Thanks N20 Krispy, but why not posted more obviously ?

[HagarTheHorrible]

Looking forward to this talk, but I’m surprised that I had to stumble across it, buried at the end of a post, rather than in it’s own thread, out and proud.

 

“Something like this event WW1 Aviation Heritage Trust event in Britain might have some information to add. They're not flying in a true combat environment, but some of the basic handling observations might have something to add. And maybe it would be a venue to ask questions of the pilots.”

 

https://ww1aviationheritagetrust.co.uk/index.php/2021/10/15/the-boys-are-back-ww1-fighters-compared/

[ST_Catchov]

Good catch Horrible. The Krispy Duck always provides valuable insights without big noting himself. An admirable trait. I do doubt however that the gentlemen on the zoom discussion will talk about the Camel's butterfly wings or the gutless Se5a and instead focus on the false legend that neither of these aircraft had such traits.

[Zooropa_Fly]

"the Nieuport 28 was enjoyable to fly but was far from outstanding in the performance stakes and plagued by serious design problems."

 

 

Whoever wrote that has simply never been taught the correct turning procedures.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Zooropa_Fly

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

The design flaw could refer to a couple of things - structure designed to mount a single machine gun originally, and then having to add a shelf-mounted gun as an afterthought, structure/design limiting ammunition capacity, or perhaps fabric-structure separation on the top wing. Then there were the on-going issues with the elongated tail structure, which were residual from the Nieuport 24-27 series (necessitating the 24bis). The 28 is an attractive plane but the French passed over it for good reason. The 28 did enjoy the advantage of engine service time over the Spads, and the American mechanics noted how quickly one could service the single valve rotary of the 28 compared to the geared Hisso of the Spad XIII.

 

The Americans, being caught on the back foot when they entered the war, were desperate for serviceable aircraft throughout their involvement. The 28 served as a stop-gap, but even as late as November 1918, the Americans continued to fly SE5as with missing machine guns and struggle to convert allied designs to US production. Such was their situation that it was a make-do type of circumstance.

Edited November 5, 2021 by NO.20_Krispy_Duck

[No.23_Triggers]

Interesting part from that...

...JeanMichel Munn stated that the Albatros was less capable in a manoeuvring dogfight then the Sopwith Camel, Sopwith Pup, and S.E.5a.  
 

[ST_Catchov]

11 hours ago, US93_Larner said:

and S.E.5a.

 

 Maybe JeanMichel and AnP should get together over a few Wodka's and fix the old girl! If that ever happens (?) I'll change my name to Mr Happy. 

[No.23_Triggers]

47 minutes ago, ST_Catchov said:

 

 Maybe JeanMichel and AnP should get together over a few Wodka's and fix the old girl! If that ever happens (?) I'll change my name to Mr Happy. 

They could invite Stu Goldspink along too...he said the same thing in a similar panel the WW1 Aviation Heritage Trust held a while back ?

Edited November 8, 2021 by US93_Larner