Personal aircraft visibility in clouds

[357th_Esco]

We have the graphical effects of condensation on the canopy when flying thur clouds to help give a sense of flying thru them. Is it possible to have rushing cloud vapor effects which obscure your aircraft from your point of view in the cockpit?  The thicker the cloud the less of your aircraft you see outside of the canopy. It would look amazing in addition to the droplets and the new clouds coming! Clearly seeing my aircraft when flying thru thick clouds doesn’t seem right and it does not help with immersion. 
 

https://youtu.be/OiRt1WbrRc8

Edited October 13, 2021 by VBF-12_Esco

[Pict]

According to that video, the aircraft is a Boeing 787 Dreamliner, which has a massive wingspan when compared to the aircraft we have here.

 

Wingspan comparison

Boeing 787 Dreamliner   60.12 m (197 ft 3 in)

Ju-88                               20 m (65 ft 7 in)

Yak-1B                              10.0 m 10 in (32 ft)

 

At a glance we can see that the Boeing 787 Dreamliner has a wingspan 3 times the size of an average twin engined bomber and 6 times the size of a fighter.

 

It's not easy to say with much accuracy, but it looks to me like there is always at least one third or more of the wing showing in the video.

 

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Not saying that extra effects like this wound't be great and help immersion. They might even be doing them with the new clouds that have been show. Just to point out the huge difference in scale.

Edited October 13, 2021 by Pict

[357th_Esco]

I understand the video is a jet liner but I have flown Diamond Star DA-40 with a 40ft wingspan in IFR, if the cloud is thick enough you can lose sight of your wing wether it’s for a split second or more it depends on the amount of vapor present. Ask any pilot who has flown in thick clouds if this happens. 

 

Most people haven’t flown a small plane in IFR conditions, but they have seen the same effect if they have drove their car in thick fog. Sometimes you can’t see anything 15ft in front of you.

 

It’s hard to find and good small aircraft wing videos but here is another jet with a closer look towards the wing root.

 

 

Edited October 13, 2021 by VBF-12_Esco

[Pict]

Yeah fair enough, like I said already I just wanted to point out the very large scale difference. Mabey try a video of a much smaller plane?

 

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These days you don't need to fly or drive or even have cloud or fog to not see past the end of you nose. Just try one of those stupid masks people seem to think are of some value when your wearing a pair of glasses or sunnies and they'll steam up in a heart beat...one breath even 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

Well, they're working on new clouds as we speak and from the information they've given, it looks as if they're putting a lot of effort into them. I think it's safe to say that if it's possible to implement this, they will, and that if they won't implement it then there are good reasons not to.

[ZachariasX]

I hope they do. So far no flight sim models the visibility in clouds correctly, as in external view you should not see the aircraft at all in an average cloud, especially cumulus clouds. In the real world, visibility shrinks often enough to one or two meters depending on cloud type, basically in a cumulus you shouldn‘t be surprised not seeing as far out as the engine nacelles in twins.

[[CPT]Crunch]

Lets hope they do the shadows from the aircraft on the clouds, that is one sweet thing to watch IRL.

[Charlo-VR]

55 minutes ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Lets hope they do the shadows from the aircraft on the clouds, that is one sweet thing to watch IRL.

That sure is! It’s also really exciting when you get to skydive through patchy clouds and get to watch your shadow race across a cloud and meet you as you enter that cloud - a rare and super cool experience, since we never jump through clouds, only areas of decreased visibility ?

 

Back on topic, I am very excited for the new cloud technology we keep getting glimpses of!