got the designation wrong way round lol, read it as He 129, geez I'm tired  Thanks for the pictures .

 

Wow... The last time I saw this plane it was still in pieces on the floor two years ago. We are planning to stop by soon, nice! 

[blitze]

Whilst I appreciate the work - she's a beauty, how is the Mozzie and P51b coming along? ?

 

Oh- silly me forgot to mention the B25 (cough) and A-26 (corona cough, I must take it easy drinking that beer).

[LukeFF]

16 hours ago, Lofte said:

There was no Ar-234 neither with CS+F1 nor with F1+CS board number.

What does it mean?)

 

16 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Probably just testing the tactical codes that are being added to every plane.

 

Ok, found it: http://www.printscale.org/product_827.html

 

Ar.234B-2. Unit: 8./KG 76. Serial: F1+CS (W.Nr.140325). Burg, December 1944. All upper surfaces in splinter pattern RLM 70/71. Schwarzgrun and Dunkelgrun with RLM 65 Heliblau undersides.

[Avimimus]

14 hours ago, danielprates said:

Wow! Seeing them side by side is nothing like I would have expected as far as the poportion goes.

 

Yeah - the Do-335 was huge! It was also developed partly as a schnellbomber, complete with an internal bomb bay (which makes it a competitor to the Arado Ar-234 in some ways). It is a very interesting airplane.

 

It'd be pretty cool to have a He-162 for scale (as a comparison).

[CUJO_1970]

14 hours ago, danielprates said:

 

Wow! Seeing them side by side is nothing like I would have expected as far as the poportion goes.

 

It's hard to describe how big the Do-335 is without seeing it in person. I'm over six feet tall and it looked like I could walk right under it.

That thing was a beast.

[69th_chuter]

Probably the only problem I have with the Smithsonian aircraft is that quite often the landing gear is fitted with spacers that leave the gear struts fully extended and when coupled with the suspension stands necessary to keep the original tires off the ground the aircraft's "presence" is very different than one would experience from an operational aircraft.  For instance, while the 335 IS a large aircraft, the way it's presented shows the aircraft noticeably taller with the additional height biased towards the tail. 

 

I admit I have issues.

 

Edit:  I really wish they could fit a better tail spinner to the 335. 

Edited November 6, 2021 by chuter
added statement

[Lofte]

2 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Ok, found it: http://www.printscale.org/product_827.html

 

Ar.234B-2. Unit: 8./KG 76. Serial: F1+CS (W.Nr.140325). Burg, December 1944. All upper surfaces in splinter pattern RLM 70/71. Schwarzgrun and Dunkelgrun with RLM 65 Heliblau undersides.

Yeah, thanks

Just didn't find it here:

 

 

Edited November 6, 2021 by Lofte

[chris455]

I am definitely going to be doing a lot of flying over that map. I didn't realize so much of the UK would be represented......................

[=310th=_Dudley_Hill]

On 11/5/2021 at 10:12 AM, sevenless said:

Magirus Bombe! Love it!

 

 

 

The Ar 234B variant with twin 20mm cannons shown DID exist, but never flew in combat.  It was planned for future A/C to have this load out. but none were produce in time to be used and in combat.

 

"Two of these jerry-rigged night fighters served with Kommando Bonow, an experimental test unit attached to Luftflotte-Reich. Operations commenced with the pair of 234Bs in March 1945, but Bonow's team soon found the aircraft to be unsuited for night fighting and no kills were recorded during the unit's very brief life."

 

SO, STOP playing the "What if" scenario.  If you want people to believe in your product, keep to the history your trying to portray.

[Jason_Williams]

28 minutes ago, US28_Hill said:

 

The Ar 234B variant with twin 20mm cannons shown DID exist, but never flew in combat.  It was planned for future A/C to have this load out. but none were produce in time to be used and in combat.

 

"Two of these jerry-rigged night fighters served with Kommando Bonow, an experimental test unit attached to Luftflotte-Reich. Operations commenced with the pair of 234Bs in March 1945, but Bonow's team soon found the aircraft to be unsuited for night fighting and no kills were recorded during the unit's very brief life."

 

SO, STOP playing the "What if" scenario.  If you want people to believe in your product, keep to the history your trying to portray.

Completely optional weapon. No one is forcing you to use it or servers to offer it. 
 

Jason

[Livai]

I am sure that my eagle eyes will find something again, how about this

• some details look flat compared to the original
• some details are missing or look different
• colors look flat compared to the original

 

The B-2 in the museum look different compared to the from Revell Model kit and ingame model, is this a different B-2?

 

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by Livai

[A-E-Hartmann]

Really splendid, I can't wait to pilot your beautiful bird .?

[Chief_Mouser]

2 hours ago, Livai said:

I am sure that my eagle eyes will find something again, how about this

• some details look flat compared to the original
• some details are missing or look different
• colors look flat compared to the original

 

The B-2 in the museum look different compared to the from Revell Model kit and ingame model, is this a different B-2?

 

 

 

What on earth? It's not even appeared in the Alpha yet. And I do really, really, hope that they haven't wasted their time by using a plastic model for their ultimate reference guide. ?

[spudkopf]

The Ar 234 is looking great, I've always been a big fan of this bird, so ever so slowly the plane set from IL-46 creeps into GB, just kidding

 

Now it is not my intention to stir the pot any further here, however in regards to the gun pod, as these pods were indeed employed on the Kommando Bonow aircraft, then if only by a somewhat loose definition, this means they were actually used operationally (flown in combat), regardless of how successful or otherwise these operations were. Not withstanding this was in March of 1945, so records of that time are for various reasons (some intentional) somewhat incomplete. As good as Wiki is, it is not always the most definitive source on such things.

 

On a brighter note, by using a similar logic we could perhaps one day even see the Ta 152, He 162 and maybe even the Do 335 gracing the GB heavens. However, reluctantly I have to admit that such desires should rightfully take a back seat until other much requested missing historical content comes to fruition.  

 

Ultimately as Jason pointed out, ordnance availability online (not to mention aircraft availability and other options) are all at the determination of the server providers. If needs be then perhaps maybe some limits can also be applied (if they are not already) where historical in-game campaigns and careers are concerned.

 

 

Edited November 11, 2021 by spudkopf
grammar and dyslectic name spelling

[76IAP-Black]

15 hours ago, Livai said:

I am sure that my eagle eyes will find something again, how about this

• some details look flat compared to the original
• some details are missing or look different
• colors look flat compared to the original

 

The B-2 in the museum look different compared to the from Revell Model kit and ingame model, is this a different B-2?

 

 

Wait for the final product

Btw, have you looked at a black mat car parking in the sun? It is never black 

[Avimimus]

On 11/5/2021 at 6:57 PM, Diggun said:

There is no way the Blitz could do what the Swordfish did. And vice versa. 

 

True enough

[Freycinet]

On 11/5/2021 at 5:09 PM, kissTheSky said:

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, and while I am extremely grateful that I was as close as anyone can get to the last surviving sample, I wish it was in a museum at its native land. 

 

To the victors go the spoils...

 

BTW, if you haven't done it, you all should go and read Jasons posting from yesterday:

Jason, it was great to hear about the B-25 and thank you for your personal story about your dad working on the B-52. Salute and my thanks for his service in Vietnam! - It must have been a great loss for you in 1992.

 

I was wondering, when you crawl around inside planes, do you use 3D scanning apps? Some of them give tremendously accurate results. I was thinking it could perhaps help the modellers...

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by Freycinet

[Jade_Monkey]

On 11/7/2021 at 9:45 PM, spudkopf said:

Ultimately as Janson pointed out, ordnance availability online

 

5 hours ago, Freycinet said:

BTW, if you haven't done it, you all should go and read Jasons posting from yesterday:

 

 

What is going on? ?

 

I feel like the moderators are pranking Jason by putting an autocorrect function on the forum that switches his name Janson 

[Soilworker]

7 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

 

 

 

What is going on? ?

 

I feel like the moderators are pranking Jason by putting an autocorrect function on the forum that switches his name Janson 

 

I think you might have just misread the second one from Freycinet there, buddy (he just missed the apostrophe is all). ?

[Jade_Monkey]

5 hours ago, Soilworker said:

 

I think you might have just misread the second one from Freycinet there, buddy (he just missed the apostrophe is all). ?

You are right, my bad.

 

The baby waking up at 5AM might be affecting me more than i thought ?

[Soilworker]

1 hour ago, Jade_Monkey said:

You are right, my bad.

 

The baby waking up at 5AM might be affecting me more than i thought ?

 

Dude it happens. Hell it happens to me after a good night's sleep. ?

[Livai]

Ready or not ready, good Question when landing the Ar 234?

 

 

On 11/8/2021 at 10:23 AM, 76IAP-Black said:

Btw, have you looked at a black mat car parking in the sun? It is never black 

 

Was this car painted with Vantablack???

Eyeglasses from this pilot in this game are more black and depth in color compared to the whole plane skin. The same you can see in the screenshot from the Ar 234 B-2 with pilot. I used this screenshot just to show it better

 

 

Take a closer look at the plane skin colors below. The plane camo colors are rich and have depth + black is black and when the distance increase the plane camo colors start to fade just because the sun light up their colors. For me the 234 cockpit braces not look black enough from close and when you see how depth black pilots eyeglasses are in this game from near and far then it is valid to ask what happen with the black color on planes???

 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Livai