Developer Diary 296 - Discussion

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Maybe it'll be an early P 40?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[[CPT]milopugdog]

I know everybody's getting hyped, and I don't want to be a downer, but some pretty particular language was used in that paragraph.

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There has also been some good news with some research endeavors Jason has working on. If all goes well It may bring a new warbird to our skies. One that many of you have asked for. Stay tuned for more on that.

 

Because I mean, we're all totally reasonable people who have totally never flipped out at the devs and been upset when something doesn't quite pan out how they thought, or when something is removed from a tentative list (Battle of Kuban and TC announcements).

[oc2209]

29 minutes ago, [CPT]milopugdog said:

I know everybody's getting hyped, and I don't want to be a downer, but some pretty particular language was used in that paragraph.

 

Because I mean, we're all totally reasonable people who have totally never flipped out at the devs and been upset when something doesn't quite pan out how they thought, or when something is removed from a tentative list (Battle of Kuban and TC announcements).

 

Of course we're rational people.

 

That's why I firmly believe we're getting this next:

 

 

And anyone who tells me otherwise, I will engage with extreme prejudice for a 6.5 hour debate that will eventually devolve into bitter name calling.

[Diggun]

2 hours ago, FlyingShark said:

early P 40?

My stars, that's just what we need. A more temperamental, lower performing version of that rattling thunderbox! 

 

Now, if you're talking about a later, Packard Merlin powered variant, I'd be reaching for my wallet before you could say 'fancy sitting on my knee for a sunset spin around this towering cumulonimbus, Kate Beckinsale?'. 

[Chief_Mouser]

18 minutes ago, Diggun said:

My stars, that's just what we need. A more temperamental, lower performing version of that rattling thunderbox! 

 

Now, if you're talking about a later, Packard Merlin powered variant, I'd be reaching for my wallet before you could say 'fancy sitting on my knee for a sunset spin around this towering cumulonimbus, Kate Beckinsale?'. 

 

Guess who watched 'Pearl Harbor' last night? ?

[Beebop]

1 minute ago, 216th_Cat said:

Guess who watched 'Pearl Harbor' last night?

The CGI monster?

[Asgar]

18 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

 

Guess who watched 'Pearl Harbor' last night? ?

Josh Hartnett? Thinking back in better times? Seriously where is this dude? He’s such a great actor how come I see him no more? Also I recommend watching Lucky Number Slevin. Fantastic funny and smart movie!

 

and just to stay in topic gib Me 410!

[Diggun]

11 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

'Pearl Harbor' last night?

I didn't, actually. Just thought that the sunset ride was the one uncontestible good idea in that garbage fire of a movie. Well, that and the Luftwaffe letting us use IXe's during the Battle of Britain. Jolly sporting of them

[Mad_Mikhael]

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There has also been some good news with some research endeavors Jason has working on. If all goes well It may bring a new warbird to our skies. One that many of you have asked for. Stay tuned for more on that.

Edited October 18, 2021 by =LG=Mad_Mikhael

[Sandmarken]

Anyone suggesting early spit xi yet? 

Woud maybe not be the most spectacular, but very usefull on the normandy map ? i know atleast i have asked for it before ?

[Asgar]

3 minutes ago, Sandmarken said:

Anyone suggesting early spit xi yet? 

Woud maybe not be the most spectacular, but very usefull on the normandy map ? i know atleast i have asked for it before ?

Has anyone asked for one? ?

[76IAP-Black]

I have asked for a floatplane?

[Sandmarken]

7 minutes ago, Asgar said:

Has anyone asked for one? ?

I have multiple times. ?

[Diggun]

22 minutes ago, Sandmarken said:

Anyone suggesting early spit xi yet? 

I was carefully not suggesting it so as not to jinx it. Pleas gib early IX!

[Docholiday]

On 10/17/2021 at 3:28 PM, DD_Arthur said:

 

Hmmm....outside possibility?

Have “lots of people” asked for a Beaufighter?

It would certainly be a lot more useable than a Zero plus modelling wise it has a single seat cockpit and a gunner/nav position with a single, hand operated MG.

On the other hand, to fit in the time frame for the Normandy and Bodenplatte maps it would really need torpedoes.

 

Question about Jason’s research;

He took a ten thousand mile round trip to the RAF museum at Hendon. I find it hard to believe he only had access to their Tempest......

 

An at Hendon there is a nice  display of a      Beaufighter X   ??

[ITAF_Rani]

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Maybe the new plane will be a FW 190 A7?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[vvuorela]

1 hour ago, FlyingShark said:

Maybe the new plane will be a FW 190 A7?

 

Have a nice day.

 

I think it should be  bf 109 g-8 for interesting photo recon missions. ?

[BMA_FlyingShark]

1 minute ago, vvuorela said:

I think it should be  bf 109 g-8 for interesting photo recon missions.

Or maybe a G12 for training missions?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

Maybe an HS 123, so we get something other than another boring, look alike 109.

[Rjel]

8 hours ago, Asgar said:

Has anyone asked for one? ?

 

7 hours ago, Diggun said:

I was carefully not suggesting it so as not to jinx it. Pleas gib early IX!

 

On 10/15/2021 at 9:36 PM, Rjel said:

I'd be all in for a flyable B-26. It's just a very sleek looking airplane. As of now, it makes more sense in the ETO than does the B-25 as it was used in far larger numbers by the USAAF than was the B-25 by the RAF. Then again, if it is the B-25 then obviously that would be a major step towards the MTO or Pacific. At least in my simple train of thought.

 

While it wouldn't seem to warrant a major announcement (or better yet a tease) like today's, I'd guess on the rounded tail Mk IX Spitfire. Anything to eliminate the vision of that pointy tailed monstrosity of a Spitfire we currently have would be most appreciated.

I did. Four pages ago......

 

I cannot tell you all how it hurts to know that my well thought out posts are either unread or so easily forgotten. But I'm not going to pout about it. Or complain. Or threaten to leave. Nope. I'm going to stay and continue to be a shining example of a good community member. Besides, I have no where else to go.?

Edited October 18, 2021 by Rjel
Added a ​? for clarity.​

[Asgar]

1 hour ago, Rjel said:

 

 

I did. Four pages ago......

 

I cannot tell you all how it hurts to know that my well thought out posts are either unread or so easily forgotten. But I'm not going to pout about it. Or complain. Or threaten to leave. Nope. I'm going to stay and continue to be a shining example of a good community member. Besides, I have no where else to go.?

I meant before this dev diary, I have seen and read your post.

[Rjel]

28 minutes ago, Asgar said:

I meant before this dev diary, I have seen and read your post.

And I thank you sir. Actually I have quite some time ago. I'll have to a search for it.

 

There are several threads but this will work.

 

Edited October 18, 2021 by Rjel

[sevenless]

48 minutes ago, Rjel said:

There are several threads but this will work.

 

Well yeah. It is THE iconic Spitfire of the Normandy campaign. Isn´t it? Would make a brilliant collector, could be used on the BoN and BoBP maps and would fit into 1943 also.

 

Air combat over St Omer (luftwaffeinprofile.se)

 

[Rjel]

21 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

Well yeah. It is THE iconic Spitfire of the Normandy campaign. Isn´t it? Would make a brilliant collector, could be used on the BoN and BoBP maps and would fit into 1943 also.

 

Air combat over St Omer (luftwaffeinprofile.se)

 

It just looks so perfectly proportioned I think.

[Gambit21]

On 10/17/2021 at 8:08 AM, ITAF_Rani said:

Beaufighter fit well in MTO theatre also...

 

Umm...PTO

 

 

[LeLv30_Redwing-]

On 10/18/2021 at 5:07 AM, Jade_Monkey said:

 

To play devil's advocate: The Yak9 and Yak9T were released after Bodenplatte, it didnt make much sense to release ETO planes then either.

I agree. Last two modules (BOBP and BON) are on the western front, so in order to please the Russian community and keep them interested on the series, I'd say mystery plane has red stars on it...but since the devs are sneaky devils, they will please both communities and release the P-36 Kingcobra! 

[DN308]

Or a bubble nosed mosquito 

Whatever, Jason knows how to keep us on our toes 

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Or maybe a Macchi C 200?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[DBFlyguy]

1 hour ago, LeLv30_Redwing said:

I agree. Last two modules (BOBP and BON) are on the western front, so in order to please the Russian community and keep them interested on the series, I'd say mystery plane has red stars on it...but since the devs are sneaky devils, they will please both communities and release the P-36 Kingcobra! 

There's been 6 soviet collector aircraft (with a 7th on the way, Li-2) plus the mass majority of the releases are Eastern Front oriented (BoS, BoM, BoK, TC... most of the official payware and freeware campaigns) .... If the "Russian community" isn't interested by now, they never will be ??

[JG4_Moltke1871]

We all had some days of nice speculations about the new warbird….

I think it’s time to lift the curtain… ?

 

[Strewth]

The latest warbird has been figured out.????

It is actually an easy assessment and given outcome when you look at it:
1. BoN series?
2. Later era of the war.?
3. Easy to manufacture.?
A rare collector plane if ever I saw one.?

AND - - - - - -  I give you - - - - - - Ladies and Gentlemen - - - - - - 

The illustrious - - - - - - BA-349

And here is partial extracts from an article:

 

According to the Smithsonian Air and Space Magazine, the worst plane of the Second World War was a piloted rocket made of wood, that did not have any landing gear. Yep, it's already sounding bad.

The plane was the Bachem Ba 349. The year was 1944, and the Second World War was going badly for the Nazis. By February 1944,
In July 1944, the Luftwaffe was desperate. Many materials, like metals, were in high demand, so they called for tenders asking for a very cheap fighter made of non-essential materials. Its role was to shoot down incoming Allied bombers.
Bachem's Ba 349 was dead simple to make - because it was mostly wood, not metal.

With Himmler's support, the SS ordered 150 of these bizarre wooden rockets.
Within just three months prototypes were ready for testing.

But the plan was that once the rocket was close enough, the pilot would fire a few dozen air-to-air unguided missiles towards the Allied bombers, and then dive steeply away. Once the Ba 349 had dropped down to 4,500 feet, the pilot had to then to fire a bunch of explosive bolts to tear apart the plane in mid-air. If it all worked to plan, the valuable engine would be separated, and a parachute would open to get it back to ground safely. A different parachute for the pilot would help them get down safely too.

Today, a few examples of the Ba 349 still survive in museums - but I think we can all safely agree that it is officially the worst plane of World War II. Possibly even the worst one ever.

[[F.Circus]MoerasGrizzly]

On 10/15/2021 at 7:01 PM, Uufflakke said:

How nice it would be to fly with an I-153 through those clouds!

You already have an i-16 and all the FC biplanes

[ShamrockOneFive]

4 hours ago, Strewth said:

The latest warbird has been figured out.????

It is actually an easy assessment and given outcome when you look at it:
1. BoN series?
2. Later era of the war.?
3. Easy to manufacture.?
A rare collector plane if ever I saw one.?

AND - - - - - -  I give you - - - - - - Ladies and Gentlemen - - - - - - 

The illustrious - - - - - - BA-349

And here is partial extracts from an article:

 

According to the Smithsonian Air and Space Magazine, the worst plane of the Second World War was a piloted rocket made of wood, that did not have any landing gear. Yep, it's already sounding bad.

The plane was the Bachem Ba 349. The year was 1944, and the Second World War was going badly for the Nazis. By February 1944,
In July 1944, the Luftwaffe was desperate. Many materials, like metals, were in high demand, so they called for tenders asking for a very cheap fighter made of non-essential materials. Its role was to shoot down incoming Allied bombers.
Bachem's Ba 349 was dead simple to make - because it was mostly wood, not metal.

With Himmler's support, the SS ordered 150 of these bizarre wooden rockets.
Within just three months prototypes were ready for testing.

But the plan was that once the rocket was close enough, the pilot would fire a few dozen air-to-air unguided missiles towards the Allied bombers, and then dive steeply away. Once the Ba 349 had dropped down to 4,500 feet, the pilot had to then to fire a bunch of explosive bolts to tear apart the plane in mid-air. If it all worked to plan, the valuable engine would be separated, and a parachute would open to get it back to ground safely. A different parachute for the pilot would help them get down safely too.

Today, a few examples of the Ba 349 still survive in museums - but I think we can all safely agree that it is officially the worst plane of World War II. Possibly even the worst one ever.

 

 

I think you win this one ?

 

[Drum]

P40N...

[Strewth]

2 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

 

I think you win this one ?

 

Cheers!

It took some decoding and working out 

But it all started to make sense in the end. ?

I would also like to thank Captain Morgan for sponsoring this assessment ........... ?   

[Livai]

Collector Tanks with rearview mirror installed that would be something, definitely a hit.................?!

 

Bombastic atmosphere when these two supercells merge into one. Can someone fly into them describe how it was, before I can???

 

 

[Vishnu]

Ooooooo….maybe it’s the Do-17!??  Skweee!!!

 

Already at the beginning of the Second World War the Do 17M was replaced by the Do 17Z, but the reconnaissance bomber Do 17P-1 was used in the long-range reconnaissance groups for several years.
On 21 June 1941, a considerable number of Do 17Ps were still in use in the long-range reconnaissance groups on the Eastern Front to support Operation Barbarossa.

 

 

[LukeFF]

It's probably going to be the B-25 C/D - it's been by far the most requested Allied medium bomber, and it's a great fit for Normandy, Rhineland, and probably the Kuban as well.

10 hours ago, Vishnu said:

Ooooooo….maybe it’s the Do-17!??  Skweee!!!

 

Already at the beginning of the Second World War the Do 17M was replaced by the Do 17Z, but the reconnaissance bomber Do 17P-1 was used in the long-range reconnaissance groups for several years.
On 21 June 1941, a considerable number of Do 17Ps were still in use in the long-range reconnaissance groups on the Eastern Front to support Operation Barbarossa.

 

 

 

Do-17 internal references are extremely difficult to find. 

[Asgar]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

It's probably going to be the B-25 C/D - it's been by far the most requested Allied medium bomber, and it's a great fit for Normandy, Rhineland, and probably the Kuban as well.

 

Do-17 internal references are extremely difficult to find. 

Who wants axis planes anyways? ?