UV2 back seat and other non accessible seats

[lwalter]

Is there a way to access the UV2 backseat?

i noticed that on some bombers, not all positions were accessible either. I think in particular the bomber position, but I’d guess it’s because there’s a generic bombsight for it ?

[ilmavoimat]

You can only access the back seat if you select the gunner's armament.

[J37_Spyboy]

Left ctrl + C to change position iirc.

[Charlo-VR]

I think only the A20 has a position that is inaccessible, the bombardier seat. You also can't occupy the JU-52 co-pilot seat.

[Avimimus]

45 minutes ago, Charlo-VR said:

I think only the A20 has a position that is inaccessible, the bombardier seat. You also can't occupy the JU-52 co-pilot seat.

 

Yeah, I've always wanted to be able to sit in the Ju-52 co-pilot seat.

[gimpy117]

On 10/19/2021 at 2:02 PM, Charlo-VR said:

I think only the A20 has a position that is inaccessible, the bombardier seat. You also can't occupy the JU-52 co-pilot seat.

A 20 also appears to have provisions for the gunner to fly the plane. 

[LukeFF]

2 minutes ago, gimpy117 said:

A 20 also appears to have provisions for the gunner to fly the plane. 

 

Yes, it does, as do many of the two-seater WWI planes. 

[Sandmarken]

On 10/19/2021 at 8:48 PM, Avimimus said:

 

Yeah, I've always wanted to be able to sit in the Ju-52 co-pilot seat.

With vr and a big room you can actually just get up and move to the co-pilot seat. You can even get in the back and be a passenger ?

[gimpy117]

On 10/20/2021 at 8:18 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, it does, as do many of the two-seater WWI planes. 

I wonder if there's any recorded instances of the gunner landing the plane 

[ZachariasX]

2 hours ago, gimpy117 said:

I wonder if there's any recorded instances of the gunner landing the plane 

During a night raid on April 23rd, 1943, the 25 year old pilot Mladshiy Leytenant Yevdokina „Dusya“ Nosal of 46 GNBAP (the „Night Witches“) in her 345th(!) bombing mission was shot and killed by Leutnant Wolf-Udo Ettel (II./JG3) flying his Bf-109 the sky near Novorossiysk. The navigator, 23 year old Mladshiy Leytenant Glafira „Ira“ Kashirina, both had to reach over and pull back the corpse of her dead pilot and fly and land the damaged aircraft. As Dusya was killed, her body lumped forward, blocking the stick in a forward position, sending the U-2 in a steep dive from which Ira had to recover by standing up and reaching all the way down in the front cockpit to pull up the dead body of her pilot. Then she flew back to home base while holding her dead comrade back upright in the seat and landed the aircraft. Dusya was poshumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, Ira was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.

Udo Kettel, aged 22, flew home to Anapa, thinking he bagged his 86th victory. Given who he killed, he might be forgiven this slight overclaim. He was killed just about three months later by ground fire over Sicilly, on July 17th, 1943. His final tally was 124 victories.

Ira was shot down and killed three months later by Oberfeldwebel Josef Kociok from 10.(Nacht)/ZG.1.

 

Courtesy of Christer Bergström, „Black Cross / Red Star Vol.5“. These are great books. 

[gimpy117]

On 10/24/2021 at 3:22 AM, ZachariasX said:

During a night raid on April 23rd, 1943, the 25 year old pilot Mladshiy Leytenant Yevdokina „Dusya“ Nosal of 46 GNBAP (the „Night Witches“) in her 345th(!) bombing mission was shot and killed by Leutnant Wolf-Udo Ettel (II./JG3) flying his Bf-109 the sky near Novorossiysk. The navigator, 23 year old Mladshiy Leytenant Glafira „Ira“ Kashirina, both had to reach over and pull back the corpse of her dead pilot and fly and land the damaged aircraft. As Dusya was killed, her body lumped forward, blocking the stick in a forward position, sending the U-2 in a steep dive from which Ira had to recover by standing up and reaching all the way down in the front cockpit to pull up the dead body of her pilot. Then she flew back to home base while holding her dead comrade back upright in the seat and landed the aircraft. Dusya was poshumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, Ira was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.

Udo Kettel, aged 22, flew home to Anapa, thinking he bagged his 86th victory. Given who he killed, he might be forgiven this slight overclaim. He was killed just about three months later by ground fire over Sicilly, on July 17th, 1943. His final tally was 124 victories.

Ira was shot down and killed three months later by Oberfeldwebel Josef Kociok from 10.(Nacht)/ZG.1.

 

Courtesy of Christer Bergström, „Black Cross / Red Star Vol.5“. These are great books. 

i have to say, the night witches were pretty metal 

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, gimpy117 said:

i have to say, the night witches were pretty metal 

 

Pretty metal?

[AndyJWest]

48 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Pretty metal?

 

I think that's young-uns slang for something like 'real cool cats, daddy-o'. ?

[ShamrockOneFive]

10 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

 

I think that's young-uns slang for something like 'real cool cats, daddy-o'. ?

 

They were like, totally rad

[Diggun]

10 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

I think that's young-uns slang for something like 'real cool cats, daddy-o'. ?

Whizz-bang, wizard, spiffing, simply topper, don'tcherknow?

[lwalter]

On 10/21/2021 at 11:08 AM, Sandmarken said:

With vr and a big room you can actually just get up and move to the co-pilot seat. You can even get in the back and be a passenger ?

Is it only possible in VR?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

6 minutes ago, lwalter said:

Is it only possible in VR?

In the UV2 you can just switch to the back seat (as long as you select the gunner modification), I don't really understand what the problem is?

[Sandmarken]

6 minutes ago, lwalter said:

Is it only possible in VR?

Its possible because you are able to move physicaly to the co pilot seat so unless you can move like thst with buttons i think you need vr. I never play il2 non vr so dont know if you can.

[lwalter]

15 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

In the UV2 you can just switch to the back seat (as long as you select the gunner modification), I don't really understand what the problem is?

I was not asking about UV2. Answer for this was clear. 
I was asking about moving around in the plane as @Sandmarken explained he could do in VR.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

20 minutes ago, lwalter said:

I was not asking about UV2. Answer for this was clear. 
I was asking about moving around in the plane as @Sandmarken explained he could do in VR.

Alright, in that case I misunderstood you, but you might want to post something to say that you understand it, or at least give thanks to the person who answered it (the heart on the bottom right). Otherwise, how are we to know that you've understood?

 

There are certain keys you can use to move a bit around the plane (I'm not in-game right now so I can't check what they're called; however they shouldn't be too hard to find). Not sure how far you can move. If it doesn't work for non-VR, then I'm afraid there's no way to do it.

[lwalter]

32 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Alright, in that case I misunderstood you, but you might want to post something to say that you understand it, or at least give thanks to the person who answered it (the heart on the bottom right). Otherwise, how are we to know that you've understood?

Yes you’re right. My bad. I usually give thanks for all the answers at the end. I was just having this one more question about wandering around big planes like bombers. 
BTW I didn’t know about this icon in the bottom right for giving thanks. Thanks for telling me!

 

 

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, lwalter said:

I was just having this one more question about wandering around big planes like bombers. 

 

Careful.  Sometimes you can meet the strangest people.....

 

 

[Gambit21]

15 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

 

I think that's young-uns slang for something like 'real cool cats, daddy-o'. ?

 

Hmmm...

 

”Those Navy Seals are pretty metal”

 

I’m not feeling it.

The are pretty outa sight though!

[Noisemaker]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Hmmm...

 

”Those Navy Seals are pretty metal”

 

I’m not feeling it.

The are pretty outa sight though!

OK Boomer. 

[Gambit21]

2 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

OK Boomer. 

 

Nah...that's my parents.

[Noisemaker]

Just now, Gambit21 said:

 

Nah...that's my parents.

Mine, too.  Just trying to look cool for the kids.

 

[javelina]

On 10/19/2021 at 11:48 AM, Avimimus said:

 

Yeah, I've always wanted to be able to sit in the Ju-52 co-pilot seat.

 

On 10/21/2021 at 2:08 AM, Sandmarken said:

With vr and a big room you can actually just get up and move to the co-pilot seat. You can even get in the back and be a passenger ?

I always wanted to be a VR passenger in a Tante Ju....

 

 

?

[Noisemaker]

8 minutes ago, javelina said:

 

I always wanted to be a VR passenger in a Tante Ju....

 

 

?

Yeah, me too, but I hear the in-flight meals suck.