On the Road Again...

[CUJO_1970]

5 minutes ago, oc2209 said:

 

I'm ashamed to admit that I'm kind of excited about the 109G-10

 

Don't be. I'd love to have it...a lot of folks would.

 

There are only two German s/e fighter variants to go against all the hordes of Allied fighters with all their bells and whistles - that's why you need all options available to you - and there is still quite a bit left out from the 109 lineup (G10/G14-AS/G6/AS etc)...not to mention the 190A-9/F-9.

 

Bring 'em on!

11 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

More like this.

 

 

I have enough keeping me busy where I won't sweat it too much though. 

 

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[Gambit21]

 

I think the "there's only two German fighter variants" truism is one of the several downfalls of keeping Germany as the Axis force beyond Normandy.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2021 by Gambit21

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I agree that Japan will have to become the Axis adversary sooner or later. We are running out of AC and settings for them to operate in over Europe/Russia. We can do Battle of France and get some older variants of AC we have now. Italy still makes a LOT of sense to me. The Finnish campaign is, realistically, fairly niche. I understand it's obvious importance to that crowd but I don't think it'd be a huge seller outside of that region. BOB would sell like hotcakes bbbuuuuutttttttttttt. There is one more realistic Russian module. But then what? It's either Japan or a Korean expansion. I'd buy Korea but probably not fly it much. Pacific and China Burma have so many expansion possibilities with three fairly distinct timelines. I'm willing to allow the team to take their best educated engineering guesses to get us there regarding rivets and FM's. We argue endlessly about the ones with bonafide documentation already anyway.

 

And give me a flyable Black Cat PBY already

 

Ah to dream, to dream..............

[JimTM]

1 hour ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

I agree that Japan will have to become the Axis adversary sooner or later. We are running out of AC and settings for them to operate in over Europe/Russia. We can do Battle of France and get some older variants of AC we have now. Italy still makes a LOT of sense to me. The Finnish campaign is, realistically, fairly niche. I understand it's obvious importance to that crowd but I don't think it'd be a huge seller outside of that region. BOB would sell like hotcakes bbbuuuuutttttttttttt. There is one more realistic Russian module. But then what? It's either Japan or a Korean expansion. I'd buy Korea but probably not fly it much. Pacific and China Burma have so many expansion possibilities with three fairly distinct timelines. I'm willing to allow the team to take their best educated engineering guesses to get us there regarding rivets and FM's. We argue endlessly about the ones with bonafide documentation already anyway.

 

And give me a flyable Black Cat PBY already

 

Ah to dream, to dream..............

 

Well, there's always Battle of Vietnam. I think Jason's itching to make a B-52.  Maybe he'll get a kickback from the hardware folks who'll sell all those throttles.  

 

Edited November 6, 2021 by JimTM

[oc2209]

2 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

There are only two German s/e fighter variants to go against all the hordes of Allied fighters with all their bells and whistles - that's why you need all options available to you - and there is still quite a bit left out from the 109 lineup (G10/G14-AS/G6/AS etc)...not to mention the 190A-9/F-9.

 

The Berlin/Poland/Whatever '45 scenario that should wrap up the Eastern Front will have space for the two biggest omissions: the G-10 and the A-9.

 

Once that's settled, there's not much reason to backfill with other late 109s because all late war time periods will be effectively covered.

 

While the AS variants would be nice, it's hard to justify releasing them as stand-alone collector planes. Likewise, it's equally difficult to imagine us getting them in the form of free mods (if the relevant planes are already owned).

 

So those might just never happen. But at the very least, the G-10/A-9 are assured I think.

 

1 hour ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

I agree that Japan will have to become the Axis adversary sooner or later.

 

I more than agree.

 

Just replace 'elephant' with 'Zero', and this is how I feel about the Pacific:

 

Spoiler

 

 

[[F.Circus]FrangibleCover]

AS versions of aircraft we already have are a bit of an ask, but the Bf 109G-1 and G-5 start off as the 2 and 6 with crap rear visibility and can then be modified with either the high altitude supercharged engines or GM-1 injection for higher boost levels at high altitude. Two differences from the G-6 and G-2 we already have has been sufficient to justify the G-4, G-6/late and G-14, so why not?

[Ribbon]

 

On his way home!

[Noisemaker]

25 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

 

On his way home!

Award for the laziest photoshop of the year goes to... 

[CUJO_1970]

6 hours ago, [F.Circus]FrangibleCover said:

AS versions of aircraft we already have are a bit of an ask, but the Bf 109G-1 and G-5 start off as the 2 and 6 with crap rear visibility and can then be modified with either the high altitude supercharged engines or GM-1 injection for higher boost levels at high altitude. Two differences from the G-6 and G-2 we already have has been sufficient to justify the G-4, G-6/late and G-14, so why not?

 

/AS 109s comprised half the 109 force during Bodenplatte, they also had a large presence over Normandy prior to that.

 

They are needed as bread and water. ?

[Guest deleted@191198]

...P-51D-30, Spitfire's (VII, VIII and...), P-47D's, I not fan allied plane, but I am for justice, yes, I m strange, sry my English.

Edited November 6, 2021 by startzug1101

[Ribbon]

2 hours ago, Noisemaker said:

Award for the laziest photoshop of the year goes to... 

I also do skins for my sqdn?

[Rjel]

1 hour ago, startzug1101 said:

...P-51D-30, Spitfire's (VII, VIII and...), P-47D's, I not fan allied plane, but I am for justice, yes, I m strange, sry my English.

As much as I love the P-51D I don't think the -30 would bring much more to the table beyond zero length rocket launchers and tail radar as standard equipment. Tail radar would be kind of cool if it was actually implemented. There wouldn't be any performance increase.

 

However, I would love to see a P-47M added as a late war option. The P-51H would be cool too but too many would cry foul as it didn't see combat. Neither did it ever leave the Zone of Interior during WWII.

Edited November 6, 2021 by Rjel
Clarity. Maybe.

[sevenless]

6 minutes ago, Rjel said:

However, I would love to see a P-47M added as a late war option. 

 

This! ?

[Mtnbiker1998]

48 minutes ago, Rjel said:

As much as I love the P-51D I don't think the -30 would bring much more to the table beyond zero length rocket launchers and tail radar as standard equipment. Tail radar would be kind of cool if it was actually implemented. There wouldn't be any performance increase.

 

However, I would love to see a P-47M added as a late war option. The P-51H would be cool too but too many would cry foul as it didn't see combat. Neither did it ever leave the Zone of Interior during WWII.

I'd rather see an earlier Mustang like a D-5, it'd fill the gap a bit better than the B/D-15 we have now.

 

P-47M though, that might be fun

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I'm down for an M series to give the Jug drivers some love in the dogfighting arena. Definitely as a premium. Throw in the Ta-152 H and C while you are at it. That would probably bring some cash to the table for Jason and the team.

 

Dammit, just do the Fall of the Reich module and include the La-7, IL 10, and whatever is still leftover for May 1945. TAKE MUH MUNEH!!!!!

 

*Just remember I have the copyright on BoFoR - Battle of the Fall Of the Reich.

[BMA_FlyingShark]

2 minutes ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

whatever is still leftover for May 1945

Yak 3 maybe too?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

11 minutes ago, FlyingShark said:

Yak 3 maybe too?

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

Definitely, G10 and 190 A9 for us bad guys too. We almost have a full planeset now. Need an attacker or bomber for both sides. A-26 and or Beaufighter for the good guys.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

And meanwhile we still don't know where Jason is or what he's researching.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I think he's just researching the sand between his toes on a well deserved holiday.

[oc2209]

14 hours ago, [F.Circus]FrangibleCover said:

AS versions of aircraft we already have are a bit of an ask, but the Bf 109G-1 and G-5 start off as the 2 and 6 with crap rear visibility and can then be modified with either the high altitude supercharged engines or GM-1 injection for higher boost levels at high altitude. Two differences from the G-6 and G-2 we already have has been sufficient to justify the G-4, G-6/late and G-14, so why not?

 

But what I'm wondering is, would the AS variants give us significant performance differences at the typical (low) altitudes we fight in? This includes both multiplayer and single.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the MW-50 pretty much give us all we need for the present game meta? If 4-engine bomber interceptions at +20k feet become feasible, then the lack of AS would definitely be a problem. But until then, is it an issue?

 

3 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

I'm down for an M series to give the Jug drivers some love in the dogfighting arena. Definitely as a premium. Throw in the Ta-152 H and C while you are at it. That would probably bring some cash to the table for Jason and the team.

 

Dammit, just do the Fall of the Reich module and include the La-7, IL 10, and whatever is still leftover for May 1945. TAKE MUH MUNEH!!!!!

 

I want the C much more than the H (again, hi-alt stuff is pretty useless to us), but is there enough tech data to accurately recreate the C? And is there any verifiable operational history of it? I think the H is valid in those respects, but the C is a bit of a stretch.

 

As for the IL-10, I also want that, but it's another one of those 'did it actually see combat more than a few weeks before the war's end?' situations.

 

2 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

I think he's just researching the sand between his toes on a well deserved holiday.

 

Assuming our creepy stalker calculations are anywhere close to correct, going by where we think Jason is, the only sand between his toes right now would be cigarette ash from the parking lot of whatever landlocked motel he's staying in.

[sevenless]

2 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

And meanwhile we still don't know where Jason is or what he's researching.

 

It is just one huge deception to get these two into the game. Be sure ... ?

 

[Jason_Williams]

Hey guys,

 

Ok my mission has been accomplished or more accurately finished, what comes of it is not set in stone, so I'll close this thread to keep speculation and rumors to a minimum. I'll post what I was up to in my Briefing Room and Officer's Club soon. This thread was just a fun way to show that we work hard to get information for possible new content and to keep me motivated to reach my goal. These kinds of trips don't always yield gold for us, but it's fun doing hands on research when possible and it gets me out of the office. 

 

Some of you asked questions about my ride. The bottom line is I like my Kia Telluride. In this era of COVID, chip shortages and inflation I was lucky to score one, but I had to wait all summer to get it and I paid too much for it honestly. I splurged and bought the SX with all the options available. I got the Dark Moss paint which looks like OD green to me so I thought it was kinda mean and military looking. It's a popular vehicle at the moment. I plan to drive it a lot as my daily driver and its done terrific on this drive so far. No problems. I looked at other vehicles like Grand Wagoneers, Palisades, Explorers and others, but decided to go with the Telluride because it checked all my boxes and was actually available and has a great warranty. Plus, it is assembled in Georgia with a large amount of American made parts even if it a Korean brand. Even American makes are not always made in the USA. 

 

I have always lived out West in nice weather, so driving across America and seeing the heartland and different cities I would otherwise never visit is a fun time for me. Putting an air museum or two on the itinerary adds to the fun.  I'm not really adept at driving in snowy or icy conditions or in heavy fog. I definitely got to bone up on my driving skills on this trip. Thanks to all for indulging me in this thread. 

 

 

Jason