Breguet14 - opinions?

[jollyjack]

Just took the new Breguet baby for a spin ... slow and deadly, especially for almost carpet bombing with the amount of them. Seems the top lewis gun is auto targetting almost, but it must be the gunner. Latter has a nice lookout window. Attached a quick and dirty done mission for your first test flight ..

Breguet14 tester v1a.zip

Edited October 30, 2021 by jollyjack

[SYN_Vander]

Haven't flown it much, but I do appreciate the high quality of modeling of the airframe and cockpit! In RoF it didn't look all that great. I also love the 'improvised' trim functionality. Some more planes (hint: Fokker Dr1) could do with that!

Edited October 30, 2021 by SYN_Vander

[J2_Trupobaw]

What trim functionality (!)?

[SYN_Vander]

24 minutes ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

What trim functionality (!)?

 

A simple mechanism to adjust stick force by rotating a dial, check the cockpit. You can use your trim buttons to operate this. Could be field mod, I'm not sure.

 

Edited October 30, 2021 by SYN_Vander

[Swing]

He is just fantastic ... i'm in love ... its bomb load is amazing ... i haven't tried it online (it's not on the servers yet) but it's also supposed to be great resistant thanks to its design in Duralunim ... the profile of its low wing which changes according to the speed is also interesting ...

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

What trim functionality (!)?

 

It's one of the new features added to the plane, along with adjustable fuel mixture and new cockpit details.

[DD_Arthur]

The fastest, toughest, most manoeuverable gunship in the game.  Just like RoF.

 

 

[PaulTheSalty]

It’s like flying a truck. I love it so much it almost makes me want to cheat on the Bristol.

[mrjp990]

The Baguette seems to be my favorite Recon plane for PWCGFC.. Only issue is, I cant seem to find the fuel gauge.

[Ghost666]

[Cynic_Al]

23 hours ago, LukeFF said:

It's one of the new features added to the plane, along with adjustable fuel mixture

 

There's nothing quite like getting new features; especially those that should have been there all the time.

[LukeFF]

23 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said:

There's nothing quite like getting new features; especially those that should have been there all the time.

 

You, of all people, someone who's been around here and the ROF forum for ages now, should know that trying to find good, reliable data on aircraft that flew over 100 years ago isn't always easy to find. 

[J2_Trupobaw]

36 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

There's nothing quite like getting new features; especially those that should have been there all the time.

Breguet was an early experiment with making a two-seater work in RoF, wasn't it?

[=IRFC=Gascan]

As I recall, the Breguet and the DFW started as AI only, and were later converted to allow us to fly them.

[Cynic_Al]

1 hour ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

Breguet was an early experiment with making a two-seater work in RoF, wasn't it?

 

At no time was I notified of that, but even if true I don't see your point.

[Cynic_Al]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

You, of all people, someone who's been around here and the ROF forum for ages now, should know that trying to find good, reliable data on aircraft that flew over 100 years ago isn't always easy to find. 

 

To take the case of the trimming control, that was rendered in the RoF version along with its linkage but was not operable.  Availability of data could not have been an issue.

[LukeFF]

6 hours ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

Breguet was an early experiment with making a two-seater work in RoF, wasn't it?

 

5 hours ago, gascan said:

As I recall, the Breguet and the DFW started as AI only, and were later converted to allow us to fly them?

 

Yes, they were both non-flyable when they were first added to the game.

[jollyjack]

On 10/31/2021 at 2:56 AM, mrjp990 said:

The Baguette seems to be my favorite Recon plane for PWCGFC.. Only issue is, I cant seem to find the fuel gauge.

 

Now i wonder if it already existed in 1914 ... but lets face it, our own Patrick Wonder can probably wing it in with update 22.3.0:

 

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Where's the friggin' blip-switch?:

 

On 10/31/2021 at 4:57 AM, Ghost666 said:

Edited November 1, 2021 by jollyjack

[Ghost666]

21 minutes ago, jollyjack said:

Where's the friggin' blip-switch?:

Only on planes with rotary engines IIRC.

[Cynic_Al]

On 10/30/2021 at 5:01 PM, LukeFF said:

It's one of the new features added to the plane, along with adjustable fuel mixture

 

Then just as a matter of academic interest, where is the mixture control in the cockpit?

[Ghost666]

31 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

Then just as a matter of academic interest, where is the mixture control in the cockpit?

Right side of cockpit in the same fixture as the throttle.

[Cynic_Al]

10 hours ago, Ghost666 said:

Right side of cockpit in the same fixture as the throttle.

 

When you say 'Right' I presume you mean 'correct'.  I managed to spot it on Vander's screenshot.

[SYN_Vander]

2 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

When you say 'Right' I presume you mean 'correct'.  I managed to spot it on Vander's screenshot.

 

Or dyslectic? My wife has that and will shout 'Left!' when she means 'Right'. Great fun whilst driving a car and you have to make a split second decision! 

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

On 10/30/2021 at 6:16 PM, PaulTheSalty said:

It’s like flying a truck. I love it so much it almost makes me want to cheat on the Bristol.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[PaulTheSalty]

2 hours ago, NO.20_W_M_Thomson said:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I did say almost!

[mrjp990]

On 11/1/2021 at 11:14 AM, jollyjack said:

 

Now i wonder if it already existed in 1914 ... but lets face it, our own Patrick Wonder can probably wing it in with update 22.3.0:

 

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Where's the friggin' blip-switch?:

 

Thanks, homie!

[Ghost666]

On 11/2/2021 at 8:35 AM, Cynic_Al said:

 

When you say 'Right' I presume you mean 'correct'.  I managed to spot it on Vander's screenshot.

No, I meant Left. But I was born a long long time ago, 1960. And back then in the suburban society of the middle class it would not be right to be left handed. So as a left handed baby I slowly learned to use my right hand. And still after 60+ years I still get things messed up every now and then. But on the other hand I can shoot a gun with both hands.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Well, the Breguet isn't exactly fast, or sporty handling, but it can carry a fair few bombs.  On the whole I wouldn't take it if a Bristol was available.  The Bristol remains the best all around plane in the WW1 part of the Great Battles series.

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

On 11/6/2021 at 7:25 AM, BlitzPig_EL said:

Well, the Breguet isn't exactly fast, or sporty handling, but it can carry a fair few bombs.  On the whole I wouldn't take it if a Bristol was available.  The Bristol remains the best all around plane in the WW1 part of the Great Battles series.

 I haven't taken the Brequet out yet, I'll wait until there's no Bristol's around to see me climb into another lady. ? Might be a good idea if you can carry a bigger load to take a Bristol as escort. Jeeshhhhhh don't ban me for this, just comes out like that. 

[YoYo]

First flight Today, wow, it has.... trim  !!!

btw. small bug with gunsight (the first rod is in the air, not on fuselage).

[US41_Low]

On 10/31/2021 at 11:48 AM, LukeFF said:

 

You, of all people, someone who's been around here and the ROF forum for ages now, should know that trying to find good, reliable data on aircraft that flew over 100 years ago isn't always easy to find. 

Little salty aren’t you

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

I think I'll try the Breguet in the next MP mission. I had converted over to the DH4 because it was an excellent bomber, but the DM issues that cropped up have sent me off for alternatives for the time being. So on to the Breguet.

Edited November 15, 2021 by NO.20_Krispy_Duck

[US103_Baer]

13 hours ago, NO.20_Krispy_Duck said:

I think I'll try the Breguet in the next MP mission. I had converted over to the DH4 because it was an excellent bomber, but the DM issues that cropped up have sent me off for alternatives for the time being. So on to the Breguet.

Haven't tried online,  but in messing around I much prefer the Breguet over the DH4.

Visibility, bomb load, climb.  Suspect it maneuvers and holds energy better too.

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

I messed around with it some more last night. It absorbs damage from the ground guns better than the DH4 in its current state. The bomb load is very good and has several options. The view for strafing is not as good as the Bristol or even the DH4 - kind of a letter slot view for strafing with the front MG. It's fairly powerful and seems to have a good cruise speed both with a bomb load and clean. The rear gunner has the dual Lewis turret, which is a must with the damage model on the enemy fighters being what it is. It turns fairly well for a medium-sized bomber. I'm somewhat optimistic that it will make a good companion to the Bristol or with paired with a fighter for escort. It does not replace the Bristol as a fighter-bomber hybrid as it is more of a pure bomber. But the load hauling and durability make me optimistic it could be useful. It also has a pretty strong fuel capacity, so in theory it would have excellent range. We don't really use the high-range capability in the game so much. It seems to me a good option for a deep strike type aircraft with a heavy bombload. Using the slip indicator as a guide, it seems to be very yaw stable, both cruising and in a dive. I still have no idea how the concept of alternative materials, as used in the Breguet translates into the game DM. I guess we'll see.

Edited November 17, 2021 by NO.20_Krispy_Duck